Preparing for the written boards

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Hi,

I wanted to start a thread about information regarding preparing for the written boards (I've searched the forums about this and would like to start something current.) I'd love to hear advice from anyone who has taken them or from those who will this year.

So here are a few questions to start:

1. Who is/ has used SESAP? What do you think about it?

2. Anyone enroll in one of the review courses? (Osler, etc?) Was it helpful?

3. Any online question banks available? I think that there is something out there but I haven't had luck finding the site.

4. What other materials are people using? I know some people have talked about reading Cameron within a 2 month time frame. Any other ideas/ advice?

Thanks
 
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Hi,

I wanted to start a thread about information regarding preparing for the written boards (I've searched the forums about this and would like to start something current.) I'd love to hear advice from anyone who has taken them or from those who will this year.

So here are a few questions to start:

1. Who is/ has used SESAP? What do you think about it?

I did. Other than errors (which you are going to find in any book), it was probably the most accurately reflective of the actual exam in terms of content and difficulty.

2. Anyone enroll in one of the review courses? (Osler, etc?) Was it helpful?

I took Osler and I'm not sure it was helpful. Frankly, by that time (I took it the week before the exam) I pretty much knew the stuff they were presenting. Perhaps if you took it earlier (ie, the June course) or didn't have time off to study it would be helpful to focus. A couple of the lecturers were pretty poor...the organizer of the course (whose name I won't mention here) tends to go off topic and talk about how surgery was when he was a resident (which appears to somewhere around 1950) rather than his assigned topic. You should pretty much skip his lectures. Its expensive but my program paid for 1 course (the hotel and airfare was up to me).

It was not the "they give you the answers" that it was promoted as. I can only recall one example where they presented something that was actually directly asked (ie, nerve commonly injured during CEA). Trouble was, they told us the most commonly injured nerve and the question was the second most commonly injured...there seemed to be a fair bit of that on the exam (ie, second most common...).

Lots of people brought their families...if you are taking the course in Napierville Illinois RENT A CAR, especially if you are bringing a family. Its in the middle of nowehere and its not close to downtown Chicago. There are two restaurants/cafes within walking distance and although the hotel offers a shuttle to Napierville, you have to wait for it and to be picked up. Your family will be very bored there without a car.

3. Any online question banks available? I think that there is something out there but I haven't had luck finding the site.

The only one I've ever found is:http://www.surgeryreview.com/

Didn't purchase it so can't tell you if the questions are helpful or accurate.

4. What other materials are people using? I know some people have talked about reading Cameron within a 2 month time frame. Any other ideas/ advice?

Thanks

I do know people who read a textbook and Cameron seems to be the most popular. I'm not sure that's high yield to read a textbook. Rush is also widely used but many of its questions are harder than the real exam (which doesn't have the basic science stuff in detail). I am currently reviewing Schwartz's review book of questions and it has a lot of mistakes, some of the questions are ridiculously easy and are repeated on the next page, so cannot recommend it highly.

Fiser's book for the ABSITE is still useful although the basic science stuff could be skipped over. From my experience, High Yield is Surgical Physiology, Trauma and CC, Breast, GI (lots of stomach and GI bleed questions) and Oncology (all systems).

Finally, as tussy notes below, there is plenty of time. I'm not sure how long I took, but I had lots of time saved up from the first few sessions, so took an hour long lunch and still finished over 3 hours early. Then again, I'm the type of person that if I don't know something I don't sit and agonize over it.
 
Hi,

I wanted to start a thread about information regarding preparing for the written boards (I've searched the forums about this and would like to start something current.) I'd love to hear advice from anyone who has taken them or from those who will this year.

So here are a few questions to start:

1. Who is/ has used SESAP? What do you think about it?

2. Anyone enroll in one of the review courses? (Osler, etc?) Was it helpful?

3. Any online question banks available? I think that there is something out there but I haven't had luck finding the site.

4. What other materials are people using? I know some people have talked about reading Cameron within a 2 month time frame. Any other ideas/ advice?

Thanks

1 Sesap was okay - the CD ROM that came with it was nice because you could do a few questions between ORs or whenever you had time (our program bought if for our resident lounge computer).

2. I didn't bother with the review courses - too expensive. Those that did do them didn't find them that useful

3. I looked and looked for an online question bank but never found one. I had a bunch of questions from the Canadian Royal College exam (which i took a few month before the american boards) but the two exams are very different so they weren't that helpful

4. I read both Cameron and Sabiston cover to cover and made notes (did this before my Canadian exams) and then just reviewed the notes before the American Boards.

Good luck with the exam. I didn't find it that hard; the questions were straightforward and either you know the answer or you don't. I finished the entire exam in about 3 hours (they give you 8) so don't worry about having enough time.
 
4. I read both Cameron and Sabiston cover to cover and made notes (did this before my Canadian exams) and then just reviewed the notes before the American Boards.

Both? Cover to cover? Over what time frame?
 
Both? Cover to cover? Over what time frame?

Over about 9 months - although i did just skim some of the really boring chapters. And in Canada we have to write the "principles in surgery" exam at the end of second year so a good chunk of the early chapters in Sabiston where already in my head. The Canadian exam are at the end of June in your final year.
 
I'd study for it like your intraining exam + look at the SESAP questions. Realize of course that I'm rapidly turning into one of Dr. Cox's resident's who tell about how they trained in the 1950's 😀
 
I know several people who used Surgery Review Illustrated (Tevar) and did well on last year's qualifying exam.

Tevar is good but its WAY too detailed on some of the surgical subspecialties and even some of the general surgery. Of course, too much information is better than not enough, but I wouldn't let it scare people that they have to know that level of detail.

For those who are using the NY General Surgery Review CDs bear in mind that they are written for the recert examination and are easier than the real thing. The content is right, but not the depth.
 
I'd study for it like your intraining exam + look at the SESAP questions. Realize of course that I'm rapidly turning into one of Dr. Cox's resident's who tell about how they trained in the 1950's 😀

I feel like an old dinosaur...

"Did you really fall asleep driving home after being in the hospital for 72 hours?"

"Is it true that you weren't allowed to leave until the Chief came back from dinner and decided to round at 11 pm?"

Ahh...the good old days! 😉
 
I am also looking for recommendations on what to study this year. Good to hear Tevar is difficult - I like it, but I'm getting quite a few questions wrong so far, but using it as a way to prepare that's more interactive than just reading passively.

I found an online question bank - medtext.net...you can get hard copy books or ebooks...but I'm not sure if it's good or not. Has anyone used it? I'm afraid to purchase it in case it's not good. The website produces questions books for many specialties, so I'm not sure how surgery-directed the questions are. Please let me know if anyone has used this one.

There's also an online home-study review course called ThePassMachine - more expensive than Osler though, some of the same lectureres - anyone used this one?
 
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