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I have recently decided, in the psychology field I would like to specialize in trauma **therapy**

EDIT: maybe my question was misguiding...

**therapy** specifically

Specifically early childhood trauma... psyche fractures... dissociative identity disorders... not only working with children but adults with issues where this is the underlying cause.

When the psyche fractures and an alternate personality emerges to bear the brunt of the abuse, I want to study the traits/characteristics of these.

I want to study how to heal the fracture, and either help the person cope with the personality or get rid of it.

My experiences thus far have kind of... made me passionate about this, especially with addicts, although I don't believe an addiction specialty is ideal, because I see that field as blatantly corrupted and toxic, at least in my geographic area anyway.

Does anyone have any idea what bachelors and masters path I should take to make this my focus?

(I am currently brainstorming over a bachelors program. I have extensive experience in sales and corrections... basically working in a criminally insane psych ward... and yes I'm damn near 30 and still don't know what I want to be when I grow up).

Any advice or insight or criticism is greatly appreciated. I stay lost.

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I have recently decided, in the psychology field I would like to specialize in trauma.

Specifically early childhood trauma... psyche fractures... dissociative identity disorders... not only working with children but adults with issues where this is the underlying cause.

When the psyche fractures and an alternate personality emerges to bear the brunt of the abuse, I want to study the traits/characteristics of these.

I want to study how to heal the fracture, and either help the person cope with the personality or get rid of it.

My experiences thus far have kind of... made me passionate about this, especially with addicts, although I don't believe an addiction specialty is ideal, because I see that field as blatantly corrupted and toxic, at least in my geographic area anyway.

Does anyone have any idea what bachelors and masters path I should take to make this my focus?

(I am currently brainstorming over a bachelors program. I have extensive experience in sales and corrections... basically working in a criminally insane psych ward... and yes I'm damn near 30 and still don't know what I want to be when I grow up).

Any advice or insight or criticism is greatly appreciated. I stay lost.


I think you're going to learn that your view of things will change over time as you learn more about the clinical field. As far as the addiction field, I'm not sure it's any less or more "corrupt" than any other facet of mental health. Most of my current work is in trauma (I am an LCSW) and much of my past work is in addiction. The idea of dissociative identity disorder and multiple personalities is a pretty controversial topic. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but there isn't a lot of evidence for it, and even if there is, it's so rare that specializing in it would be sort of a waste. That said, you could certainly study/specialize in trauma and all of the trappings that go along with that. I think you would find that there's plenty there to keep you interested and challenged, including dissociation, etc. Two pieces of advice though:

1. Make sure you work on/have worked on your own stuff prior to embarking on a career in this field. Many people get in this field (addiction is a good example) due to experiences they've had. That's not necessarily bad but you have to make sure you are healthy. That actually requires a lot more introspection and work than you may think, especially if you work with patients dealing with trauma.
2. Look into psychology and social work. Combining those may get you the education and experience you want. I think if you know you are definitely going to do graduate work, getting a psych bachelors would be a good start as you would then know more about what direction and focus you want to take. If you then thought you just wanted to do therapy, you could go for a master's program in social work or counseling and get licensed. After that, your "specialization" really depends on your willingness and ability to take advantage of training opportunities. (That's at least been my experience) Find the programs/modalities that are backed by as much research and evidence as possible and learn them. All of that happens after you get your degree though.

Others with much more knowledge than I will probably have better info for you.
 
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When the psyche fractures and an alternate personality emerges to bear the brunt of the abuse, I want to study the traits/characteristics of these.

Do you have any actual evidence of this?

This is not Hollywood. The psychological effects of trauma are well-known. Affective disorders and dysregulation, followed by anxiety, followed by PTSD. Personality pathology can certainly be facilitated by experiencing ongoing trauma(s) in early life, notably the Cluster B disorders.

In depth research of trauma and its sequela will necessitate a Ph.D for the most part. The advice for anyone who wants to do anything is to find people who are doing what you want to be doing and talk to them. I would email people at various universities who are big names in the trauma and PTSD world.
 
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Do you have any actual evidence of this?

