Pre Nursing for A Pre-Dental Student

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So I am going to start fall 2013 at a technical college. I need to choose a program of study. I don't think I can work towards a biology degree at a Technical college.

So the adviser reccomended to do pre-nursing so that I can transfer to four year then Dental school. I have not intention of being a nurse. Please let me know what I should do.

The adviser said she had a student at the technical college that transfered to a four year then got into dental school. Also they reccomended I do a dental hygeine degree.😱😱😱😱Help Choosing classes tommorow!!!

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Do you HAVE to start at a technical college? You will save yourself a lot of headaches down the road if you just start at a four-year university. Getting into dental school is no joke, and they like to see that you can "cut it" during a 4-year gig. Granted, there are definitely people who transfer from a CC to a 4-year university and get into dental school, but I think it causes lots of worrying and probably a few extra hoops to jump through to "prove" yourself.

First and foremost, whatever you do, make SURE you get all As. Anything less at a technical college just won't look good. Keep your GPA as high as you possibly can. A lot of people go into freshman year with a lackluster approach to their classes, but don't be one of those people! Study and get those high grades; they will save you a world of hurt in the future.

Also, it is probably best that you don't take a lot of your pre-reqs at a technical college. Like I said before, others have done it, but it's a riskier route to take. Since you can't go with a biology degree, go with dental hygiene over nursing. I kinda feel like this is a "duh!" thing. It'll introduce you to the field, and the program will give you some skills that you can actually use! 🙂 It could also work in your favor during interviews... "I started in dental hygiene and just yearned for more, so I decided to step up and work my way toward my new goal of becoming a bona fide dentist yada yada."

I think dental hygiene is probably a pretty intensive program, though. If you do it for two years and then transfer to a 4-year university, I think it will be hard for you to graduate on time, but I may be wrong.

Good luck with your decision. It's a hard one!
 
Do you HAVE to start at a technical college? You will save yourself a lot of headaches down the road if you just start at a four-year university. Getting into dental school is no joke, and they like to see that you can "cut it" during a 4-year gig. Granted, there are definitely people who transfer from a CC to a 4-year university and get into dental school, but I think it causes lots of worrying and probably a few extra hoops to jump through to "prove" yourself.

Funny, this is the first question I asked myself when I read this. Then the assumptions start to roll in: Did s/he not get into a 4-year? Did s/he even bother to apply? If money is an issue, why not at least do community college instead?

If my understanding of technical school is correct, then you essentially need to choose your career tract before you even begin school. If that's the case, then dental hygiene sounds like the right way to go. It shouldn't really matter how intensive it is because if you can't hack it at a technical college then you have no place trying to get to dental school. Having said that, I think you should plan on applying for transfer after your first semester, but definitely no later than after your first year. I absolutely agree with Glimmer that if you spend 2 years at a technical college you probably end up making life much more stressful for you during application time. Not necessarily more "difficult," but I think it puts you up for a lot more self-doubt and questioning if the interviews don't come rolling in like everyone hopes (but of course, that's all dependent on your stats come application time, too).

I gotta tell you, if you're doing a technical school over a 4-year university due to your grades and you're planning on being a dentist, I'd say you're definitely punching above your weight, to put it nicely. But hell, why not? It'd make for quite a story if you make it. Good luck!
 
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Yes I actually have to start at this technical college. WHich program Dental Hygeine or nursing would prepare me best for Dat and help me cut down on classes to take since I will work towards a 4 year degree.
 
By the way grades is not an issue for me I will work hard.
 
You need to know if this "technical college" is a community college as well. If you are able to take general education classes such as English 101 and 102, algebra, psychology, sociology, basic public speaking, etc (not JUST skill specific classes) then you can take those and probably earn an associate degree (art/science) without going through a nursing or dental hygiene program. If it's anything like where I went for dental hygiene (a community and technical college) then you can do this (earn an associate degree in 2 years) and then transfer to a university. Save your prerequisite courses for the university (chemistry, biology, physics, organic chem). If you can do this then it wouldn't be a bad thing just as long as you keep a high GPA, then transfer to a university and take the prerequisites while finishing a bachelor's degree. May I ask what the name of the school is?

Personally, I'm thinking you are not being advised well at all. I've had terrible advisors that are completely clueless about the dental school process and don't need to be advising students with their limited knowledge of the education required for dental school admissions.
 
Lake Washington Institute of Technology
kirkland wa

Yes poor advising
although the adviser said she had a student who went into pre nursing then transfered to four year and got into dental school. I doubt I can just take classes without a program. I will ask.
 
