Programs with No Over Night Attending Coverage

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[maxxor]

BIDMC
Johns Hopkins

 

[qwerty89]

MCW

 

[greg1184]

MCG, you have solo coverage with no in-house attending.

 

[shark2000]

No in house attending is a great advantage. You learn a lot.

 

[maxxor]

MGH has solo neurorad call and semi solo ER general ER call. They have attendings overnight just to carry the volume, however they are not reading out overnight. Resident reads and the attending is reading in another room.

 

[meister]

What does that mean? If the attending is there or reading cases then that is not "no in house attending."

 

[maxxor]

What does that mean? If the attending is there or reading cases then that is not "no in house attending."

There's reading out overnight just like during day services (BWH does this). And then there's an attending in another room reading, as well as two ER fellows and another resident PLUS a resident just reading Neuro because the volume is too high to cover the ER.

But in the second case, you don't read out until ER rounds in the morning.

 

[Ugen]

I think Baylor University (Dallas), Mayo, Emory, UTSW all fit the bill.

 

[Demiurge]

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[elektroshok]

UTSW has no overnight attendings

 

[DrBowtie]

It's also important to look at what you are solo reading overnight.

Some places fellows are taking MR call cases.

 

[mcridog3]

University of Wisconsin

 

[qwerty89]

Santa Clara Valley Medical Center

 

[badasshairday]

What does that mean? If the attending is there or reading cases then that is not "no in house attending."

It means our program brah!

 

[vm26]

Times are changing, good chance that regardless of what is in place now, you will have an in-house attending by the time you are doing NF as a 2nd year

 

[cbtk18]

Times are changing, good chance that regardless of what is in place now, you will have an in-house attending by the time you are doing NF as a 2nd year

Not at my shop

 

[bravesfan113]

MUSC

 

[Beamer128]

VCU

 

[rads321]

I have heard that there are some programs without any calL or only a few weeks. Truth? If so this is definitely detrimental to training IMO.

 

[deleted116380]

I have heard that there are some programs without any calL or only a few weeks. Truth? If so this is definitely detrimental to training IMO.

I'm not aware of any rads program that doesn't have call. It's not an ACGME graduation requirement from what I can find although they do state limits: https://www.acgme.org/acgmeweb/Port...FAQ-PIF/420_diagnostic_radiology_07012013.pdf

Basically the only requirement is six I-131 therapies (3 high and 3 low dose), 240 mammos read within a 6 month period as an upper level, and doing IR procedures with no specific number to perform required.

Some programs just have residents do prelim reads overnight that the day shift finalizes to full reports and others make residents do full reports overnight. That's something I think most don't know/think about when they ask about programs and their call.

 

[Rad2013]

UNC

 

[vm26]

I have heard that there are some programs without any calL or only a few weeks. Truth? If so this is definitely detrimental to training IMO.

yes it would be detrimental...call forces you to fly solo and make your own decisions...with that said the trend is to have 24-hr attending coverage, not quite sure how this changes resident education

 

[Rad2013]

Full reports vs "no PE" is a huge deal.

 

[jjbodean]

There's a big trend to have in house attending coverage."

just curious as to what your source for this info is?