This is not Hollywood. The psychological effects of trauma are well-known. Affective disorders and dysregulation, followed by anxiety, followed by PTSD. Personality pathology can certainly be facilitated by experiencing ongoing trauma(s) in early life, notably the Cluster B disorders.

In depth research of trauma and its sequela will necessitate a Ph.D for the most part. The advice for anyone who wants to do anything is to find people who are doing what you want to be doing and talk to them. I would email people at various universities who are big names in the trauma and PTSD world.
Not only that, but do they have any evidence to refute extant research into personality and cognition that contradicts the idea of multiple personalities?
 
When the psyche fractures and an alternate personality emerges to bear the brunt of the abuse, I want to study the traits/characteristics of these.

If you really want to do research in this area, you will need a Ph.D. My advice is to set aside what you think you know about dissociative phenomena and seek training under a funded investigator who studies traumatic stress disorders or other sequelae of early childhood trauma. In order to do this you have several steps ahead of you, including getting into a reputable university, declaring a psychology major, making good grades, getting research experience as an undergraduate, etc. It's a long road. Stay humble, keep an open mind, and don't get ahead of yourself.

If you prefer to focus on clinical practice, you can certainly do so with a master's degree. A master's in social work or counseling might enable you to work as part of a team at a psychiatric facility, which is where you would be most likely to see patients with severe dissociative type symptoms.

Whatever path you take, one mistake I see people in your situation make at times is that they are really eager to show faculty what they [think they] know already. Often, that is to their detriment because they're actually working with some faulty assumptions and may become defensive when corrected. A better approach is to base your interactions with faculty on good, meaningful questions that will result in you learning something new. This is harder than it seems.

Good luck.
 
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Although DID itself is super controversial, dissociation is definitely something that you can study and research. I'd suggest looking into the work of Bethany Brand and Jennifer Freyd to see if you'd be interested in working with them someday.
 
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+1 to what Erg said above.

If you are just now in the process of considering psychology as an undergraduate degree then I would focus less on 'developing a specialty'. that happens in graduate training. Take courses, be open to the research, and dismiss your biases about how or why things occur and let yourself develop a better grounding of basic psychological ideas. If your long term plan is a graduate degree, you may need to be more thoughtful about steps along the way to open those doors (e.g., research, coordination with those who focus on related topics, etc.). Nonetheless, it sounds like you should be open to your ideas being challenged so that they may become more aligned with the literature.
 
Just echoing what others have said, I actually am a trauma specialist and have been practicing for 7 years, 6 of which were in a large metro area. I have seen fewer than 10 patients with DID in that time frame. It is really not a diagnosis that occurs frequently enough to specialize in. PTSD, on the other hand, absolutely is, just know that PTSD does not always involve dissociation of any kind. In many cases, your specialization will come less from the program you attend and more from the practica and internship sites you select and your dissertation topic. Faculty research interests are probably the most important variable to consider.
 
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I got my start by volunteering at a community rape crisis center, where I trained as a volunteer and answered crisis hotline calls. The training was excellent, and the staff were passionate about the work. This might be a good option for you, since you can meet professionals who are working with trauma survivors and ask them about programs and jobs that might be a good fit for you. If your community doesn't have a rape crisis center, perhaps a domestic violence shelter or a victim advocacy program might be other options. These programs will involve working with adults generally, but there may also be some opportunities to work with children in a DV shelter setting, for example.
 
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I cannot express my thanks enough to everyone who replied. I've been very bothered lately with deciding on a bachelors program. I understand that specialties come after the bachelors, however I wanted to avoid choosing a program of study when I have no plans of where to go thereafter. So again, thank you.

I think you're going to learn that your view of things will change over time as you learn more about the clinical field. As far as the addiction field, I'm not sure it's any less or more "corrupt" than any other facet of mental health. Most of my current work is in trauma (I am an LCSW) and much of my past work is in addiction.
Agreed, my views are always evolving as it is. I can imagine that staying true to anything I choose to study.

As I mentioned, I work as a corrections deputy. Drug court programs and rehabs work closely with the jails and court systems. I see many programs that do the same things over and over with a zero success rate. I see many prior addicts working in the field who... although may be clean at this time, still bring traits of that affliction with them and create toxic environments. I feel like most of the counselors don't care about what works for the individual... they either just auto-pilot through their job not thinking past the textbook, are over-run by their ego, or are just in the job for whatever paycheck they get.

