Postbacc grades and G.P.A.

[Jessbless]

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Hey Guys,

I have a question. I wanted to know if Postbacc grades count toward your Science G.P.A. and Cum. G.P.A. Thanks in Advance 🙂

 

[Ken Foster]

Hey Guys,

I have a question. I wanted to know if Postbacc grades count toward your Science G.P.A. and Cum. G.P.A. Thanks in Advance 🙂

Unforrunately Posbacc grades don't count for your science or cum g.p.a. After graduation from your undergraduate college any grades after that are not considered or looked at. Only your undergraduate grades are taken into consideration. I currently attend UOP dental school and I have been doing research on postbacc programs and how they relate to dental school acceptance via a grant through the UOP Mark Katz 58' Foundation. From speaking with deans at numerous dental schools, they generally look down on any postbacc program because the view them as representative of the fact an individual could not get accepted into dental school. My general consensus after speaking with 23 deans from dental schools around the country is that posbacc programs are a waste of your time and another carrer path would be much wiser.

 

[riceman04]

Unforrunately Posbacc grades don't count for your science or cum g.p.a. After graduation from your undergraduate college any grades after that are not considered or looked at. Only your undergraduate grades are taken into consideration. I currently attend UOP dental school and I have been doing research on postbacc programs and how they relate to dental school acceptance via a grant through the UOP Mark Katz 58' Foundation. From speaking with deans at numerous dental schools, they generally look down on any postbacc program because the view them as representative of the fact an individual could not get accepted into dental school. My general consensus after speaking with 23 deans from dental schools around the country is that posbacc programs are a waste of your time and another carrer path would be much wiser.

That does not make any sense whatsoever! My friend attended stanford u for undergrad and did not have a great gpa (so she says). Then after graduating she did a post bacc at UCLA and obtained great grades. And she was recently accepted to Emory's school of medicine. So with that said, it is only logical t conclude that her postbacc performance (along with all the other qualifications she had) got her accepted at a top 20 medical school.

Unfortunately you think you are being informative! This is why I always tell people to investigate for themselves b/c people like you who CLAIM to have asked deans, adcom members, etc... often give bogus, unreliable information mostly based on your own mal supported beliefs.

 

[tacrum43]

Unforrunately Posbacc grades don't count for your science or cum g.p.a. After graduation from your undergraduate college any grades after that are not considered or looked at. Only your undergraduate grades are taken into consideration. I currently attend UOP dental school and I have been doing research on postbacc programs and how they relate to dental school acceptance via a grant through the UOP Mark Katz 58' Foundation. From speaking with deans at numerous dental schools, they generally look down on any postbacc program because the view them as representative of the fact an individual could not get accepted into dental school. My general consensus after speaking with 23 deans from dental schools around the country is that posbacc programs are a waste of your time and another carrer path would be much wiser.

WTF? I don't know about for dental school, but post-baccs help a LOT for medical school admissions. And isn't this a pre-medical forum? I mean, Georgetown's SMP has been around for 30 years and 85% of their graduates get into medical school (eventually) and over 50% get in the right after finishing the program. So, while these grades are not averaged in with your undergrad grades, they are most definitely "taken into consideration". By the way, I don't know what a "carrer path" is.

 

[Roxystar4]

I have been browsing Student Doctor for the last few months and never created an account until I saw this posting. First off, this entire forum of Student Doctor is dedicated to students who are doing Post bacc and Master's programs in order to successfully gain admissions to medical/dental school. So by saying "My general concensus...is that post bacc's are a waste of your time," you are basically saying that this whole forum means nothing, which obviously is not the case. Case in point, I received a letter of rejection from Temple University just last month that specifically states:

"Completion of an undergraduate degree is essential; completion of a Master's degree is advisable"

I also spoke with an admissions officer at a Florida dental school that highly recommended a Biomedical Master's program for students with a low science GPA. She added that students who successfully complete the Master's program have a "great advantage" to an applicant with only a Bachelor's degree.
Since you are fortunate enough to be conducting a study under a grant for Pacific, quit wasting their money because you either aren't being truthful or aren't talking to legitimate people.

 

[tacrum43]

I have been browsing Student Doctor for the last few months and never created an account until I saw this posting. First off, this entire forum of Student Doctor is dedicated to students who are doing Post bacc and Master's programs in order to successfully gain admissions to medical/dental school. So by saying "My general concensus...is that post bacc's are a waste of your time," you are basically saying that this whole forum means nothing, which obviously is not the case. Case in point, I received a letter of rejection from Temple University just last month that specifically states:

"Completion of an undergraduate degree is essential; completion of a Master's degree is advisable"

I also spoke with an admissions officer at a Florida dental school that highly recommended a Biomedical Master's program for students with a low science GPA. She added that students who successfully complete the Master's program have a "great advantage" to an applicant with only a Bachelor's degree.
Since you are fortunate enough to be conducting a study under a grant for Pacific, quit wasting their money because you either aren't being truthful or aren't talking to legitimate people.

