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How does UPMC rank?

 

[kidmd44]

UPMC is an awesome program. It has the history, the caseload, the faculty, the subspecialties, and the perks. Moreover, Pittsburgh is an affordable city, especially when compared to Boston, Baltimore, New York, etc. The residents are incredibly happy and the faculty seem to be too. Take a look at their website and download the little movie presented by Dr. Metro, the program director. This video is very informative and will give you a flavor of the program.

Best of luck!

 

[chicamedica]

Go Steelerz!!!!

 

[ThinkFast007]

10-14 in the 3rd boys....

I think Seatle might actually pull through, that freakin interception at the 3 yrd line will be costly for the steelers.

 

[Trisomy13]

awesome.

the whole freakin North Side of Pittsburgh was screaming when they won. 😀

 

[DrRobert]

Should we expect riots?

 

[Trisomy13]

i doubt riots. it's no fun to tip and burn a horse and buggy.

 

[ThinkFast007]

gotta hand it to the steelers...they proved themselves and maintained what everyone else thought was going to happen.

Trisomy i hope your celebrating if your in pitts. I know i would be. shoot...neither one of my teams one and i've been throwing back a few all day long

 

[maude eh]

It seems to be a good program training wise. Im just curious to see where it ranks reputation wise...top 20?

UPMC is an awesome program. It has the history, the caseload, the faculty, the subspecialties, and the perks. Moreover, Pittsburgh is an affordable city, especially when compared to Boston, Baltimore, New York, etc. The residents are incredibly happy and the faculty seem to be too. Take a look at their website and download the little movie presented by Dr. Metro, the program director. This video is very informative and will give you a flavor of the program.

Best of luck!

 

[Steel_City]

gotta hand it to the steelers...they proved themselves and maintained what everyone else thought was going to happen.

Trisomy i hope your celebrating if your in pitts. I know i would be. shoot...neither one of my teams one and i've been throwing back a few all day long

Just wanted to let you know that you are using "one" in the wrong context. When you refer to a team as "winning" the correct spelling is "won." Looks like it's back to the thrid grade for you my friend. Even us DOs know that one. 😀

Pittsburgh Steelers 2006 Superbowl Champions...Do it...Do it

 

[chicamedica]

10-14 in the 3rd boys....

I think Seatle might actually pull through, that freakin interception at the 3 yrd line will be costly for the steelers.

Maybe you're doing this on purpose just to make fun of me, but it seems a lot of your comments on this forum seem kinda sexist. Just an observation. I mean, this particular comment seems pretty benign, but i've noticed a trend. I hope it's the former case rather than the latter, cause it's kinda sad to have male coworkers still bearing the chauvinistic mentality. It's the new millenium dude.

 

[ThinkFast007]

Just wanted to let you know that you are using "one" in the wrong context. When you refer to a team as "winning" the correct spelling is "won." Looks like it's back to the thrid grade for you my friend. Even us DOs know that one. 😀

Pittsburgh Steelers 2006 Superbowl Champions...Do it...Do it

OH MY GOD...i mistyped on an intrnt ( 😉 ) forum. sue me buddy.

your ( 😛 ) right maybe i should go back to the third grade, I'll reapply and hopefully i will get into a DO school where they emphasize spelling/grammar on internet forums instead of pt care. darn steel_city...where were u 4 yrs ago when i was applying for med school

 

[ThinkFast007]

Maybe you're doing this on purpose just to make fun of me, but it seems a lot of your comments on this forum seem kinda sexist. Just an observation. I mean, this particular comment seems pretty benign, but i've noticed a trend. I hope it's the former case rather than the latter, cause it's kinda sad to have male coworkers still bearing the chauvinistic mentality. It's the new millenium dude.

paranoia?

 

[chicamedica]

paranoia?

so if the "paranoid" suggestion is incorrect (i.e. that ur just trying to make fun of me), you're basically admitting that your comments are due to your being sexist, then. I figured as much. . .

In case you missed it, for the past 3-4 decades females are no longer seen as only capable of being homemakers. And yes they do watch football too. 😉

Watch out, you might have a few female colleagues too. Better be careful cause most wont put up with your patronizing rhetoric.

 

[DrRobert]

You two should totally hook up and get it over with.

 

[chicamedica]

You two should totally hook up and get it over with.

yeah right. . . 🙄

 

[DrRobert]

yeah right. . . 🙄

Clean out your PM box.

 

[Steel_City]

paranoia?

Dude, I'm sure you'll be well-liked in your residency program. Hope we get a chance to work together. Did you like that won?

 

[Steel_City]

paranoia?

Just tell your patients to ask for the resident that can't speak right.

 

[optimus_prime]

It has been my understanding that UPMC is considered a top 20 program, and for good reason. The system dominates western PA, so there they get all the interesting cases. The have a surgical volume of over 100,000 per year (nearly double Hopkins)- but because they have a small army of CRNA's, the residents don't have to do the "non-educational cases." They also have a nice lecture series, amazing perks, good hours and fellowships in anything you would want. I think the location is a turn-off for many, which is a shame- because Pittsburgh is a decent city. No one is saying it is Chicago or San Fran, but there is stuff to do and it is crazy inexpensive.