The idea of dissociative identity disorder and multiple personalities is a pretty controversial topic. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but there isn't a lot of evidence for it, and even if there is, it's so rare that specializing in it would be sort of a waste. That said, you could certainly study/specialize in trauma and all of the trappings that go along with that. I think you would find that there's plenty there to keep you interested and challenged, including dissociation, etc.

Thank you for this because I had no idea it was controversial. I became somewhat close with a psychologist that was a director for the drug court program and a director for SMA when an ex relapsed on me a few years ago. She has her doctorate and is very respected and successful. That experience almost killed me... trying to help him, and she spoke of these subjects as if they were common place in her everyday work. Our discussions and her explanations for what I was seeing, by explaining these phenomenon's, is what helped me regain my sanity, work with my ex, and is what I base a lot of my inspiration off of.

1. Make sure you work on/have worked on your own stuff prior to embarking on a career in this field. Many people get in this field (addiction is a good example) due to experiences they've had. That's not necessarily bad but you have to make sure you are healthy. That actually requires a lot more introspection and work than you may think, especially if you work with patients dealing with trauma.
I heard the same things before I began studying various occult systems years ago, like Tibetan Buddhism and such. I tend to be a student of religion. I don't cling to much but I love to study. My interests took me down some strange paths to put it lightly. I have done a lot of inner work with abandonment, due to my mom blowing her brains out when I was three, and my childhood female friend repeatedly sexually abusing me from age six to eight. That's a strange sexual abuse dynamic being female on female. It interested me how many issues I share with women abused by men, except the gender is switched. Working in corrections has been a challenging and I've been forced to face a lot of those issues. It slapped me in the face the worst when I uncovered that my ex was brutally sexually abused as a child, however.

I feel like we will never completely close some wounds, and the right trigger can do us in. All we can do is breathe and control our reaction. I'm pretty accustomed to this at this point... lol, but I'm sure I'll still be caught off guard.


Do you have any actual evidence of this?

This is not Hollywood. The psychological effects of trauma are well-known. Affective disorders and dysregulation, followed by anxiety, followed by PTSD. Personality pathology can certainly be facilitated by experiencing ongoing trauma(s) in early life, notably the Cluster B disorders.

In depth research of trauma and its sequela will necessitate a Ph.D for the most part. The advice for anyone who wants to do anything is to find people who are doing what you want to be doing and talk to them. I would email people at various universities who are big names in the trauma and PTSD world.

While I appreciate the confidence here I do not appreciate the patronizing tone. I am not a child and I know that psychology is no more a Hollywood experience than working in a jail is as I do now. I also know that once you deem yourself a master that is all you will ever be. Your journey is over. While I deeply respect the academic world, textbooks, research, and professional opinions I will also strive to never become a pompous douche who thinks I know everything, especially not about something as dynamic, illusive, individual and mysterious as human psyches.

Not only that, but do they have any evidence to refute extant research into personality and cognition that contradicts the idea of multiple personalities?

I'm interested in finding methods that produce lasting results for people who's psyche, core beliefs, and perceptions of reality are broken or severely warped. I'm not interested in proving anything to anyone. I care more about the individual than the controversy surrounding what the individual perceives or what I perceive. I also do not care about making a name for myself through research. I just want to learn, adapt, and find a way to produce efficient lasting results in mental health.

If you really want to do research in this area, you will need a Ph.D. My advice is to set aside what you think you know about dissociative phenomena and seek training under a funded investigator who studies traumatic stress disorders or other sequelae of early childhood trauma. In order to do this you have several steps ahead of you, including getting into a reputable university, declaring a psychology major, making good grades, getting research experience as an undergraduate, etc. It's a long road. Stay humble, keep an open mind, and don't get ahead of yourself.

If you prefer to focus on clinical practice, you can certainly do so with a master's degree. A master's in social work or counseling might enable you to work as part of a team at a psychiatric facility, which is where you would be most likely to see patients with severe dissociative type symptoms.

