Please help. school list removal/additions

[imposter_syndrome]

Hi. I'd really appreciate any comments, especially if you've been through choosing a school list.
I made a school list of about 49 schools based on MSARS and probably need to edit that down to about 30-35 so is there anything you would take out or add to my list.

What are my chances considering I'll be applying early this cycle? and should I apply to more than the 2 or 3 DO in my area or nah?


Based on MSARS I tried to choose mostly schools who are very OOS friendly and are in the range of my MCAT score (some are a reach).

1	Seton Hall - Hackensack Meridian School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
2	Cooper Medical School of Rowan University	Neither	No notes added by user
3	Rutgers, Robert Wood Johnson Medical School	Neither	No notes added by user
4	Rutgers New Jersey Medical School	Neither	No notes added by user
5	New York Medical College	Neither	No notes added by user
6	Jacobs School of Medicine and Biomedical Sciences at the University at Buffalo	Neither	No notes added by user
7	State University of New York Upstate Medical University	Neither	No notes added by user
8	State University of New York Downstate Medical Center College of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
9	Albany Medical College	Neither	No notes added by user
10	Albert Einstein College of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
11	Pennsylvania State University College of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
12	Tulane University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
13	Wayne State University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
14	Loyola University Chicago Stritch School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
15	Lewis Katz School of Medicine at Temple University	Neither	No notes added by user
16	Drexel University College of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
17	Creighton University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
18	University of Vermont College of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
19	Eastern Virginia Medical School	Neither	No notes added by user
20	Medical College of Wisconsin	Neither	No notes added by user
21	Sidney Kimmel Medical College at Thomas Jefferson University	Neither	No notes added by user
22	Chicago Medical School at Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine & Science	Neither	No notes added by user
23	Charles E. Schmidt College of Medicine at Florida Atlantic University	Neither	No notes added by user
24	Geisinger Commonwealth School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
25	Nova Southeastern University Dr. Kiran C. Patel College of Allopathic Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
26	University of Maryland School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
27	University of Illinois College of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
28	University of Colorado School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
29	University of Central Florida College of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
30	Tufts University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
31	Saint Louis University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
32	Rush Medical College of Rush University Medical Center	Neither	No notes added by user
33	New York University Long Island School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
34	Georgetown University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
35	George Washington University School of Medicine and Health Sciences	Neither	No notes added by user
36	Frank H. Netter MD School of Medicine at Quinnipiac University	Neither	No notes added by user
37	Emory University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
38	Wright State University Boonshoft School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
39	Virginia Tech Carilion School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
40	Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
41	University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health	Neither	No notes added by user
42	University of Miami Leonard M. Miller School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
43	Wake Forest School of Medicine of Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center	Neither	No notes added by user
44	West Virginia University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
45	Stony Brook University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
46	Donald and Barbara Zucker School of Medicine at Hofstra/Northwell	Neither	No notes added by user
47	Loma Linda University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
48	University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry	Neither	No notes added by user
49	University of Connecticut School of Medicine	Neither

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[Banco]

You have a good application, you don't need 49 schools. 25-30 well aimed schools should be enough. Seems like you have residency in NJ and NY? In that case you should keep all state schools in NJ and NY - those will be your best chances.

To start, you can remove: Wisconsin, Colorado, Illinois, Maryland, UConn, Loma Linda, Emory (reach), West Virginia, Wayne State, Rush, Tufts (low yield).

Look through MSAR and see which schools on your list aren't OOS friendly (<25% of class) and you can remove those too.

 

[candbgirl]

You also need more clinical experiences unless you have left something off your list. What were your 500 hours of nonclinical volunteering?

 

[imposter_syndrome]

You have a good application, you don't need 49 schools. 25-30 well aimed schools should be enough. Seems like you have residency in NJ and NY? In that case you should keep all state schools in NJ and NY - those will be your best chances.

To start, you can remove: Wisconsin, Colorado, Illinois, Maryland, UConn, Loma Linda, Emory (reach), West Virginia, Wayne State, Rush, Tufts (low yield).

