"Pimping"

[stercel2007]

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What do you guys think about learning technique? Also, at what schools is it common during the first 2 years?

 

[Mumpu]

I'm going to be in the minority, but I actually like pimping. I learn exceptionally well from it (much better than books or lectures) and I think it's very fun. Then again, I'm fairly hard to pimp. 😛

Unfortunately, whiny fragile medical students and their giant egos made pimping unpopular because it became viewed as medical student abuse.

 

[Stinger86]

Well, there are really two kinds of pimping. There's the kind where the questions asked are relevant to patient care, and then there's the kind where the questions are ******ed, not related to patient care, and are designed to be missed.

The kind or kinds used by attendings and residents, of course, depends on the individual doing the asking, but if the questions are related to patient care and practical medicine (no matter how difficult or abstract they may be) then I'm all for it. It's valuable education and sometimes a worthy challenge to boot.

That being said, I absolutely hate attendings that base their pimping on questions dealing with subject matter that's, in effect, useless and impractical. How is that supposed to teach you anything but humility? And who needs more humility?! Medicine by its very nature teaches that all the time.

 

[felipe5]

What do you guys think about learning technique? Also, at what schools is it common during the first 2 years?

Well, I think it depends not necessarily on the school per say, but on the actual physicians that you will encounter. I don't think that the big-wigs at school X make it part of their actual curriculum. Most schools lets you have contact with physicians in one way or another your first and second years (through preceptors, ER visits, mission trips, etc etc), and obviously here's where the pimping could occur. In my experiences at the ER and with my preceptor, I get pimped quite often, and since none of the doc's that have pimped me are @ssholes, I don't think its all too bad, especially (as stated above) if the questions are relevant to what you are presently seeing or learning in class. I do think it can be good for ya

ask me again when I get into my rotations

 

[MeowMix]

My anatomy lab partners and I are practicing so we can learn to execute this important skill with flair and style. We play "doctor" while we are dissecting - one person gets to be the attending, one the resident, one the med student, and one the premed.

 

[DOtobe]

I'm going to be in the minority, but I actually like pimping. I learn exceptionally well from it (much better than books or lectures) and I think it's very fun. Then again, I'm fairly hard to pimp. 😛

Unfortunately, whiny fragile medical students and their giant egos made pimping unpopular because it became viewed as medical student abuse.

I agree - I learn better by being pimped. I did not learn nearly as much on the rotations that I was spoon-fed all the information. Pimping makes me think, and once you are pimped on something and you don't know it you won't forget it!

But I've been lucky to have non-malignant pimping so far in my clinical years. I haven't had any attendings tell me "you're such a *****" or anything like that if I missed a pimp question.

 

[aphistis]

...Who needs more humility?! Medicine by its very nature teaches that all the time.

Then y'all must have some slow learners, particularly in the surgical specialties. 😉

 

[ddmo]

Got pimp slapped today like a $2 hooker, but I bet I won't miss that question again.

 

[vikaskoth]

what is pimping, and if it is gettin grilled by attendings, what does that have to do with the word pimp

 

[ddmo]

what is pimping, and if it is gettin grilled by attendings, what does that have to do with the word pimp

here is a link to a piece in JAMA on The Art of Pimping

 

[SaltySqueegee]

Are we then saying that we should receive a minimum number of hours of training in pimping/being pimped during our medical education?

 

[Scott_L]

If you like being PIMPed, you should look at the books in the Recall Series. They are Q&A and allow you to pimp yourself.

 

[macdown]

I think pimping is an important learning tool and as others have stated, it really enforces the material. I really can't stand when people whine about being pimped.

 

[AF_PedsBoy]

I agree - pimping definitely made me learn a lot and attendings can hand you some clinical pearls that may not be found in a book. Then again there's @sshole pimping which I got from a delightful surgical chief resident who was the biggest dickhead - he'd sit there and ask you tough questions in an exasperated tone of voice until you inevitably got to one you didn't know (whether it be the first or the fifth). Then when the attending who was operating away said, "Well, are you going to tell him the answer?" The chief said, "No, if he doesn't know the answer I'm not going to tell him it." In other words, there was absolutely no teaching intended, it was just an ego booster for said pimper. Gee thanks - I didn't know that someone seven years ahead of me in their training would know more than I did.

 

[TheDudeabides]

Got pimp slapped today like a $2 hooker, but I bet I won't miss that question again.

everone knows pimpin' aint easy 😎