Ok, so I looked at your school online and here is my opinion. Take it as you wish, but I have some experience with transferring from a cc to a university and the last thing you want is to transfer and the credits that you've taken either 1) not transfer at all, or 2) not apply to your general education/university requirements and then the 4 year school require you to complete further gen Ed. Sooo...that being said, I'd honestly recommend that you choose the DTA (Direct Transfer Agreement) option. This would be the pre-nursing program. If I hadn't looked at your school specifically I would never have advised pre-nursing because dental hygiene seemed like the obvious choice BUT your school is set up so that if you do the pre-nursing DTA option, when you're finished you'll be ready to transfer to a 4 year university with junior status and will basically get a "check mark" with your Associate degree that says "you've fulfilled all the necessary gen Ed requirements and even if things are missing that we require it no longer matters because we participate in the DTA. Therefore, with your Associate of Applied Science (AAS) in pre-nursing, you are now a junior at our school and can now choose a major, take your dental school prerequisites and you haven't lost any credits or time by being at the technical college." 🙂

I hope that makes some sense. Dental hygiene, although giving you knowledge of the field, will actually set you back time-wise in finishing your degree (because it doesn't offer the DTA option) and prerequisites and essentially in applying to dental school. Your best bet is to go pre-nursing and kick butt. Get straight A's or as close as possible. Then transfer to the university, major in something like biology, chemistry, nutrition (some good science background), keep your GPA high, get involved in your pre-dental society on campus, volunteer and shadow with dentists (start doing these things as soon as you transfer to the university), etc. If you stay focused and make the grades, score well on your DAT, I think you'll be just fine. Just be sure to save your prerequisites (chem, bio, OChem, physics) for the university to show the admissions committees that you can handle those courses at a university level.

If you have any more questions let me know! Hope that helps a little. And here's a link to more info about the DTA. It basically lets students transfer from a community or technical college to a 4 year institution without running into problems with credit, just as long as you complete the AAS with the DTA option. In my state we have the same program but it just has a different name... 😉

http://www.washington.edu/uaa/advising/transfers/trans_ada.php
 
Wow thanks! I wish I could give you like a gold star or something.
The only thing I am worried about is that I heard showing to dental school you got associate may not look good because you have done so many courses at the community college.

So to clarify I should NOT do any pre reqs at a commmunity college?

Also should I minor in something when I get to univ. I was thinking maybe something that proves to the dental school that I have speaking skills like public speaking IDK?

thanks
 
Wow thanks! I wish I could give you like a gold star or something.
The only thing I am worried about is that I heard showing to dental school you got associate may not look good because you have done so many courses at the community college.

So to clarify I should NOT do any pre reqs at a commmunity college?

Also should I minor in something when I get to univ. I was thinking maybe something that proves to the dental school that I have speaking skills like public speaking IDK?

thanks

It's the "preferable" option. Some people get into CC first then transfer to univ for various reasons. If you can avoid going CC it would be great, but if you can't, it's not the end of the world.
Regarding minor to prove your public speaking.. It will show when you do an interview when they invite you.
 
Academically, think of your choice as being a notch above high school and 3 notches below CC. Not exactly a recipe for solid predental prep.
 
What? That's not very helpful and does not quite make sense.
 
I've always found it valuable to have a good back up degree and nursing is one of them. Also, a stepping stool for bigger things!
 
You're welcome. 🙂 You CAN get into dental school after getting your associate degree at a community college and then transferring to a university (<--- I did this after dental hygiene school and got accepted even with taking GenChem I and II and Physics I at my cc). You just HAVE to prove yourself academically. Work hard, focus and make good grades. Yes, I would save all of your prerequisites for the university - or as many as you can. You may be required to take a couple to get your associate degree but I'd still only take them if you have no choice. Your technical school is not any notch above or below a community college - it IS a cc since you're able to get your transfer (associate) degree. Anyway, good luck! You will be fine. 🙂
 
Oh and your minor will by unlikely to matter much. Do what you enjoy. 😉 I actually got my BA in "general studies" and got accepted. It's not even a major really. Lol But it was my fasted route to graduation so that I could apply last cycle rather than this one. My point - if you can prove that you've got what it takes academically, impress them with personality, show that you've worked hard to get were you are...all of that will be evident to the adcoms and your major/minor won't be weighed so heavily. 😉
 
Great advice,
Last question should I take most of my math in cc or in univ. I am asking since the DAT tests on math so I dont want to forget my math if I take it too early.
 
Well, the math is "quantitative reasoning" and the algebra and calculus that I took had nothing to do with the QR on the DAT. I used the Kaplan prep course and the QR on there is helpful to understanding what you need. It's not that it's complicated math so much as needing to be able to recognize a particular type of problem and knowing what method you need to solve it. I don't think I'd worry about where you take your math, but I'd definitely suggest some type of prep course (such as Kaplan) when preparing for the DAT.
 
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