Whatever path you take, one mistake I see people in your situation make at times is that they are really eager to show faculty what they [think they] know already. Often, that is to their detriment because they're actually working with some faulty assumptions and may become defensive when corrected. A better approach is to base your interactions with faculty on good, meaningful questions that will result in you learning something new. This is harder than it seems.

Good luck.

Thank you so much. I really truly try to approach subjects with an empty mind. That's what I was taught to do in martial arts when going to a new teacher in a new system. I found that the mindset applies to most things.

Although DID itself is super controversial, dissociation is definitely something that you can study and research. I'd suggest looking into the work of Bethany Brand and Jennifer Freyd to see if you'd be interested in working with them someday.
Thank you so much.

+1 to what Erg said above.

If you are just now in the process of considering psychology as an undergraduate degree then I would focus less on 'developing a specialty'. that happens in graduate training. Take courses, be open to the research, and dismiss your biases about how or why things occur and let yourself develop a better grounding of basic psychological ideas. If your long term plan is a graduate degree, you may need to be more thoughtful about steps along the way to open those doors (e.g., research, coordination with those who focus on related topics, etc.). Nonetheless, it sounds like you should be open to your ideas being challenged so that they may become more aligned with the literature.

I will do my best to dismiss biases. I tend to be nonconventional and rebel minded and that makes me come off as not receptive sometimes.

Just echoing what others have said, I actually am a trauma specialist and have been practicing for 7 years, 6 of which were in a large metro area. I have seen fewer than 10 patients with DID in that time frame. It is really not a diagnosis that occurs frequently enough to specialize in. PTSD, on the other hand, absolutely is, just know that PTSD does not always involve dissociation of any kind. In many cases, your specialization will come less from the program you attend and more from the practica and internship sites you select and your dissertation topic. Faculty research interests are probably the most important variable to consider.

Thank you so much. From my experience with SMA counselors for the loved one in the past, I thought this was much more common.

I got my start by volunteering at a community rape crisis center, where I trained as a volunteer and answered crisis hotline calls. The training was excellent, and the staff were passionate about the work. This might be a good option for you, since you can meet professionals who are working with trauma survivors and ask them about programs and jobs that might be a good fit for you. If your community doesn't have a rape crisis center, perhaps a domestic violence shelter or a victim advocacy program might be other options. These programs will involve working with adults generally, but there may also be some opportunities to work with children in a DV shelter setting, for example.

That is an excellent idea and I will look into that. Thank you.
 
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Unavoidably, our stories tend to become our mission. My mother committed suicide when I was three, my nephew when I was thirteen, and my brother just a few years ago. I've considered pursuing a mental health career a few times. I have almost a decade of aggressive sales experience. For anyone who finds Myers-Briggs creditable (if you don't that's okay too) I am a textbook INFJ. Sales put me in a deep conflict with my personal values, but did teach me extensively about practical persuasion, and truly astounded me with my depth of empathy. I could be livid... aggravated beyond all belief, and be suddenly overwhelmed with sadness. Further probing revealed that my dumb client was actually not dumb at all, but heavily medicated after suffering the loss of a child in a fire... for instance. My empathy easily keeps me kind even when I'm angry and I learned how to also distinguish that from sympathy, and my own emotions. Another words, I can feel what another person is feeling which gives me vast insight, yet be aware of this, and still think rationally without the emotion affecting my reason... at least I like to think I can. I'm not perfect of course.

