Preprocedure procedures

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Apparently under direction from JCAHO our hospital has instituted a new policy requiring that virtually all procedures in the ED be preceded by "marking" and a "Time-out" Anybody else having to do anything like this?

Here is an excerpt from a letter I recently received explaining the policy


Procedures that definitely require both marking and time out
• Urgent/Nonemergent chest tubes
• Thoracentesis
• Lacerations when there are multiple lacs and only some are to be sutured – ones to be sutured should be marked. This is straight from the JCAHO website


Gray areas that MIGHT require both marking and time out – awaiting additional confirmation
• POSSIBLY joint and fracture reductions such as shoulders/hips/elbows/ankles/fingers/toes - Jackie will discuss this with OR personnel, as there are obvious ‘lesions’ with visible deformity that declare the site---also these procedures do not involve puncture/incision of skin, or insertion of foreign material into the body. We may HAVE to do this if the organization declares this as a ‘surgical’ procedure involving laterality, but I am hopeful that the institution-wide interpretation of the policy allows us to exclude these for the reasons stated. We have to have one policy throughout the hospital, I would suppose---ie if a procedure is marked in the OR, the same procedure should be marked when it is done in the ED.
• Joint aspiration, if no obvious wound/lesion exists - caveat: We don’t aspirate normal looking joints. I have a feeling that JCAHO would not interpret a red/hot joint as an ‘obvious wound or lesion’ and I haven’t been able to find any language that directly answers this question. I, for one, am happy interpreting a red/hot joint as ‘obvious’, thus excluding this from marking, until instructed to do otherwise.
• Abscess incision and drainage (again, I will buy the obvious wound or lesion exception to marking)





Procedures that are EXCLUDED from marking, but REQUIRING time out
• Emergent chest tubes
• Laceration repair
• Joint/fracture reduction (potentially—see above)
• Joint aspiration (see above)
• Abscess I&D (see above)
• Paracentesis
• “Teeth” - this is the way it is listed in the JCAHO exception. I guess this would include dental blocks, abscess drainage, the rare extraction



Procedures that are EXCLUDED from marking and time out
• Central line placement
• Fiberoptic scope (duh!)
• Anoscopy (double duh)





How this works….



For procedures requiring marking and time out:

1) Once a procedure is deemed to be necessary that falls under the policy to mark, the provider doing the procedure will take an indelible ink pen (which will be provided in the ED) and write ‘yes’ at the site to be worked on. This is done while discussing the laterality with the patient, and obtaining their confirmation that you are marking the correct side. The ‘yes’ must be visible once drapes are placed, if applicable. If the patient is incompetent to participate, or if they don’t know what side they need the procedure on ---ie the pneumothorax that is relatively asymptomatic except for shortness of breath---the responsibility to mark the correct side falls completely on the practitioner, who must verify and confirm the xray findings at the time of marking.

2) In the event that you will never leave the bedside from the time the decision is made to do the procedure, through the consenting process, and until the completion of the procedure (highly unlikely that this would happen), you don’t have to mark.

3) At the time immediately before the procedure is done, a time out will occur involving all members of the team doing the procedure. At this time, an out-loud, verbal confirmation of the five elements are required by the entire team involved---correct patient, correct side/site, correct procedure, correct position, correct xrays .

4) The time that the time out occurred will be documented by the nursing staff on a sticker that has been developed for this purpose.

5) Any member of the team is equally able and empowered to stop the procedure by expressing concern that something is wrong. At that point, the procedure must stop and the site/patient must be verified once again, until all members of the team are comfortable that the right thing is being done at the right place to the right person.

6) Even if the practitioner doing the procedure is the only person in the room with the patient at the time the procedure is done (ie laceration repair), the time out is still “appropriate” (ie REQUIRED) by JCAHO and must be documented either by filling out the sticker or listing that the time out was done in the dictation Marking must also be dictated, along with the level of participation by the patient/representative.



For procedures requiring time out only:

1) We are supposed to stop and take a breath and verify the five elements before proceeding. The policy does not state that the practitioner doing the procedure must document the exact time of the time out. That occurs in the nursing note when nurses are involved. I would just try to start incorporating into your dictation the statement “A time out was taken per protocol immediately before the procedure was begun”.

2) Even life threatening and emergent procedures require time out performance and documentation. Time outs should always be out loud when multiple staff members are involved. A silent time out is ok when there is only one practitioner in the room.



Again, there is now no applicable procedure, no matter how emergent, that allows us to be exempt from announcing a time out and verifying the five elements before proceeding. This is for everyone’s protection.



The nursing staff is to be trained to participate fully in the marking and time out process. They are also being asked to help remind us that this is now policy.

Anytime a staff member reminds a physician/practitioner that marking or time out is mandatory per policy, the practitioner will be expected to respond respectfully and comply with policy to assure patient safety. Likewise, if any team member brings up concern during a procedure, the practitioner must stop and verify the five elements until all team members are satisfied. All team members are responsible for speaking up if they identify a potential problem or concern AS THIS IS THEIR INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY PER HOSPITAL POLICY.

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Yes, we have to do this, although it is not spelled out quite as explicitly.
 
We've heard a lot of noise about this but haven't had the poker actually shoved in our asses yet (fortunately anal procedures don't require a timeout and marking according to your guidelines). You know JACHO's motto: Making your life suck just a little bit more.

Speaking of bureaucratic cluster f---- in NV nurses can't push "anestetics" such as etomidate. The gas passers are having a turf battle royal with the nurse anestests (spelled wrong, tired, don't care) and pointed out to the NV board of nursing that it's not within their licensure to push these things. The jacked up result is that if I'm getting ready to tube, say like yesterday, and I'm clamping the mask on a pt's face while the RT bags furiously and the pts desats I have to quit what I'm doing, come away from the head of the bed (the ONLY place an EP should be during an airway crisis) and push the meds myself. I'd say the board of nursing is actively trying to kill people but I don't think they're that aware of how stupid this is.

BTW I got written up and a stern talking to about the fact that when I was told I had to quit bagging and come around the bed and push my own drugs I expressed my disbelief and dissatisfaction with the policy with some loudly spoken inappropriate words. Oh well.
 
i have heard blustered sounds about this, but it isn't happening in our ED.
 
docB said:
BTW I got written up and a stern talking to about the fact that when I was told I had to quit bagging and come around the bed and push my own drugs I expressed my disbelief and dissatisfaction with the policy with some loudly spoken inappropriate words. Oh well.

To take away the ability to "write someone up" from an RN would be like taking away the ability to cut up things from a surgeon.
 
Seaglass said:
Yes, we have to do this, although it is not spelled out quite as explicitly.

Really??? 6 months ago this wasn't the case... this must be brand new. I've done tons of I&D's, lac repairs, etc, and never announced or documented a "time-out"....
 
I'm not "annnouncing" it or anything, and yes it is a relatively new requirement, I've been doing it for 2-3 months I think.
 
Seaglass said:
I'm not "annnouncing" it or anything, and yes it is a relatively new requirement, I've been doing it for 2-3 months I think.

This coincides nicely with a MICU patient we received from the ED who happened to get a chest tube in the wrong side of his chest.
 
I can promise it wasn't mine.
 
Although I am interested in the circumstances associated with getting a chest tube in the wrong side of the chest. Care to elaborate?
 
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