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Discussion in 'PM&R' started by ardenaylor, Nov 15, 2002.
Hellow: What is the average income post-residency and 5 years out in PM&R.
good question and a little difficult to answer.
PM&R is such a broad field that depending on what you specialize in, the salaries vary a lot.
I would say five years out, $150,000-$400,000 depending on what you are doing.
Those doing Pain, Spine, MSK medicine would probably be at the high end. Although, I really have NO idea about salaries for people who have done a fellowship in spinal cord injury, or pediatric rehab. Anybody know?
I happened across this information in a physician salary survey put out by MGMA in 1999. Across the board, nationally, lumping all physiatrists together:
Average starting salary: $145K
Average salary after 5 years practice: $164K
Needless to say, these are only averages and actual salaries will vary considerably based upon type of practice, geography, payor mix, etc.
I just spoke with a PGY-4 PM&R resident at my school's program and he said that *starting* outpatient salaries (40-hr week, no call) he and the other residents were receiving were $140K-$180K.
This was for "non intervention" oriented jobs, though they were MSK-oriented. I was very impressed with this information. Obviously, a Spine or Pain fellowship would command significantly more.
I'm on a PM&R job mailing list and recently received this announcement (all personnel identifers removed). This should give you a sense of what recruiters are looking for in terms of skills and training and relevant salary reimbursement young graduates:
Title Exceptional opportunity to develop your own practice in S.C.
Specialty: Physical Medicine and Rehab
Practice Type: Multi-Specialty Group
Job Type: Permanent
Facility City: Northeast S.C.
Facility State: SC
Board Certification: Board Eligible
Call Rotation: None
Start Date: ASAP
Partnership (# of years): Partnership track with buy-in opportunity
Any Special Skills or Certifications Necessary? BE/BC
Interventional Physiatrist (PM&R) needed.
Job Description: BE/BC Interventional Physiatrist (PM&R) needed to perform needle guided epidurals, facets, medial branch blocks, IDET, discography, pain pumps and spinal cord stimulators. All procedures are done with a fluoroscope and C-arm located in office. You will have an immediate referral base of specialists providing NCV/EMG. The Group is looking for someone who wants to work hard and earn a substantial income while working with a fabulous group of professionals. Exceptional work hours! No call! You will have complete and total autonomy to work and manage your practice with full financial and managerial support. This is strictly an Outpatient opportunity and you must be Board Eligible.
Practice Description: This multi-specialty practice includes family medicine, anesthesia, pain management, physical therapy, manual medicine, massage therapy and expanding services while continuing to build new facilities. This group is interested in a physician who would like to join the current team and help grow a practice that already has an exceptional market and patient base.
Location Description: This all American city finalist is brimming with history, character, and southern charm. The city is the largest in the northeastern portion of South Carolina, situated in the heart of eight counties. The city has a population of 80,000 with a draw of 250,000 including the surrounding counties. This mid-sized southern city is large enough to boast a performance theater, symphony orchestra, many ballet companies, museums, festivals, a hockey league team, and a world-class recreation complex. Still, this city is small enough to preserve a small-town feeling with a number of tree-lined streets and parks, all of which add to the pleasant lifestyle that citizens enjoy. The city is approximately 80 miles northeast of Columbia, 100 miles north of Charleston, 90 miles south of Fayetteville and approximately 70 miles west of Myrtle Beach. Located in the upstate of South Carolina, you are two hours from Atlanta, two hours from Charlotte, N.C., and three hours to Charleston S.C. Based on geographic location, you will enjoy a superb climate with beautiful lakes and majestic mountains. The economic growth of this area is phenomenal as the county rates among the top 10 for capital investment and job creation in South Carolina. Excellent public schools and a large selection of private schools are just some of the incentives!! You will also benefit from the low cost of living in this very desirable area of the country.
Citizenship Info H-b candidates encourage to apply. This is not a J-1 or O-1 opportunity. No foreign graduates please.
Salary Information: This is an opportunity to develop your own practice. This position allows for first year profit sharing with an exceptional base salary and second, third and fourth year graduating increases. Included in the offerings are full benefits. There is a partnership track with a buy-in opportunity. Guarantee base starting at $180,000 for 1 year with productivity incentives. Included is a production bonus of 25% on collections received above $30K per calendar month. The base is negotiable for the right physician. You should enjoy one of the top incomes in the nation with this arrangement.
that would suck
*if* the DOs actually use manipulative medicine, they could make big bucks in PM&R. The demand is so high for manipulative medicine that many who specialize in it have cash only practices with a many week waiting list. Not all, of course, but many that I personally know.
If they do not use OMM, then no advantage at all.
the average starting salary often depends on location and practice setting. In the very popular New York City academic program where I trained, the average starting salary for a first year attending is 100, 000, only because of the competition for working in a prestigious institution.