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[dr1989]

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at work today i was having a conversation with one of the physicians. his daughter is in her last year at columbia and has been accepted at quite a few oral surgery residencies. as he gave me her pre-dent background i was yet amaze at how smart you guys are! def a humble exp!

-she had a 3.9 gpa undergrad at stanford (her father, the doc also did his undergrad/medical schooling there 😀
-extensive ec activities and shadowing

he mentioned to me that uop had offered to pay her tuition her first year but she refused and opted for columbia instead-and i guess from what ive heard she had a difficult time there with scheduling patients and getting hrs etc and it wasnt what she initially thought how it would be when she accepted-she def recommends uop now that she looks back on it.

she did have avg dat scores but obviously her gpa was good and her ec's

-im personally working on really focusing on my classes to bump up my gpa-highest it can go right now is a 3.5! imagine the competitiveness of all the other applicants!

dentistry is truly a competiive field (not that i didnt know that beforehand) and i can truly say that it has some great minds in it! so those who have are current students-congrats and lets hope the rest of us can be in your position soon! 😀

-just a few of my little rambles 😉

truly,

dr1989

 

[Maygyver]

Yeah, every time I go to predents.com my jaw drops.

 

[hoylematt]

I was wondering, maybe I am just not understanding but how can a person achieve a higher than a 4.0 average in college? I mean there's no A.P. classes in college amirite?

Like the highest listed on predents has a 4.2 GPA. What the heck is up with that?

 

[oae]

seriously though, I hope PRE-DENTS are not a realistic snapshot of the average/general pool? The stats are ridiculous and depressing for someone in my shoes... lol

 

[tdh278]

I was wondering, maybe I am just not understanding but how can a person achieve a higher than a 4.0 average in college? I mean there's no A.P. classes in college amirite?

Like the highest listed on predents has a 4.2 GPA. What the heck is up with that?

When AADSAS calculates gpas with the +/-, an A+ is equal to 4.33, an A equals to 4.0, etc. That person with a 4.2 must've made alott of A+s 😱

 

[JustwantDDS]

seriously though, I hope PRE-DENTS are not a realistic snapshot of the average/general pool? The stats are ridiculous and depressing for someone in my shoes... lol

Amen.

 

[pinhi]

I was wondering, maybe I am just not understanding but how can a person achieve a higher than a 4.0 average in college? I mean there's no A.P. classes in college amirite?

Like the highest listed on predents has a 4.2 GPA. What the heck is up with that?

some schools use the +/- system and and A+ is equal to 4.2

 

[flyingforever]

I was wondering, maybe I am just not understanding but how can a person achieve a higher than a 4.0 average in college? I mean there's no A.P. classes in college amirite?

Like the highest listed on predents has a 4.2 GPA. What the heck is up with that?

How the hell you can get 4.2 GPA, my school doesn't offer A+, they don't even offer minuses and pluses.

 

[flyingforever]

seriously though, I hope PRE-DENTS are not a realistic snapshot of the average/general pool? The stats are ridiculous and depressing for someone in my shoes... lol

I agree, some of them are total BS, OAE, I strongly believe that you will be accepted somewhere this cycle

 

[Maygyver]

Yeah, it's lame that some schools offer A+.

 

[AmpedUp]

Yeah, it's lame that some schools offer A+.

Agreed.

My school does the whole +/- system, but you can't get a grade higher than an A. They're afraid of inflation (otherwise, I would've had a few A+'s on my transcript). So it's somewhat of an unfair advantage, but I don't think it's worth fussing over either...Ah well..

 

[oae]

I agree, some of them are total BS, OAE, I strongly believe that you will be accepted somewhere this cycle

Thanks for the positivity! I sure hope some of those are BS.....

Glad to hear you got an interview at NYU. Good luck and knockem out...

 

[Maygyver]

Agreed.

My school does the whole +/- system, but you can't get a grade higher than an A. They're afraid of inflation (otherwise, I would've had a few A+'s on my transcript). So it's somewhat of an unfair advantage, but I don't think it's worth fussing over either...Ah well..

👍 Same at my school.

 

[redchesus]

he mentioned to me that uop had offered to pay her tuition her first year but she refused and opted for columbia instead-and i guess from what ive heard she had a difficult time there with scheduling patients and getting hrs etc and it wasnt what she initially thought how it would be when she accepted-she def recommends uop now that she looks back on it.
dr1989

Tho I bet being at Columbia helped with the residency placement, moreso than UoP I bet.

 

[XZeRO]

at work today i was having a conversation with one of the physicians. his daughter is in her last year at columbia and has been accepted at quite a few oral surgery residencies. as he gave me her pre-dent background i was yet amaze at how smart you guys are! def a humble exp!
dr1989

I found that it doesn't matter what kind of health care profession you are in, you will always be humbled by whatever experiences it may bring. Especially with dentistry/medicine, you'll sometimes encounter a situation where you don't know what to do. Definitely makes you feel like there's much more you can learn.

That's why I feel this profession is for me. I'll never be "the" expert, there may be situations you may have never encountered, and there's never a shortage of knowledge so there's no glass ceiling for improvement. 👍

 

[oae]

well put

 

[iwantdental]

Yeah, every time I go to predents.com my jaw drops.