Through a weird twist of events I became a corrections deputy. Sometime thereafter the man I'd been dating for two years began having two to six hour long flashback/dissociative/psychogenic shock-like episodes (all of which I knew nothing of and only learned about thereafter from Dr. B and other counselors with SMA). I took him to the ER at one point. I had him drug tested. He was clean at the time. The episodes continued and I legitimately believed my boyfriend was possessed. I've been perceived as a militant atheist for years so you can imagine the shock my friends had at this. I saw things, not like Hollywood things, but things still that I could not explain and later begged Dr. B to provide me rational explanations, to many which she thankfully did, still a few things she couldn't, although she reassured me that my heart and mind were in the right place. I had her support probono... she knew my ex from years prior and genuinely wanted to help him, as did the director of drug court. I had the full support of my Lieutenant. I had an incredible support system and so did he. I don't want to go into the details of the episodes unless someone specifically wants that story. Two months after they began he relapsed. I still had full support despite that being a serious danger in my career. I was involved every step of the way with Dr. B and the other counselors and directors. Months later, I accepted the reality of the lies and manipulation and confronted my ex, brutally. I attacked his allegations of not loving him and him being "a piece of crap" with such fury that I was screaming probing questions in his face like a drill sergeant despite his mouth hanging open and tears rolling down his face. He said there's no way I could love him because he was gross. I screamed and cursed demanding clarification. He told me because he was gay. I was confused and screamed and cursed some more, and he broke down and the story of being brutally raped repeatedly as a child at his coke-head fathers house spilled like a flood gate.

Suddenly, the episodes made sense. The way he was stuck face down on the bed glaring for 4-6 hours. The people he was talking to that weren't there and the things he'd say. The night terrors, and everything. It hit me like an axe to the neck. It changed my level of patience. It changed my everything, dragged my trauma to the surface of my mind... This was when I broke down and had the three plus hour conversation with Dr. B. She has her doctorate, was a director for SMA Behavioral and in charge of the counselors for the drug court program, very respected. Now she is a professor instead. As I said earlier, she explained to me core beliefs, psyche fractures, DID and such to me. We agreed we had to find a way to get him to start therapy, gently of course. I found out later that this friend of his cokehead father that drugged him as a child and raped him, still lived in town. Dr. B said that years ago my ex always had the worst struggles during the end of the year and she was pretty sure that correlated with when the majority of the abuse occurred. Not to mention the trigger of possibly seeing the bastard. The problem was, my ex had to want to talk and engage in therapy.

I coaxed as gently as I could. I urged him to talk about the "effed up thing," vaguely, as vaguely as was comfortable, and reassured him that Dr. B would not push. He just would not do it. The more counseling he went to, the harder he pulled away. Most men do not speak of sexual abuse till in their 30's if at all according to the statistics I read. Most people do not have a loving team of professionals and a partner with a great support system behind them also. I had every resource, personal skill set from sales, and opportunity available to persuade him to choose healing over self-medication and slow suicide. I lost him and failed. He pulled back so hard he became dangerous. One of the counselors had a hard conversation with me, said that even though I had done everything in my power to avoid it I was still his co-dependant and I was his enabler. I couldn't avoid that and it was going to kill me too. I lost him. I had to cut him off.

Being an INFJ in a jail as an officer is interesting, because as much of an a-hole as I can be, the inmates have some sort of natural comfort with sharing sensitive things with me. After a few years I had a conversation with one that starts off similarly most of the time... the conversation about how this time they are going to do well in rehab and stay clean. I told him, "You know whats strange is that I notice theres something all of you guys seem to have in common... something effed up happened to most of you as kids... somehow you all find each other... somehow you all find drugs." He nodded. I didn't press, just simply told him that if he ever wanted to break his cycle he had to get to the root of where his thought and emotional cycles come from, which means addressing that effed up thing, and that I felt like most counselors didn't get to the underlying root pains that fuel the drug addiction. He told me that one did. When she got too close to what it was, he ran from the rehab. He said he would rather be in prison from running, than have anything touch or come close to that effed up thing. I know the extent of how full of crap inmates are, but I felt he was telling the absolute truth, because it followed many other discussions I'd had with others.

That's my motivation. I don't want to be a jailer for the rest of my life. I'd like to take my experiences and do something rewarding with them. I've only been concerned with how exactly to go about it, and being able to support myself.
 
