They could just skip the process. Its less time consuming to SOAP a warm body than Skype with 30 ppl who aren't that interested in your program, and they can then have more free time to option their teslas.
Here's my question: who the hell are the *****s at the ACGME who feel like they can be the gatekeepers to give "approval" of residency expansion?
They'll all break out the extra strength ultra-scrubbing SOAP. Can't stop the inevitable.
This is disgusting. Willis Knighton has been looking for cheap labor for several years now. They've had turnover in their employed non partnership track jobs. What do these clowns know about running a residency program.
Factually incorrect that they have never filled outside SOAP. But let’s not let the truth get in the way of anything. Not the MO, with certain people.
Maybe you work in some cheap labour warm body farm and stand to benefit. Maybe not!
Has been rumored for years, and I have a strong feeling that this will actually go down. Disgusting.
I know nothing about the program, but If they actually matched a soon to be unemployed fmg or do, so what? Point stills stands, completely unnecessary program with nothing to contribute.
I agree, but does the truth matter or not? Can say it’s terrible (I guess), but do we want to be carnival barkers or people producing a data driven / factual response to what’s happening?
the point of having WVU in any list is what others have said before. It is a program nobody needed or wanted. It is a terrible program or whatever adjective you want to use. Similar to their neighbor UPMC, have been on SOAP multiple times. If they filled with a transfer, And FMG, a person from the region, is besides the point. The chair is now the ASTRO president which is totally relevant.
Problem is if you want to make things better you gotta get rid of the "John Birch"-esque elements, and each lie has to be accounted for.
A kernel of truth in everything, whether it be carbon or the orange 🤡
That's fine.
If what you’re looking for is me admitting that they might have matched outside SOAP, then by all means be right. My point is as already stated. But i do take issue with your suggestion that all i do is lie. That’s not true. Ever since you came in here you have called me a broken clock. That is your words not mine. If the dogs are barking, we must be galloping as they say!!
i literally just told you above that i have no issue with you being right on this. that is not my point. We need to close down programs, new and established which are bad. If you have information to share please do to inform the reader of which programs to avoid. If all you have to offer is seed doubt and say “we don’t know if this is true” then you are not offering them much help. There is no question in my mind there are bad programs. This is not debatable. If i am wrong then please correct it and add to it! I think most of us want the same thing which is to overall improve our field!
Fake news has been going on for nearly a decade.... starting with our esteemed leadership at ASTRO as well as various chairs/PDs (Hallahan's letter to C Shah in 2013), ASTRO ignoring supervision rules at CAHs but ringing alarm bells about it now in 2020 at non-CAH facilities, denigrating private practitioners partnering with urologists while turning a blind eye to shameless expansion/indications for protons etc.
Honestly, not even the “facts” are good enough at this point. Those PD’s, chairs are all going to continue to do what they are doing.
Agreed. If all is laid bare in 5 years and most grads are unemployed/seeking fellowships (my prediction)they will still try to expand. Happened in pathology. At the end of the day, self interest prevails. All we can do is warn medstudents.
Perhaps they came from the Greenbrier?
Let carbon eat. Sometimes a puppy disappears.
Things are slow in my department this week, so I dug deeper. Not going to name names, but one of the residents appeared on a school match list, which listed only "prelim medicine". Other people on the list had things like "radiology, prelim medicine". That resident definitely got in outside of the match.
You're certainly welcome to fact check and set the record straight. Everyone will be better for it
We can only hope this hell pit no good place never opens up.
Also, people should use this thread (and others like it) to beat your respective departments over the head, if you can. There are a handful of posts from the 20-year history of SDN which discuss my department in a factually-incorrect manner. However, I was able to track down where these beliefs were coming from and talked to the faculty, which resulted in changed behavior (for the better). RadOnc rumors don't generally appear out of thin air, as I discovered.
Hopefully the match is doing that now, these days