Hey Roxy,

Glad you decided to bite the bullet and join SDN! It took me a few months before I started posting too. Most SDNers are more helpful than this Ken guy. Plus, the fact the he has under 10 posts and is saying negative things means there's a high probablity that he's a troll who is just out to stir up a debate. I probably shouldn't have responded before, but I thought it was ridiculous and I didn't want someone who was thinking about a post-bacc to just give up instead!

 

[jackbnimble]

WTF? I don't know about for dental school, but post-baccs help a LOT for medical school admissions. And isn't this a pre-medical forum? I mean, Georgetown's SMP has been around for 30 years and 85% of their graduates get into medical school (eventually) and over 50% get in the right after finishing the program. So, while these grades are not averaged in with your undergrad grades, they are most definitely "taken into consideration". By the way, I don't know what a "carrer path" is.

Dental Medicine is medicine also, Tacrum....

 

[tacrum43]

Dental Medicine is medicine also, Tacrum....

Yes, it is. And pre-dent students have their own forum:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/forumdisplay.php?f=17

 

[Phil Anthropist]

I don't mind that there are several different types of pre-health SDNers on this postbac forum. I know it's listed under the pre-medical forums, but I think it fits well for a variety of pre-health students.

For the career changers, many of the pre-reqs are the same. Whether you're pre-med, pre-dent, pre-optometry, pre-vet, pre-pharm, etc., you'll still probably be taking bio I and II, chem I and II, organic I and II, and sometimes physics I and II. For those seeking enhancement of their academic credentials, there are postbac programs that work well for both (e.g., BU, UMDNJ, Colorado State).

This forum does seem to be dominated by premeds, but that should be expected considering that most of the SDN users are premed/med/postgrad students.

I've noticed that some of the pre-dent users here have picked up quite a bit of knowledge on pre-med admissions and give some good advice about pre-med stuff, even though they're pre-dent. Certainly there are some analogous aspects with dental/medical admissions, but I'm still quite impressed with how much some of these non-premeds have picked up about pre-med admissions.

 

[Phil Anthropist]

Hey Guys,

I have a question. I wanted to know if Postbacc grades count toward your Science G.P.A. and Cum. G.P.A. Thanks in Advance 🙂

Jessbless,

If you do an undergrad postbac enhancement program or take more undergrad courses a la carte, these grades get their own section (postbaccalaureate) and count toward your undergrad cumulative and undergrad science gpa.

However, if you do graduate coursework, these grades go on a separate section (graduate) and do not count toward your undergrad cumulative and undergrad science gpa.

Here's an example AMCAS verified GPA (page three I think) :
http://www.aamc.org/students/amcas/conversionguide2006.pdf

And this tells how courses taken after graduation factor into your GPA:
http://www.aamc.org/students/amcas/2005instructionbook.pdf
Pages 27-8 I think

 

[tacrum43]

I think I could receive a BS/BA in Biology and take 100 more semester hours without entering a MS/MA program and those would help my Undergrad GPA. However, if the courses have a 500 designation (grad courses) and I have not matriculated in a grad program I do not know if they would effect my undergrad GPA or be considered graduate coursework eventhough I had not formally entered a graduate program.

Maybe someone knows the answer to that...

Cheers,
Jackb

I don't think you can take undergrad courses after you have your B.S., even at another school. You can take some upper division undergrad classes as a Masters student, but I think those would only count towards your Masters degree. You wouldn't be able to "transfer" the credit since you have already graduated.

 

[Sundarban1]

I don't think you can take undergrad courses after you have your B.S., even at another school.

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Of course you can take undergraduate classes after you have your bachelor's degree, that is what a "post-bacc program" is for!

 

[wendywellesley]

I don't think you can take undergrad courses after you have your B.S., even at another school. You can take some upper division undergrad classes as a Masters student, but I think those would only count towards your Masters degree. You wouldn't be able to "transfer" the credit since you have already graduated.

yeah, like sundarban said, you can take undergrad courses after getting your BS/BA and have it count into your total undergraduate GPA. i'm doing that now, i got my BA in 03 and i'm taking upper division bio classes, they sure as hell are going to be calculated into my undergrad total GPA. of course i'm considered a non-matriculated grad student but i'm not working towards a graduate degree.

 

[tacrum43]

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Of course you can take undergraduate classes after you have your bachelor's degree, that is what a "post-bacc program" is for!

Okay. I didn't know they counted towards your undergrad GPA. Sorry about that.