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Holas - any opinions on the strengths/weaknesses/major differences of the three Portland, Oregon Community IM programs? Thanks

 

[Qafas]

Holas - any opinions on the strengths/weaknesses/major differences of the three Portland, Oregon Community IM programs? Thanks

I have thus far interviewed at Legacy Emanuel and St. Vincent, and will be interviewing at Providence Portland in a couple of weeks. I really, really loved the first two programs. They are small programs, but seem like real gems. The residents were happy to be there, and got along great with each other as well as the faculty. Both facilities were really nice as well. Legacy just seemed like a more intimate program, but St. Vincent seems to have a slight edge in terms of resident benefits etc. I've heard that Providence Portland is also a great program. I am looking forward to that interview as well. I intend to rank these program at the top of my list, and wouldn't mind going to either one.
If you have any specific questions, I'll be glad to answer as best I can.
Good Luck

 

[Meximullet]

I don't think that you can go wrong with any of the 3 programs. That being said, here are my 2 cents:

1. Providence - I would say that it's the #1 IM program in Portland...even better than OHSU. The residents, staff, ancillary services, facilities, EMR etc are all top notch. Dr. Gilbert, editor of the Sanford Guide, is incredibly nice and will be stepping down as chairman so that he can focus more on medical student and resident teaching. There is plenty of research for the motivated resident and I believe that they do a darn good job of sending folks into fellowship. In terms of training I truly believe that this place is on par with, or even better than, many big name university programs.

2. St. Vincents - A relatively close 2nd to Providence. Again, residents, staff, facilities, etc are all great. You get a slightly different patient population than at Providence...a bit more of the big $ crowd..but I think that you do still see a decent % of the underserved.

3. Emanuel - A solid program overall. I did, however, hear that they had some problems a couple years ago with an intern class where several folks left during the year (2/2 personal problems, family, etc.), thus making the rest of the interns and residents miserable since they had to cover for them. That can happen anywhere I guess. Anyway, a great program, but still 3rd on my list.

 

[Furrball2]

I don't think that you can go wrong with any of the 3 programs. That being said, here are my 2 cents:

1. Providence - I would say that it's the #1 IM program in Portland...even better than OHSU. The residents, staff, ancillary services, facilities, EMR etc are all top notch. Dr. Gilbert, editor of the Sanford Guide, is incredibly nice and will be stepping down as chairman so that he can focus more on medical student and resident teaching. There is plenty of research for the motivated resident and I believe that they do a darn good job of sending folks into fellowship. In terms of training I truly believe that this place is on par with, or even better than, many big name university programs.

2. St. Vincents - A relatively close 2nd to Providence. Again, residents, staff, facilities, etc are all great. You get a slightly different patient population than at Providence...a bit more of the big $ crowd..but I think that you do still see a decent % of the underserved.

3. Emanuel - A solid program overall. I did, however, hear that they had some problems a couple years ago with an intern class where several folks left during the year (2/2 personal problems, family, etc.), thus making the rest of the interns and residents miserable since they had to cover for them. That can happen anywhere I guess. Anyway, a great program, but still 3rd on my list.

The more main stream view is that among the community programs the ranking is as follows:
1.Providence
2.Legacy-Emmanuel
3.St. V's

OHSU is considered more prestigious. The only program where I have heard anyone say anything negative is regarding St Vs and that was from a former hospitalist / attending who is now a fellow at OHSU. I have no personal experience with St V's except for some OR time during a surgery preceptorship. All four programs are adequate, but what do you want? Prov is good but small. Of the community programs they are the only one that does anything on the Hill. Their senior residents rotate through the VA MICU along with the OHSU residents. Legacy-Emmanuel is a large program and getting bigger. When I was a MS3 they were moving toward closed ICUs with intesivist attendings and ward teams with hospitalist attendings. The hostpitalists were all very good and the program director is truly a gifted individual. St Vs is off by itself in Beaverton. Large hospital, lots of ORs, the creator of the mechanical heart valve left OHSU for there for greaner pastures and bigger pay checks.

In regards to Emmanuel getting the big money crowd. Legacy is the other Level 1 trauma center in town; where most of the GSWs end up. They have low income projects across the street. While Good Sam -- the oldest hosptial in the city and part of Legacy Emmanuel-- is on NW 23rd, the resident clinic does not have the highest rent clientel. Emmanuel gets the poor rent pts from the city and OHSU gets them from the rest of the state.

I should stop now. I am starting to get angry.

 

[sacrament]

1. Providence - I would say that it's the #1 IM program in Portland...even better than OHSU. The residents, staff, ancillary services, facilities, EMR etc are all top notch. Dr. Gilbert, editor of the Sanford Guide, is incredibly nice and will be stepping down as chairman so that he can focus more on medical student and resident teaching. There is plenty of research for the motivated resident and I believe that they do a darn good job of sending folks into fellowship. In terms of training I truly believe that this place is on par with, or even better than, many big name university programs.

I personally find this paragraph relatively hilarious, but if the interview trail has taught me anything, it's that opinions regarding training programs are as diverse as the human race itself. "Program X rocks and gave me a happy ending!" "No, Program X sucks ass and will murder your children!" And so I will simply say that I respectfully disagree and leave it at that.

 

[clexter]

When you interview at Providence. . . DO NOT forget that Dr. Gilbert is the editor of the Sanford guide. He brought this up during my interview with him and when he realized that I didn't know this fact, he was obviously upset! Guess I should have done more research on the medical director! Other than that, the residents were happy and the facilities were nice and up to date. The only other thing that concerned me was that only 1/3 of the residents go on to fellowships.

 

[Furrball2]

When you interview at Providence. . . , the residents were happy and the facilities were nice and up to date. The only other thing that concerned me was that only 1/3 of the residents go on to fellowships.

Well it is a community program. Community programs tend to attract people who, well, want to stay in the community.