 

[Trisomy13]

The system dominates western PA, so there they get all the interesting cases.

i have to argue that UPMC certainly does not get ALL the intersting cases. The West Penn Allegheny Health System also gets its share of interesting and surgical cases. Pittsburgh is interesting in that while UPMC does dominate the scene, there are a number of excellent and well respected surgeons that choose to work at either Western Pennsylvania Hospital or Allegheny General. And when the West Virginia miner was flown to Pittsburgh for his highly publicized hyperbaric O2 treatments it was to WPAHS rather than UPMC. While WPAHS may lack name recognition, the local reputation for patient care is very good.

 

[Sodak]

i have to argue that UPMC certainly does not get ALL the intersting cases. The West Penn Allegheny Health System also gets its share of interesting and surgical cases. Pittsburgh is interesting in that while UPMC does dominate the scene, there are a number of excellent and well respected surgeons that choose to work at either Western Pennsylvania Hospital or Allegheny General. And when the West Virginia miner was flown to Pittsburgh for his highly publicized hyperbaric O2 treatments it was to WPAHS rather than UPMC. While WPAHS may lack name recognition, the local reputation for patient care is very good.

Yeah, I'd encourage everyone to choose their residency program in Pittsburgh based on where the coal miner went for treatment. Doesn't everyone know that the criterion that sets one hospital above another is where patients who are in the media go for treatment? Nevermind the publications, research, transplant or cardiac cases that a particular institution has. The question really comes down to, "Which health system in Pittsburgh will Angelina and Brad choose to deliver their baby?" If the answer is UPMC, by all means, go THERE!

 

[ADT]

Although UPMC may not have the same name recognition as other programs, the training there is second to none in my opinion. Few places have the ICU experience, regional, peds, transplant, etc. Ie: Peter Safar, started the concept of ICU here, Jacques Chelly author of significant text on regional techniques, etc) You can't beat having all fellowships at your fingertips. Nice benefits, moonlighting...The only area that may not be as stellar might be vascular/thoracic, but I cannot comment with an informed opinion here. (I would like to hear anyone's thoughts on vascular/thoracic experience, who might be more in the know). I have been told by a number of attending that UPMC, at least in Anesthesia circles, is easily top ten. Great case exposure, and after speaking with several residents, they do not get crushed on work hours. Would love to hear others opinions.

 

[maude eh]

I am debating between UPMC and WashU for my #1. Since I am interested in a career in academics, I realize that name reputation will go a long way towards a position. In that case, I believe WashU wins (though I am not sure where it ranks)...but theres something fishy as far as work hours are concerned. Some say they work near 80 hours/week, some say around the 60s. I am not afraid of hard work, but naturally there is a line to be crossed hours wise...I have needs outside the OR. Now at Pitt, its cush with 50 hours average. However, I am afraid I might be sacrificing job placement at a university institution in the long run. I wish there was an official rank list, so I could see what the difference is between the two programs.

Although UPMC may not have the same name recognition as other programs, the training there is second to none in my opinion. Few places have the ICU experience, regional, peds, transplant, etc. Ie: Peter Safar, started the concept of ICU here, Jacques Chelly author of significant text on regional techniques, etc) You can't beat having all fellowships at your fingertips. Nice benefits, moonlighting...The only area that may not be as stellar might be vascular/thoracic, but I cannot comment with an informed opinion here. (I would like to hear anyone's thoughts on vascular/thoracic experience, who might be more in the know). I have been told by a number of attending that UPMC, at least in Anesthesia circles, is easily top ten. Great case exposure, and after speaking with several residents, they do not get crushed on work hours. Would love to hear others opinions.

 

[Steel_City]

Yeah, I'd encourage everyone to choose their residency program in Pittsburgh based on where the coal miner went for treatment. Doesn't everyone know that the criterion that sets one hospital above another is where patients who are in the media go for treatment? Nevermind the publications, research, transplant or cardiac cases that a particular institution has. The question really comes down to, "Which health system in Pittsburgh will Angelina and Brad choose to deliver their baby?" If the answer is UPMC, by all means, go THERE!

Dude, use another example. People absolutely hate McGee woman's hospital...I mean hate it. They would much rather go to one of the local L/D suites like St. Clair Hospital or St. Margarets. Make sure you know what you're talking about before you speak up. UPMC does get a lot of great cases, but OB is not one of there strong points. Just ask any one of thier patients or faculty.

 

[Trisomy13]

Dude, use another example. People absolutely hate McGee woman's hospital...I mean hate it. They would much rather go to one of the local L/D suites like St. Clair Hospital or St. Margarets. Make sure you know what you're talking about before you speak up. UPMC does get a lot of great cases, but OB is not one of there strong points. Just ask any one of thier patients or faculty.

Knowing faculty and residents and hearing stories from both systems, I'd rather have a kid at WPAHS over UPMC. I think sometimes national reputation of the program as a whole can overshadow local reputation, which can be a better barometer for patient satisfaction. I for one recommend my family members to AGH, and know for a fact they are getting excellent treatment. Oh man, St. Marge over Magee anyday.