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Unavoidably, our stories tend to become our mission. My mother committed suicide when I was three, my nephew when I was thirteen, and my brother just a few years ago. I've considered pursuing a mental health career a few times. I have almost a decade of aggressive sales experience. For anyone who finds Myers-Briggs creditable (if you don't that's okay too) I am a textbook INFJ. Sales put me in a deep conflict with my personal values, but did teach me extensively about practical persuasion, and truly astounded me with my depth of empathy. I could be livid... aggravated beyond all belief, and be suddenly overwhelmed with sadness. Further probing revealed that my dumb client was actually not dumb at all, but heavily medicated after suffering the loss of a child in a fire... for instance. My empathy easily keeps me kind even when I'm angry and I learned how to also distinguish that from sympathy, and my own emotions. Another words, I can feel what another person is feeling which gives me vast insight, yet be aware of this, and still think rationally without the emotion affecting my reason... at least I like to think I can. I'm not perfect of course.

Through a weird twist of events I became a corrections deputy. Sometime thereafter the man I'd been dating for two years began having two to six hour long flashback/dissociative/psychogenic shock-like episodes (all of which I knew nothing of and only learned about thereafter from Dr. B and other counselors with SMA). I took him to the ER at one point. I had him drug tested. He was clean at the time. The episodes continued and I legitimately believed my boyfriend was possessed. I've been perceived as a militant atheist for years so you can imagine the shock my friends had at this. I saw things, not like Hollywood things, but things still that I could not explain and later begged Dr. B to provide me rational explanations, to many which she thankfully did, still a few things she couldn't, although she reassured me that my heart and mind were in the right place. I had her support probono... she knew my ex from years prior and genuinely wanted to help him, as did the director of drug court. I had the full support of my Lieutenant. I had an incredible support system and so did he. I don't want to go into the details of the episodes unless someone specifically wants that story. Two months after they began he relapsed. I still had full support despite that being a serious danger in my career. I was involved every step of the way with Dr. B and the other counselors and directors. Months later, I accepted the reality of the lies and manipulation and confronted my ex, brutally. I attacked his allegations of not loving him and him being "a piece of crap" with such fury that I was screaming probing questions in his face like a drill sergeant despite his mouth hanging open and tears rolling down his face. He said there's no way I could love him because he was gross. I screamed and cursed demanding clarification. He told me because he was gay. I was confused and screamed and cursed some more, and he broke down and the story of being brutally raped repeatedly as a child at his coke-head fathers house spilled like a flood gate.

Suddenly, the episodes made sense. The way he was stuck face down on the bed glaring for 4-6 hours. The people he was talking to that weren't there and the things he'd say. The night terrors, and everything. It hit me like an axe to the neck. It changed my level of patience. It changed my everything, dragged my trauma to the surface of my mind... This was when I broke down and had the three plus hour conversation with Dr. B. She has her doctorate, was a director for SMA Behavioral and in charge of the counselors for the drug court program, very respected. Now she is a professor instead. As I said earlier, she explained to me core beliefs, psyche fractures, DID and such to me. We agreed we had to find a way to get him to start therapy, gently of course. I found out later that this friend of his cokehead father that drugged him as a child and raped him, still lived in town. Dr. B said that years ago my ex always had the worst struggles during the end of the year and she was pretty sure that correlated with when the majority of the abuse occurred. Not to mention the trigger of possibly seeing the bastard. The problem was, my ex had to want to talk and engage in therapy.

I coaxed as gently as I could. I urged him to talk about the "effed up thing," vaguely, as vaguely as was comfortable, and reassured him that Dr. B would not push. He just would not do it. The more counseling he went to, the harder he pulled away. Most men do not speak of sexual abuse till in their 30's if at all according to the statistics I read. Most people do not have a loving team of professionals and a partner with a great support system behind them also. I had every resource, personal skill set from sales, and opportunity available to persuade him to choose healing over self-medication and slow suicide. I lost him and failed. He pulled back so hard he became dangerous. One of the counselors had a hard conversation with me, said that even though I had done everything in my power to avoid it I was still his co-dependant and I was his enabler. I couldn't avoid that and it was going to kill me too. I lost him. I had to cut him off.

