Psych and obesity

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I really want to help fight obesity. I have so much passion for it since it can be such a devastating condition - physically and mentally.
Sometimes I consider becoming an endocrinologist since they deal with a lot of obese patients but I'm much more interested in psych. It's no surprise that many obese people can suffer from mental health issues so I was wondering if anyone knew if it were possible to work mainly with the overweight/obese population. I know there are obesity clinics so I'm curious as to whether they have psychiatrists and psychologists to help with behavior modification or if their main focus is on surgery. Could one set up a private practice with a dietician?
 
I haven't seen any psychiatric study into fighting obesity, though I have seen psychologists specialize in this field. I did a rotation at an Eating DO clinic and asked if they ever got any obese patients. The answer was no--only underweight patients such as anorexic patients.

I guess medicine doesn't tend to see obesity as something that requires urgent care. We tend to react after the metabolic problems set in. I say that rather cynically because I don't agree with it.

This may help you. The Learning Channel used to have a show on the Brookhaven Obesity Clinic that treated morbid obesity. I actually contacted them because I wanted them to do a grand rounds at my program.
http://www.brookhavenrehab.com/
 
I think that too, dealing with obesity is dealing with long-term behavior patterns and lifestyle change--stuff that we basically train to do all the time in psych. But it would certainly be possible to manage weight loss issues, some basic endocrine, etc., collaborate with a dietician if you desired. I'm sure the bariatric surgeons would keep you WELL supplied with referrals!
 
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I don't know of any psychiatrist specializing in obesity per se, but I think it definitely does have psychological underpinnings at times. Not always the same in every case, but often there and often significant. Like the sexual abuse survivor who becomes obese because it's "safer" to be so. Or even just the phenomenon of comfort-eating in general. Food can be an addiction as much as drugs can.
 
I wish you luck. Everytime I come to the states (from Asia) I almost throw up whenever I enter a buffet place and see all the hogs at the trough. One guy sitting at a table next to me had a neck I last saw on a boar at a state fair. He was gasping for breath as he shoveled plate after plate into his mouth. Perhaps you could have someone put flyers on windshields in the parking lot.
 
That's your problem right there. You don't go to a brothel and gripe about all the sex people are having! 😉

Funny, but not correct. My brother-in-law (skinny Air Force dude), picked the place. You can eat very healthy at many buffet places, it's about the selection and amount...and I do.
 
While some people are appalled, I feel for them so that's why I want to help them. Thanks for the replies.
 
While some people are appalled, I feel for them so that's why I want to help them. Thanks for the replies.

That's a great calling, and we can only imagine that there will eventually be some neurobiological findings that would place at least large subsets of obesity issues into eating disorder, anxiety disorder, or mood disorder realms. The research isn't there yet, but it's hard to think that some pretty big break throughs aren't close.

There are probably some practical business model barriers to doing exactly the kind of work you're wanting to do, but since you're still a med student, I don't think it's unreasonable to think that many of those barriers will be at least different, if not partially dissolved, by the time it will be relevant.

Much of this will depend on what DSM-V calls problem eating.

Right now, it's not clear that a psychiatrist will have too many tools available that a dietician, a social worker, or an NP wouldn't have. But I would expect and hope that would be much less true in the near future.
 
Tax fast foods. If we cut obesity in half in the US, I think we would come closer to solving our health care issues. We already are taxing cigarettes to the point that people are cutting back due to lack of funds and high prices for drags. Simply put, if the food item is X% of saturated fat, it automatically has a 15% tax added onto it. I can hear it already; the lower class claiming that it's discrimination because they can only afford McDonald's, Wendy's, KFC, etc. This is simply not true. Go to the grocery store and buy healthier items, which are more often than not, less expensive.
 
There was a lot of science explained in the TLC show I mentioned. Some theories as to why some people just really let themselves go in morbid obesity were that there were some psycholgoical factors that lead to people becoming morbidly obese. These factors are being studied by psychologists in the show. Others were that the amount of leptins being released increased more & more with the ever increasing size of the fat cells in their body.

It really is a shame IMHO how little medical treatment seems to treat obesity given how much of a problem it is. It really is a complex and multidisciplinary issue and managed care, the old "give them a pill" model doesn't seem to compatible with treating it in several people.

I've considered starting something that could work with helping people lose weight, but because of the lack of managed care structure on this, that there is no real psychiatric standard saying its our field's problem, and that diet is a very broad and multifaceted aspect that we are often times not qualified to handle, I dropped the idea. All these problems open up the risks of practice not being evidenced based, opening the risk of lawsuits, and payment problems.

At the eating disorder clinic where I worked, the psychiatrist's role was at least IMHO somewhat limited. For example, very few meds work on eating disorders and with very limited benefits. The real progress was often times made with psychotherapy that could have taken months to years to create a benefit. The psychaitrist would try one pill, it was given a few weeks, it wouldn't work, and then they just tried others, without more success. Some of them were given for reasons which most would on the surface wouldn't even expect to work...e.g. "she thinks she's overweight but she's not, that's delusional, give her an antipsychotic-Stellazine". Yeah well as we know, there really isn't much of a psychotic aspect to eating disorders. The psychiatrist even knew this (believe me these psychiatrists where I worked at knew their stuff), but on their end every other med was tried. These weren't 1st, 2nd or even 3rd line. I'm talking maybe the 10th med that was tried. Managed care would also argue that meds had to be given or they weren't paying for the inpatient stay. Another irony because once these patients were discharged, they lost weight to dangerous levels, but managed care wanted them out of there the day their weight was within an ideal range.

And it was the psychologists, not the psychiatrists doing the psychotherapy. That I found odd because if the psychiatrist wass the head of the treatment team-well its really the psychologist that's making the most difference.
 
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And it was the psychologists, not the psychiatrists doing the psychotherapy. That I found odd because if the psychiatrist wass the head of the treatment team-well its really the psychologist that's making the most difference.

Kinda like the captain of the cruise liner takes a lessor role to the ships plummer when all the toilets stop up, lol!
 
While some people are appalled, I feel for them so that's why I want to help them. Thanks for the replies.

Being appalled doesn't mean you don't want to help. It can spur you to further action. Just FYI. I'm appalled at the way returning soldiers are treated so I'm trying to do what little I can.
 
I'm thinking a place for weight loss should have a dietician, fitness instructor, psychologist (obviously who specializes in this), & a primary care doctor calling the shots. A bariatric surgeon & a psychiatrist should be available for consult.

Ironic, but I sometimes find the local gym, I'm talking the modern ones, not the one you'd see in a movie like the original Rocky, doing more for preventative health & well being than the primary care doctor. At a modern gym you can get workshops on diet, excercise education, measures of your excercise tolerance among several other things.

I think western medicine's lack of action on obesity is a big failing on our part. Its such a major cause of so many of the medical problems we have.
 
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From what I've seen, the Motivational Interviewing literature and almost EVERYTHING that dieticians do are in absolute conflict with one another. I'm firmly convinced that, with only few exceptions, dieticians do very little in most instances other than create further resistance when targeting obesity outside of hospital cafeterias and nursing home. They certainly have roles in very specific instances.

Whatever the answer is, unless the entire field of dietetics makes a huge about face and becomes a group of qualified counselors rather than obsessive-compulsive pedants, dieticians will play only a minimal role. And that's REALLY unfortunate.