 

[ADT]

Steel City, I do not agree about Magee at all. Magee-Womens is one of the nicest hospitals that I have been in, and the Anes faculty there are amazing. Great teachers and cool cats all. Good cases. If my wife were to have a baby, I would take her to Magee without question. What's your beef?

 

[Trisomy13]

I am debating between UPMC and WashU for my #1. Since I am interested in a career in academics, I realize that name reputation will go a long way towards a position. In that case, I believe WashU wins ....

Keeping in mind that I am local to Pitt and therefore inevitably biased, I don't think the UPMC name will in any way hinder your career in academics. While I don't necessarily agree that they have the best physicians in the city in every department, their academic reputation nationally is very good. I have yet to hear anyone along the interview trail speak poorly of it. To the contrary, I have had several attendings ask why I don't want to just stay here and go to UPMC because they have such a strong department and good name.

 

[Sodak]

Dude, use another example. People absolutely hate McGee woman's hospital...I mean hate it. They would much rather go to one of the local L/D suites like St. Clair Hospital or St. Margarets. Make sure you know what you're talking about before you speak up. UPMC does get a lot of great cases, but OB is not one of there strong points. Just ask any one of thier patients or faculty.

Clearly my sarcasm was way over your head, Steel. No worries, mate. Since you're a Steelers fan, we'll all let it go this time.

 

[Trisomy13]

Steel City, I do not agree about Magee at all. Magee-Womens is one of the nicest hospitals that I have been in, and the Anes faculty there are amazing. Great teachers and cool cats all. Good cases. If my wife were to have a baby, I would take her to Magee without question. What's your beef?

My sister delivered there last summer. Nothing spectacular about the hospital, honestly. It's nicer than a dumpy county hospital, but doesn't even approach some of the places I have seen while interviewing. And it was her first delivery there (third child) and also her first cellulitis following a standard C/S. I think the anesthesiologist spit in her incision. Dirty blue collar steel workers. 😀 I think the UPMC anes program is top notch, but I'm not overly impressed with Magee.

ADT i believe we met at a Shadyside UPMC TY interview.

 

[ADT]

Maybe we did Trisomy. Shadyside is a sweet TY. The best TY in the city in my opinion. Mercy has a great gig going, but I don't think the experience there is as good...It is cush though. What other programs are you considering if not UPMC? Just curious what your thoughts are.

 

[ADT]

My sister delivered there last summer. Nothing spectacular about the hospital, honestly. It's nicer than a dumpy county hospital, but doesn't even approach some of the places I have seen while interviewing. And it was her first delivery there (third child) and also her first cellulitis following a standard C/S. I think the anesthesiologist spit in her incision. Dirty blue collar steel workers. 😀 I think the UPMC anes program is top notch, but I'm not overly impressed with Magee.

ADT i believe we met at a Shadyside UPMC TY interview.

Yeah, even the women OB's there have dirt under their nails eh? 😉

 

[Trisomy13]

Maybe we did Trisomy. Shadyside is a sweet TY. The best TY in the city in my opinion. Mercy has a great gig going, but I don't think the experience there is as good...It is cush though. What other programs are you considering if not UPMC? Just curious what your thoughts are.

i'm assuming you mean other TY years? i didn't get an invite to UPMC (PD said it was too "rigorous and competitive" when i emailed. i guess she meant the easy hours and 3-7 overnight call 😉 )

as far as intership years in the area - i looked at Shadyside, UPMC main, Mercy, West Penn and AGH (prelim medicine). i agree with you about Mercy vs. Shadyside. they trade places at #1 and #2 on my supp list depending on how lazy i feel. i think West Penn is comparable for the most part, UPMC main works you to the bone according to the rumor mill in town, and AGH Prelim med is a reasonable year in medicine with great attendings, decent benefits, a solid education and fair enough scheduling.

 

[quark]

My sister delivered there last summer. Nothing spectacular about the hospital, honestly. It's nicer than a dumpy county hospital, but doesn't even approach some of the places I have seen while interviewing. And it was her first delivery there (third child) and also her first cellulitis following a standard C/S. I think the anesthesiologist spit in her incision. Dirty blue collar steel workers. 😀 I think the UPMC anes program is top notch, but I'm not overly impressed with Magee.

ADT i believe we met at a Shadyside UPMC TY interview.

I can't speak for the patient experience at Magee since I've never been one 😀, but speaking as an anesthesia resident, the experience is pretty good. Lots of epidurals, spinals in frequently challenging patients. The attendings are great. No complaints from me.

 

[Trisomy13]

I can't speak for the patient experience at Magee since I've never been one 😀, but speaking as an anesthesia resident, the experience is pretty good. Lots of epidurals, spinals in frequently challenging patients. The attendings are great. No complaints from me.

i have no real beef with Magee or UPMC for that matter. Solid program despite their lack of foresight in applicant selection *cough cough*. I'm just feeling argumentative after 5 hours of walking rounds on neurology. 😴