PMR competitiveness 2013

[IamnotFreud]

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So I just looked at the #'s and it seems that more foreign grads matched this year than AMGs? Am I looking at the #'s right? It seems like 52 AMGs took PGY-1 out of 103 total and 152 took PGY-2 out of 294 total PGY2, so it means that barely over 200 AMGs took PMR out of a possible almost 400 spots. so about 50% AMGs?

 

[Taus]

That non-amg number includes a ton of DO's, likely much moreso than IMGs.

 

[IamnotFreud]

That non-amg number includes a ton of DO's, likely much moreso than IMGs.

I see. Yeah I was thinking that after I posted but still. That's pretty surprising that not more AMGs are picking PMR. Why is that? Seems like a great specialty.

 

[supraman23]

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[Paddington]

PM&R has always had a lot of DO's. At least as long as I've been around. If it hit 50% AMG's, that might actually be an "improvement".

 

[IamnotFreud]

PM&R has always had a lot of DO's. At least as long as I've been around. If it hit 50% AMG's, that might actually be an "improvement".

Well I posted the #'s I saw on the NRMP match outcomes for the year. It does not seem that there was a huge upsurge of AMGs as people were suggesting. I'm hoping to switch into PMR that's why I was freaking out. I am planning on contacting programs regarding any openings-any other ideas as to how to go about finding out about open spots? I'd rather not go through the match.

 

[Tromner]

Where are you getting 2013 numbers that show the type of applicant that matched? I thought they weren't being released until tomorrow?

 

[IamnotFreud]

Where are you getting 2013 numbers that show the type of applicant that matched? I thought they weren't being released until tomorrow?

I saw it in one of the forums, forget which one exactly-maybe anesthesia or general forum? It shows all the spots offered, the total % filled/unfilled, and whether they were AMGs, independent, etc.

 

[supraman23]

http://www.nrmp.org/data/advancedatatables2013.pdf

 

[Tromner]

Interesting. Thanks

 

[Paddington]

The long term trend seems to show slightly more US seniors going into PM&R. I would imagine the long term trend also shows IMG's being squeezed out in favor of DO's. It's amusing how quickly it's become competitive in just a few years. I always warn people that PM&R's low average board scores belie how competitive the field actually is.

 

[IamnotFreud]

The long term trend seems to show slightly more US seniors going into PM&R. I would imagine the long term trend also shows IMG's being squeezed out in favor of DO's. It's amusing how quickly it's become competitive in just a few years. I always warn people that PM&R's low average board scores belie how competitive the field actually is.

From what I gather, I don't think PMR is competitive when it comes to scores per se, in the way that derm or rac onc are, but I guess PMR filters based on real interest/rationale for going into PMR, as well as the low # of spots. I think people with real interest will likely match despite low scores. No?