Being an INFJ in a jail as an officer is interesting, because as much of an a-hole as I can be, the inmates have some sort of natural comfort with sharing sensitive things with me. After a few years I had a conversation with one that starts off similarly most of the time... the conversation about how this time they are going to do well in rehab and stay clean. I told him, "You know whats strange is that I notice theres something all of you guys seem to have in common... something effed up happened to most of you as kids... somehow you all find each other... somehow you all find drugs." He nodded. I didn't press, just simply told him that if he ever wanted to break his cycle he had to get to the root of where his thought and emotional cycles come from, which means addressing that effed up thing, and that I felt like most counselors didn't get to the underlying root pains that fuel the drug addiction. He told me that one did. When she got too close to what it was, he ran from the rehab. He said he would rather be in prison from running, than have anything touch or come close to that effed up thing. I know the extent of how full of crap inmates are, but I felt he was telling the absolute truth, because it followed many other discussions I'd had with others.

That's my motivation. I don't want to be a jailer for the rest of my life. I'd like to take my experiences and do something rewarding with them. I've only been concerned with how exactly to go about it, and being able to support myself.

Please dont get a phd to "save" people. The "wounded savior" mentality is strong in your post. This almost never ends well for anyone involved.
 
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@Vasilisa Jade Without knowing, you are coming across as arrogant.

Here's why: you are making some fairly definitive statements which seem to be based upon your own personal experience. That's not how the field works. To study disassociation, psychologist have to find hundreds of people who suffer from a pure disorder, get them to come in without coercing them, administer and score tests, run stats, review the literature, write up the findings, submit it to a journal who has other psychologists who specialize in this subfield review it, and then publish. That's incredibly time consuming, expensive, boring, and plain not fun. But that's science. Now imagine doing that for a decade. Then someone who hasn't done all that intensive labor comes in and says, "all your hard work is wrong because I experienced this.". That's one person compared to the hundreds you've seen. 100>1. You try to explain all your hard work, and the work of others; but this person insists that their experience is more important than the hundreds of people backing up your work, the thousands of hours you have done, the tens of thousands of hours done by your colleagues, etc. It's an assumption of superiority of experience.
 
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Unavoidably, our stories tend to become our mission. ...I'd like to take my experiences and do something rewarding with them. I've only been concerned with how exactly to go about it, and being able to support myself.
With regard to the "how to go about it" part, it's important to keep in mind that the ways you choose to make a difference in the world should also be in ways that respect your own mental health. If there's unresolved trauma/etc in your background, that should be a major factor to continue to keep in mind as you figure out your path going forward. Our life experiences certainly may trigger or drive our interests and motivations, but in the practical sense it's important to find a job that feels meaningful that is also unlikely to overlap with potential triggers for yourself - because that can be detrimental both to yourself (leading to job burnout/emotional difficulties) and for clients (loss of objectivity, risk of your own difficulties intruding in a way that derails the therapy/their own work, transference and countertransference, distracting from time/work with other patients or on other tasks). Many folks in the field may end up working in an area that is somehow related to life experience, sure... but not TOO related or TOO close to home. Just an important something to keep in mind.
 
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Unavoidably, our stories tend to become our mission.

It is avoidable to some extent. It has to be. We have to be able to make some space between the work and our own stories in order to be careful observers and thinkers. We have to be vigilant for the blind spots, biases, and heuristics that we've developed as a result of the particular way we have been reinforced through experience. This is true for both research and practice.

Being an INFJ in a jail as an officer is interesting, because as much of an a-hole as I can be, the inmates have some sort of natural comfort with sharing sensitive things with me.

What you would learn as a psychologist in training is that what you see now as "natural comfort" is in fact a set of identifiable stimuli and behaviors that you bring to the table, and others react to. Some of these may be benign or even helpful, but others would likely require closer examination on your part.

That's my motivation. I don't want to be a jailer for the rest of my life. I'd like to take my experiences and do something rewarding with them. I've only been concerned with how exactly to go about it, and being able to support myself.

Understandable. Your situation could be a jumping-off point for all kinds of careers. Empathy and curiosity will serve you well in a lot of professions. Some people build their careers around deflecting their own issues, and they often end up in the "helping professions." Try not to be one of those people.
 
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Please dont get a phd to "save" people. The "wounded savior" mentality is strong in your post. This almost never ends well for anyone involved.