Look through MSAR and see which schools on your list aren't OOS friendly (<25% of class) and you can remove those too.

Thank you Banco.
Are those schools you suggested to remove not so OOS friendly?
Also, by less than 25 percent of class do you mean I take all the accepted OOS students and divide that by total acceptances

 

[Faha]

1	Seton Hall - Hackensack Meridian School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
2	Cooper Medical School of Rowan University	Neither	No notes added by user
3	Rutgers, Robert Wood Johnson Medical School	Neither	No notes added by user
4	Rutgers New Jersey Medical School	Neither	No notes added by user
5	New York Medical College	Neither	No notes added by user
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9	Albany Medical College	Neither	No notes added by user
10	Albert Einstein College of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
11	Pennsylvania State University College of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
12	Tulane University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
13	Wayne State University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
14	Loyola University Chicago Stritch School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
15	Lewis Katz School of Medicine at Temple University	Neither	No notes added by user
16	Drexel University College of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
17	Creighton University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
18	University of Vermont College of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
19	Eastern Virginia Medical School	Neither	No notes added by user
20	Medical College of Wisconsin	Neither	No notes added by user
21	Sidney Kimmel Medical College at Thomas Jefferson University	Neither	No notes added by user
22	Chicago Medical School at Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine & Science	Neither	No notes added by user
23	Charles E. Schmidt College of Medicine at Florida Atlantic University	Neither	No notes added by user
24	Geisinger Commonwealth School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
25	Nova Southeastern University Dr. Kiran C. Patel College of Allopathic Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
28	University of Colorado School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
29	University of Central Florida College of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user

30	Tufts University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
31	Saint Louis University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
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34	Georgetown University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
35	George Washington University School of Medicine and Health Sciences	Neither	No notes added by user
36	Frank H. Netter MD School of Medicine at Quinnipiac University	Neither	No notes added by user
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40	Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
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42	University of Miami Leonard M. Miller School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
43	Wake Forest School of Medicine of Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center	Neither	No notes added by user
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46	Donald and Barbara Zucker School of Medicine at Hofstra/Northwell	Neither	No notes added by user
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48	University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry	Neither	No notes added by user
49

 

[Faha]

You could add TCU-UNT, Oakland Beaumont

 

[Banco]

Thank you Banco.
Are those schools you suggested to remove not so OOS friendly?
Also, by less than 25 percent of class do you mean I take all the accepted OOS students and divide that by total acceptances

Usually they give a percentage. If they take 25% or more OOS it's usually fair game. The one's I removed are state schools that mostly take IS students; even if they take OOS students, they usually have higher than average stats.

 

[candbgirl]

I'm honestly not so sure what clinical means. I've done a lot of different volunteer work but I assumed only my hospital volunteering was considered clinical.
My other (non clinical I guess) volunteering is 1) teaching and performing science projects with middle school kids 2) bringing food to friendship circle homes during covid (friendship circle is an autistic/special needs program) 3) being in charge of the upkeep of my local synagogue (outdoor/indoor cleaning)

Clinical experiences are those that have direct patient contact. These experiences can be paid or volunteer. 100 hours is pretty low. You should really try to get 150 more before you apply. Your shadowing is fine as long as some of those hours is with a primary care doc. Your nonclinical hours are probably okay , especially your work with the Friendship Circle.

 

[imposter_syndrome]

Clinical experiences are those that have direct patient contact. These experiences can be paid or volunteer. 100 hours is pretty low. You should really try to get 150 more before you apply. Your shadowing is fine as long as some of those hours is with a primary care doc. Your nonclinical hours are probably okay , especially your work with the Friendship Circle.

Thanks candbgirl. Can you give me some examples of clinical experiences outside of volunteering in the hospital. Since Covid they shut down my program and it doesn't look like it's opening up anytime soon so I can't volunteer in the hospital anymore.
(They have some volunteering at a mega vaccine site but that doesn't sound like clinical if I'm correct).

