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[HalluxSlicer]

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Hello,
I need some assistance with navigating creating a CV as a fresh grad attending. I've perused through reddit and other sites where hospitals and physician employers are bend backwards trying to hire physicians often using CV as more of a formality. Is this true with podiatry as well? I feel like with saturation and not being wanted like Foot & Ankle Ortho, our game when it comes to negotiating is low. Any advices and tips would be great. I am looking for a hospitalist podiatrist job and not some crummy associate job thanks!

 

[Homo sapien]

Hello,
I need some assistance with navigating creating a CV as a fresh grad attending. I've perused through reddit and other sites where hospitals and physician employers are bend backwards trying to hire physicians often using CV as more of a formality. Is this true with podiatry as well? I feel like with saturation and not being wanted like Foot & Ankle Ortho, our game when it comes to negotiating is low. Any advices and tips would be great. I am looking for a hospitalist podiatrist job and not some crummy associate job thanks!

Good luck. Hospital jobs are few and far between. You could cold call every local hospital where you want to be and see what happens. Or do that in an undesirable area. The fact is, we aren't in demand like MD/DO.

as far as CV goes, just put your education and residency on there. I put any surgical skills labs certifications i got on mine but I doubt it matters, just filler bs

 

[air bud]

It's not about the CV it's all about the cover letter that's how you get a job. As someone with let me see now three hospital jobs one orthopedic job and one multi-specialty group job..... It's all about being able to write a killer cover letter.

 

[air bud]

Guess what is that cover letter. What you learned in that rural Maine job....I will post excerpts of what is used later but basically

" I lived in BFE as the only provider of foot and ankle services and learned a lot and became good at stuff without a lot of help

Here is why I want to live here

I know how hospitals work, I built new service lines, I know epic/Cerner and am good."

 

[air bud]

Let's think about hospital employment. You are either going to build a new service line in which case you need to be able to demonstrate that you've already done it...or you are going to join an existing pod. They are busy and just want someone to help take the load off them. They don't want to train. They are not your PP daddy and invested (in theory) in developing/training you with " their protocols"

Edit: this is no different than any type of administration c-suite person. You go rural, work your way up then you're the COO then you move to another rural hospital and you're the CEO. Then you move into a larger system and you're a CEO and then you keep moving on up. It requires moving from job to job. Lol, I did have an interview where one of the c-suite guys was questioning me and my jobs and I literally said to him hey I saw your CV, you've done the same thing staying at each job about a year and a half to two years as you look for better opportunities and move on up.... He laughed and said he respected that response and I think that he actually did. Narrator: I didn't get the job. To expand on this one of the reasons I've had so many jobs is I've been so rural that at some point there's just not enough business for you to do 10,000 RVUs a year. Your maxing out your salary but not enough to bonus, you're doing 5 to 6,000 in these really rural locations. But you know what you're doing, your developing your protocols you're learning your developing. Then you get this better opportunity and you're ready for the big leagues. This is easy to put on paper this is easy to stand out. My current job.... And final job: developing a new service line, but guess what the volume is here and I'm going to do 10,000 RVUs my first year. I would not have been able to do this without the experience I developed going even more rural.

 

[Bluecollarmed]

Let's think about hospital employment. You are either going to build a new service line in which case you need to be able to demonstrate that you've already done it...or you are going to join an existing pod.

Or you build a rural practice directly out of residency at a place that never had podiatry employed.

 

[air bud]

Or you build a rural practice directly out of residency at a place that never had podiatry employed.

Not enough volume for a private practice podiatrist to survive. Only way a hospital can afford is due to facility fees, PT referral, OR fees, MRI etc downstream revenue.

 

[Bluecollarmed]

Not enough volume for a private practice podiatrist to survive. Only way a hospital can afford is due to facility fees, PT referral, OR fees, MRI etc downstream revenue.

Yeah I was referring to starting a practice through the hospital is possible without previous experience. I mainly skimmed the above posts so I may have missed some context or your thought process there lol

 

[GreenHousePub]

It's not about the CV it's all about the cover letter that's how you get a job. As someone with let me see now three hospital jobs one orthopedic job and one multi-specialty group job..... It's all about being able to write a killer cover letter.

