Post-Fellowship Work Hours

[EEtoPre-Med]

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Hello everyone!

I know this may be a difficult question to answer given the many variables involved, but what does the average work week look like after fellowship? I know people say that for the first 1 to 5 years you spend a lot of time charting at home and preparing for the next day.

Let’s say that I’m about average or slightly above average in efficiency and planning to take over an established clinic panel with approximately 18-20 patients per day (hypothetical since I’m not looking at job offers until the middle or end of the year PGY-5). The thing that may slow me down is that I’m a bit on the conscientious side (making sure every box is checked). I’m planning on doing general heme/onc. My fellowship is fairly clinically heavy and we do a wide variety of tumors so I’ll have been exposed to mostly all tumor types. However, we generally see patients in attendings clinics so I don’t have the practice managing an inbox etc.

The reason I’m asking is that I want to start preparing my family (wife and kids) that it’s not going to be “bankers hours” after fellowship but I’m not really sure what it will truly look like? Any thoughts? How long does the learning curve last?

 

[MifflinDunder]

Just commenting to recommend joining some of the Facebook physician groups. You can ask the same question anonymously and get answers from a larger sample size.

 

[EEtoPre-Med]

Just commenting to recommend joining some of the Facebook physician groups. You can ask the same question anonymously and get answers from a larger sample size.

Any groups you suggest in particular?

 

[MifflinDunder]

Any groups you suggest in particular?

PM'd you.

 

[hemeoncbite]

PM'd you.

do you mind messaging me as well? thanks!

 

[flowers]

Epic has a product called "signal" that gives statistics about a providers time in EPIC (how much time they spend in chart review, inbox, notes etc.). It also measures "Pajama Time" which is the average number of minutes a providers is spending in EPIC outside of 7am-5:30pm on scheduled days. The signal report also allows gives the national benchmark. For Heme Onc physicians in EPIC practices the national average is 26 minutes with 25th percentile being 21 min and the 75th percentile being 30 min.

This data obviously doesn't capture time that a doctor is reading an article/watching a webinar/listening to a podcast. So it probably doesn't capture all the time outside of work, but is good to have more than anecdotes.

 

[TexasMed22]

Epic has a product called "signal" that gives statistics about a providers time in EPIC (how much time they spend in chart review, inbox, notes etc.). It also measures "Pajama Time" which is the average number of minutes a providers is spending in EPIC outside of 7am-5:30pm on scheduled days. The signal report also allows gives the national benchmark. For Heme Onc physicians in EPIC practices the national average is 26 minutes with 25th percentile being 21 min and the 75th percentile being 30 min.

This data obviously doesn't capture time that a doctor is reading an article/watching a webinar/listening to a podcast. So it probably doesn't capture all the time outside of work, but is good to have more than anecdotes.

This is such an interesting data set, thank you for sharing. Does it have any additional neat info about heme onc physicians hours? Also wondering how that 26 minutes compares to docs in other specialties.