Its not to "save" people that really hooked me in, although that is a nice feeling. I had a few enlightening conversations about "the rescuer" complex. INFJs tend to be drawn to playing the rescuer role. When I ended that relationship I had to internally plant my feet and work through that emotional crap. I accepted that people always must save their self in the end. We can only help with providing time and opportunities for them to make that decision. My coworkers and I feel the same way when a frequent flier inmate overdoses or kills their self. I work with amazing people. Blunt nasty a-holes that deeply care also. We're always mentoring and encouraging them.

What hooked me on this is the lack of success I see with the therapies. The lack of success with getting trauma out of people first and foremost, above all else. I feel like I could use my interpersonal skills, sales skills... bullcrap detection officer skills... to not only sell people on the idea of completely opening up and speaking, but then authentically continuing the therapy needed. These people are master manipulators and bullcrap their way around and through it all so often. I feel like most never even speak of it to begin with, if they even remember. I've never suffered from depression, anxiety, or anything really. I have heathy relationships despite the one incident with the relapse. I've always functioned well and been an introspective introvert. I never would have ever spoken about my sexual trauma and recognized the effects of it if it weren't for that experience with my ex.

If I come across as arrogant I apologize. My intention is always to give respect to get respect. I have a deeply contradictory personality. I'm as deeply loving as I am deeply hateful. Assumptions around my intent never quite hit the nail on the head.

Thank you all with helping me brainstorm about where to go with my career and next college step. Much love to you all and be kind to yourselves <3
 
Best of luck on your path. With regard to majors and etc., the first post that talked about psych as undergrad major and then possibly social work are prob the best bet. Getting an undergrad degree would give you plenty of time and hopefully opportunity to explore various aspects of psychology and maybe get some varied clinical / volunteer experiences in other areas too to help you explore different possibilities.
 
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Thanks again! I was talking to my boyfriend (who's also a corrections officer and is probably more suited to this kind of work than I ever will be although he wants to stay law enforcement lol) about the great input I got from here and clarified my thoughts a bit.

CLARIFICATION:

In sales there is a lot of analysis and emphasis on the construction of the dialogue and interaction between you and the client and how you are guiding their thoughts without their knowing...

I compare and contrast experiences a lot and use a lot of these interpersonal skills I learned there when dealing with inmates whether I'm choosing to be stand-offish, make them laugh, scream at them, gain compliance with verbal judo or gain compliance with a mentally ill inmate (which I have a strange knack for oddly enough).

This inadvertently leads my focus and interest on the methodology of the counseling techniques and the methodology of the therapy techniques within the therapy set used for trauma. That's what I'm really interested in. It was hard for me to pinpoint and express. Thanks.
 
Thanks again! I was talking to my boyfriend (who's also a corrections officer and is probably more suited to this kind of work than I ever will be although he wants to stay law enforcement lol) about the great input I got from here and clarified my thoughts a bit.

CLARIFICATION:

In sales there is a lot of analysis and emphasis on the construction of the dialogue and interaction between you and the client and how you are guiding their thoughts without their knowing...

I compare and contrast experiences a lot and use a lot of these interpersonal skills I learned there when dealing with inmates whether I'm choosing to be stand-offish, make them laugh, scream at them, gain compliance with verbal judo or gain compliance with a mentally ill inmate (which I have a strange knack for oddly enough).

This inadvertently leads my focus and interest on the methodology of the counseling techniques and the methodology of the therapy techniques within the therapy set used for trauma. That's what I'm really interested in. It was hard for me to pinpoint and express. Thanks.

Some of these are innate and desirable skills for a therapist, No one arguing that. But, its a simplistic ideal/notion of what actually occurs within ongoing professional intervention for trauma relates disorders.

And it certainly noting like what is needed to purse as academia/academic research within this filed.
 
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I've already found a few universities who's program I'm interested in for the bachelors. My previous plan in college was to pursue the Composition and Rhetoric program at UF and do who the hell knows what with it. I was always talented with rhetoric and analysis in English. I took Psych, Abnormal Psych and Sociology out of interest as electives though, so luckily I already have those pre-reqs for the Psych Bachelors programs I've looked at. Once I've gotten further with that I will start looking for.... places I might be able to volunteer or intern to gain more training in specifically what I'm interested in. Nothing is ever like what it seems. I'm eager to see how it really goes.
 
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