Please help ranking NYC programs

[oompaAPD]

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hey everyone. So after going through this charade, i feel very unsure about the middle or my rank list.
here is what it looks like
1. mt sinai
2. columbia
3. nyu

now im kind of lost
school remaining: St Vincents, St lukes, monte, downstate, yale, stony brook
i kind of want to be in manhattan, so stony brook and monte go down on my last. I dont really want to live in new haven, but kind of like yale, so dont know what to do there. lastly, st lukes did not leave a good impression on me, so i think im going to rank them last.
any help would be appreciated!

 

[coprolalia]

I saw this documentary last week. It was some film shot by this guy on his camcorder that was eventually found in what used to be in Central Park, but is now called "Incident Site U.S. 447". I don't know, man. The city looked pretty busted up. A bunch of people died in this film, too. I don't think there's gonna be much of place left to do residency. So, you might want to pick Yale as your number 1.

Just my $0.02.

-copro

 

[Trisomy13]

I saw this documentary last week. It was some film shot by this guy on his camcorder that was eventually found in what used to be in Central Park, but is now called "Incident Site U.S. 447". I don't know, man. The city looked pretty busted up. A bunch of people died in this film, too. I don't think there's gonna be much of place left to do residency. So, you might want to pick Yale as your number 1.

Just my $0.02.

-copro

true story: the Cloverfield monster actually attacked New Haven first, but a bunch of thugs from Gilbert Ave over behind St. Raph's (you know, the best place to buy crack in town!) beat it back into the ocean so it focused it's attack on NYC.

 

[Trisomy13]

hey everyone. So after going through this charade, i feel very unsure about the middle or my rank list.
here is what it looks like
1. mt sinai
2. columbia
3. nyu

now im kind of lost
school remaining: St Vincents, St lukes, monte, downstate, yale, stony brook
i kind of want to be in manhattan, so stony brook and monte go down on my last. I dont really want to live in new haven, but kind of like yale, so dont know what to do there. lastly, st lukes did not leave a good impression on me, so i think im going to rank them last.
any help would be appreciated!

can't speak about mt. sinai or columbia, but i rotated at NYU and it seemed like a solid place to learn anesthesia. they have some great minds over there in their ICU rotation - Drs. Sutin and Roccaforte come to mind.

 

[Gas]

Why isn't Cornell on your list? Also, there is a separate thread about St. Vincent's and their recent financial problems as well as the loss of resident housing in Manhattan. Search for that, as that may influence your decision.

I don't think you can go wrong with Sinai, Columbia, or NYU. All 3 programs are solid, just different. Depends what you are looking for, but if you want to be in Manhattan, the housing factor is big.

 

[A-non-y-mous]

I'm a southerner so the concept of NYC rent is really very scary to me. But being single and young...it's pretty enticing. I'm really looking forward to applying next year.

Do programs supplement your housing at all?

 

[carrie198]

Along the same lines, what are current opinions about Cornell vs Columbia? I obviously liked the housing at Cornell, but the residents seemed pretty stressed. Columbia seemed to have a better program overall and the residents were very happy, but the location isn't great and there's no housing. I'm not from NYC, so I have no concept of how important housing is. Do you guys think housing is a good reason to rank a program over another? And which of the two has a better reputation? Thanks in advance for any help!🙂

 

[Jeff05]

all of the top 3 will give you great cases and experience.

here's the issue. new york city is very expensive. you won't believe how expensive it is until you are living paycheck to paycheck in subsidized housing while making 55k/yr. so price of housing and ability to make extra money during residency is important, slighty less so if you're single and can live in a studio. otherwise, it is essential.

cornell is in a great location - heart of upper east side. the housing is nicely subsidized, but can't moonlight.

columbia is in a crappy location - washington heights, it's safe enough, but you don't want to move to nyc to live THERE. not sure about housing. i think there is a 3k/yr housing stipend (a joke) and can't moonlight.

sinai is in a pretty good location - upper east side/spaHA, has 8 buildings or so around the area that are subsidized (although 1 bedroom apt in the nicer buildings still run 1900/month), but what sets it apart is the fact that one can moonlight on a regular basis (still stay well within work hour regulations) and make REAL extra money. it's not that hard to make an extra 15k/yr and more.

 

[anestheticman]

I am thinking

NYU
St. Lukes
St. Vincents
SUNY Downstate
Maimonides

But still not sure...

 

[sp1129]

hey everyone. So after going through this charade, i feel very unsure about the middle or my rank list.
here is what it looks like
1. mt sinai
2. columbia
3. nyu

now im kind of lost
school remaining: St Vincents, St lukes, monte, downstate, yale, stony brook
i kind of want to be in manhattan, so stony brook and monte go down on my last. I dont really want to live in new haven, but kind of like yale, so dont know what to do there. lastly, st lukes did not leave a good impression on me, so i think im going to rank them last.
any help would be appreciated!

If housing is your concern, then St. Lukes is a better bet that St. Vincent's. There is no housing here. Also, you'll get a better case load and a better faculty thats well known at St. Luke's than at Vincent's. St. Lukes is also affiliated with columbia so if you decide to move out of NYC, you will have "Columbia College of Physicians and Surgeons" written on your degree. Just something to think about.

 

[pjm]

columbia is in a crappy location - washington heights, it's safe enough, but you don't want to move to nyc to live THERE. not sure about housing. i think there is a 3k/yr housing stipend (a joke) and can't moonlight.

Columbia offers moonlighting opportunities to cover some calls in the main hospital and weekends in the community hospital (Allen Pavilion) at 220th St.

Also, there are plenty of other reasons to pick an anesthesia program besides the pay. Moonlighting is really only available for 2.5 years max (subject to work hour restrictions), and after that you'll get a real salary.

 

[granolabar2]

I was also considering NYC programs and Yale, and I chose Yale. I had also heard sketchy things about New Haven, but I ended up really liking the town, and I am looking forward to living there after four years in Manhattan. The campus area had tons of restaurants (there are literally hundreds of restaurants in new haven), many clubs and bars, and tons of cultural stuff (museums, arts events, the world famous yale school of drama with discount tickets for the yale affiliated). There are several quiet, affordable neighborhoods nearby to rent an apartment in, and some of the residents I talked to bought houses or condos. I don't think I'll really miss Manhattan either, because its close enough to take the train in for the day (and the train runs until 2 AM or so).
By the end of my time in Manhattan, I was getting tired of the 24/7 noise, the smell, and the expense.
You really can't beat Manhattan for things to do, but for quality of life, I personally chose New Haven.

 

[oompaAPD]

for some reason st lukes really turned me off. Did i get the wrong impression? should they be higher on my list?