 

[candbgirl]

Thanks candbgirl. Can you give me some examples of clinical experiences outside of volunteering in the hospital. Since Covid they shut down my program and it doesn't look like it's opening up anytime soon so I can't volunteer in the hospital anymore.
(They have some volunteering at a mega vaccine site but that doesn't sound like clinical if I'm correct).

You have to do what you have to do. How about volunteering at a Hospice? Or a public health clinic? I think people are actually counting mega vaccine centers and testing sites. At least you will be able to show you tried.

 

[imposter_syndrome]

You have to do what you have to do. How about volunteering at a Hospice? Or a public health clinic? I think people are actually counting mega vaccine centers and testing sites. At least you will be able to show you tried.

True. Thanks again.

 

[Faha]

Thank you Faha. Out of curiosity why did you take out buffalo, downstate, stony brook, NYU Long Island, and upstate (NY schools). I am a resident of NJ but my premed advisor says NY schools still consider me in state especially since I went to college in NY.

The SUNYs accept only 2% to 3% of non residents who apply. If you went to a particular schools for undergraduate school it would be worth applying to the medical school affiliated with that school.

 

[imposter_syndrome]

The SUNYs accept only 2% to 3% of non residents who apply. If you went to a particular schools for undergraduate school it would be worth applying to the medical school affiliated with that school.

Got it. So I'm definitely not looked upon as a NY resident even though I did 4 yrs of undergrad in NY, is that right?

 

[Goro]

Here is a realistic list

1	Seton Hall - Hackensack Meridian School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
2	Cooper Medical School of Rowan University	Neither	No notes added by user
3	Rutgers, Robert Wood Johnson Medical School	Neither	No notes added by user
4	Rutgers New Jersey Medical School	Neither	No notes added by user
5	New York Medical College	Neither	No notes added by user
6		Neither	No notes added by user
7		Neither	No notes added by user
8		Neither	No notes added by user
9	Albany Medical College	Neither	No notes added by user
10		Neither	No notes added by user
11		Neither	No notes added by user
12	Tulane University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
13	Wayne State University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
14	Loyola University Chicago Stritch School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
15	Lewis Katz School of Medicine at Temple University	Neither	No notes added by user
16	Drexel University College of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
17	Creighton University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
18	University of Vermont College of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
19	Eastern Virginia Medical School	Neither	No notes added by user
20	Medical College of Wisconsin	Neither	No notes added by user
21	Sidney Kimmel Medical College at Thomas Jefferson University	Neither	No notes added by user
22	Chicago Medical School at Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine & Science	Neither	No notes added by user
23		Neither	No notes added by user
24		Neither	No notes added by user
25	Nova Southeastern University Dr. Kiran C. Patel College of Allopathic Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
26		Neither	No notes added by user
27		Neither	No notes added by user
28	University of Colorado School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
29		Neither	No notes added by user
30	Tufts University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
31	Saint Louis University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
32	Rush Medical College of Rush University Medical Center	Neither	No notes added by user
33		Neither	No notes added by user
34	Georgetown University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
35	George Washington University School of Medicine and Health Sciences	Neither	No notes added by user
36	Frank H. Netter MD School of Medicine at Quinnipiac University	Neither	No notes added by user
37	Emory University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
38		Neither	No notes added by user
39	NYU-LI	Neither	No notes added by user
40	Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
41	University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health	Neither	No notes added by user
42	University of Miami Leonard M. Miller School of Medicine	Neither	No notes added by user
43	Wake Forest School of Medicine of Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center	Neither	No notes added by user
44	West Virginia University School of Medicine (only if you have lots of ECs benefiting rural populations)	Neither	No notes added by user
45		Neither	No notes added by user
46	Donald and Barbara Zucker School of Medicine at Hofstra/Northwell	Neither	No notes added by user
47	Loma Linda University School of Medicine (only if you're SDA or devoutly Christian)	Neither	No notes added by user
48	University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry (maybe)	Neither	No notes added by user
49		Neither

 

[Faha]

Got it. So I'm definitely not looked upon as a NY resident even though I did 4 yrs of undergrad in NY, is that right?

No, you are not a NY resident for admission to state public medical schools in NY.