All that bragging to say that you can't pick a single good job

 

[Feli]

The good news: if you're owner/partner, you never need CV again (just to send for hospital app/renew or insurance contracting every few years... they don't even look at it tho)

The not-so-good: for job hunt, nobody really looks past your residency training, ABFAS yes or no, and recent past job or two anyways (some DPM is gatekeeper screening apps at 95% of podiatry jobs)

[dunkin dog is right: cover letter +/- phone or email convo gets interview... interview gets job]

 

[air bud]

All that bragging to say that you can't pick a single good job

Oh yeah, raises lots of red flags....

 

[Bluecollarmed]

Oh yeah, raises lots of red flags....

airbud leaving good jobs is doing more for young pods than any association we have!

 

[Weirdy]

airbud leaving good jobs is doing more for young pods than any association we have!

Is that before or after he tried telling me not to get into any of this years ago?

 

[Retrograde_Nail]

None of this matters. The key to kingdom is to land one hospital job after residency. Then you become a top pick for any future hospital jobs because you have the experience.

As long as you are normal and can get through a phone interview and in person interview you will be ok. Also you need to sell yourself during the in person interview.

Choose wisely when it comes to hospital jobs.

Kaiser/Sutter health/ Palo Alto/ Sharpe all go to California podiatry program graduates unless you have special in with an attending there.

Target independent community hospitals with a wound care center attached to it. Any of these facilities with no podiatrist on staff would happily welcome you with open arms.

Research hospitals and cold call HR. Email HR. Be relentless

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[Bluecollarmed]

Is that before or after he tried telling me not to get into any of this years ago?

Airbud is like the drunk uncle that tells you not to look up to him but drives a Porsche and has a hot 3rd wife.

 

[Weirdy]

Airbud is like the drunk uncle that tells you not to look up to him but drives a Porsche and has a hot 3rd wife.

Funny you mention Porsche.
There's a pain doc, IM doc, multiple dentists in our building.

Guess who drives a van vs the AMG G wagon, Porsche Panamera 4S, Audi S7 that's parked in the same row.

Hint: it ain't them...

 

[Bluecollarmed]

Funny you mention Porsche.
There's a pain doc, IM doc, multiple dentists in our building.

Guess who drives a van vs the AMG G wagon, Porsche Panamera 4S, Audi S7 that's parked in the same row.

Hint: it ain't them...

Haha our ortho doc drives an RS6 but says he'd keep his mini van and sell the other cars if it came down to it. He's got a couple kids though so it's convenient.

 

[Sendin_Toes_2market]

I always get good parking in the doctors lot. I put a “I have no car insurance” bumper sticker on my 20 year old Honda accord.

 

[DYK343]

Kaiser/Sutter health/ Palo Alto/ Sharpe all go to California podiatry program graduates unless you have special in with an attending there.

Kaiser wouldn't be for me. Work long hard hours for salary. And its not even that great of a salary for the typical high cost of living areas they are located in.

 

[DYK343]

None of this matters. The key to kingdom is to land one hospital job after residency. Then you become a top pick for any future hospital jobs because you have the experience.

As long as you are normal and can get through a phone interview and in person interview you will be ok. Also you need to sell yourself during the in person interview.

Choose wisely when it comes to hospital jobs.

Kaiser/Sutter health/ Palo Alto/ Sharpe all go to California podiatry program graduates unless you have special in with an attending there.

Target independent community hospitals with a wound care center attached to it. Any of these facilities with no podiatrist on staff would happily welcome you with open arms.

Research hospitals and cold call HR. Email HR. Be relentless

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I applied to a smaller community hospital closer to my home about 6 months ago when I had had it with my billers (I actually got new ones and things are better now).

It would have been awesome but got the "we dont hire podiatrists, sorry" reply. Bummer but ok.

Two weeks later they hired 2 chiropractors to their hospital staff. That one hurt.