Maygyver your stats are making my jaw drop, so I don't even want to know the stats that are surprising you!

Seriously, predents scare me...

 

[UBDent19]

Aye! I'm in favor of abolishing grade inflation. Make the +/- system universal from high school to college. Straight A+ = 4.0 only. Inflation only confuses the process. Resumes and transcripts can list amount of honors courses as a seperate stat.

 

[iamgosu]

what's wrong with A+?
Canadian schools all do +/-.

at my school, all classes that are "too hard" are unscaled (so class avg is a C or C-). Classes that are "too easy" are scaled (so that class avg is a C+ or B-). Is this inflation? I doubt it...a class average of C+/B- is like a 2.5.

but yeah...I've heard that predents is definitely skewed to the right in terms of statistics...

 

[XZeRO]

what's wrong with A+?
Canadian schools all do +/-.

at my school, all classes that are "too hard" are unscaled (so class avg is a C or C-). Classes that are "too easy" are scaled (so that class avg is a C+ or B-). Is this inflation? I doubt it...a class average of C+/B- is like a 2.5.

but yeah...I've heard that predents is definitely skewed to the right in terms of statistics...

Its true... but at UofC, an A+ is a 4.0. An A is a 4.0. (A- is 3.7 and B+ is 3.3). So, there is no incentive to get an A+ because it is worth the same as an A. Scaling happens here depending on the class. Some people actually get scaled down because of this.

 

[UBDent19]

what's wrong with A+?

Nothing is wrong with A+ except that it means different things in each school. It should only mean 4.0 (compared to 5.0).

 

[setdoc7]

at work today i was having a conversation with one of the physicians. his daughter is in her last year at columbia and has been accepted at quite a few oral surgery residencies. as he gave me her pre-dent background i was yet amaze at how smart you guys are! def a humble exp!

-she had a 3.9 gpa undergrad at stanford (her father, the doc also did his undergrad/medical schooling there 😀
-extensive ec activities and shadowing

he mentioned to me that uop had offered to pay her tuition her first year but she refused and opted for columbia instead-and i guess from what ive heard she had a difficult time there with scheduling patients and getting hrs etc and it wasnt what she initially thought how it would be when she accepted-she def recommends uop now that she looks back on it.

she did have avg dat scores but obviously her gpa was good and her ec's

-im personally working on really focusing on my classes to bump up my gpa-highest it can go right now is a 3.5! imagine the competitiveness of all the other applicants!

dentistry is truly a competiive field (not that i didnt know that beforehand) and i can truly say that it has some great minds in it! so those who have are current students-congrats and lets hope the rest of us can be in your position soon! 😀

-just a few of my little rambles 😉

truly,

dr1989

I read your post and it is not making a lot of sense to me. If your friend's daughter is at Columbia now, and a D4. then she can only be applying to OMFS programs now. The match is in January 2011., and even those very few OMFS programs which may not be in the match have probably not made any selections this early. Unless this post is from last year. Otherwise it is hard to believe.

 

[GTFOOMICT]

I read your post and it is not making a lot of sense to me. If your friend's daughter is at Columbia now, and a D4. then she can only be applying to OMFS programs now. The match is in January 2011., and even those very few OMFS programs which may not be in the match have probably not made any selections this early. Unless this post is from last year. Otherwise it is hard to believe.

I agree. You only get accepted one place! But when you're re-telling a story, it's easy to get confused. Plus a proud father can easily embellish his own telling of his daughter's success!!

 

[iamgosu]

Nothing is wrong with A+ except that it means different things in each school. It should only mean 4.0 (compared to 5.0).

yeah it is a 4.0.
AADSAS calculated my only A+ ever to be a 4.0.
my school UBC has a 4.33 scale, but when comparing to a 4.0 gpa scale, A+'s are scaled down to a 4.0, an A is a 3.85, and an A- is a 3.7.

 

[oae]

If AADSAS doesnt acknowledge A+ as higher than 4.0, then how does one person on predents.com have their GPA listed as 4.13 or whatever......?

 

[txlonghorn]

What are you talking about?! We are the bunch that couldn't make it into med school. Lol

 

[JBieber]

If AADSAS doesnt acknowledge A+ as higher than 4.0, then how does one person on predents.com have their GPA listed as 4.13 or whatever......?

AADSAS counted all my A+'s as 4.33. Not too sure about the post above yours.

 

[dr1989]

I agree. You only get accepted one place! But when you're re-telling a story, it's easy to get confused. Plus a proud father can easily embellish his own telling of his daughter's success!!

im sorry it was my misunderstanding. he was telling me her process of getting into dental school when she too was a pre-dent around 4 years ago.

-she went to columbia even though she was accepted to uop and ucsf. dad wanted her to go to uop because a) closer to home and b) many ppl in her family had gone there; she went because ny attracted her and apparently the school did a good job of convincing her

and she has been invited for interviews at loma linda and oregon so far. sorry for the mistake!

regardless-there are so many compettive students out there and it motivates me more to do better academically-my gpa of 3.1 puts me to shame..🙁