QR cut off for dental programs

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Hello all! My dat scores are PAT-20,RC-18,ORGO-20,GEN-26, BIO-23,QR-14.. Does anyone know which programs would have a cut off for the QR? Am I okay with this? All the other parts of my application are solid. Been looking into Minnesota, Colorado, Creighton, Iowa, Oregon, Washington, louisville, Kentucky, etc

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Lot’s of schools have a minimum of 15 or 16 (depends on the school) to even qualify. I won’t say you’re screwed since gen chem, bio, and o-chem are nice, some schools might over look it, but I would be keeping retaking the DAT in the back of my mind.
 
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Hello all! My dat scores are PAT-20,RC-18,ORGO-20,GEN-26, BIO-23,QR-14.. Does anyone know which programs would have a cut off for the QR? Am I okay with this? All the other parts of my application are solid. Been looking into Minnesota, Colorado, Creighton, Iowa, Oregon, Washington, louisville, Kentucky, etc

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what are your gpas, TS and AA?
 

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22TS, 20AA, 3.8 GPA, 3.4-.6 sGPA.. 100+ shadowing hours, 80 volunteer hours, 2500+ patient care experience, 2000+ research hours

what is your state of residence? are you URM?
 

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Not all schools have cut offs, but I would inquire w/ individual schools. QR 14 is unfortunately quite low and you are taking a pretty big gamble not retaking it. I would not have recommended an applicant for an interview with that score when I was on the admissions committee.
 

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Believe me, schools don’t care about your QR score. They know it’s the most random part of the exam. If a particular school states on their website that they have a QR score minimum, then you’re doing the right thing by emailing them to find out if they will still consider your application. After emailing them, if they urge you to still apply, they’re basically saying that they could care less about the low score and would consider you for a spot in their program lol
 

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I'm gonna give you 2 advices. First one being what you want to hear. Second being my honest opinion.

First: QR doesn't matter much bro. You'll be fine. You will get in somewhere with that stats for sure so don't worry about it.

Second: When I hear people say QR doesn't matter much, I think of score ranging like 16-18 (maybe 15). Your 14 QR is very questionable and will raise a major red flag. Some schools will overlook that, a lot won't. That being said, you should apply anyway. You only need 1 acceptance. Other than the 14QR, other aspects are competitive. The school list is great. Shoot your shot!
 

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Right for sure! You say my school list from another post? I know it definitely looks bad but I'm confident enough my knowledge that I know a 14 isn't representative..of course I can't really prove that to the schools but looking at my transcripts, one should be able to gather Im capable.. And if I don't get accepted I'll retake it and reapply next year but I'd have to wait 3 months starting now
Nah, don't retake this cycle. Just apply. If you're really worried about the 14QR, cast a wider net. Apply to 20+ schools.
 

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In my opinion, make sure you apply to all of your state schools, and apply to some private schools or others that are “Out of State friendly,” as safety schools. The way you determine which are OOS friendly is use the “ADEA guide to dental schools” (from any recent year) and determine how many seats in their class they took from your state. It actually tends not to change much year over year. And definitely cast a wider net, I applied to 14 schools as a competitive applicant. Still, you could submit your adsas app to schools this cycle, then could take the DAT again, and post your improved scores at the “academic update” in adsas which occurs a few months after you submit your app, if you were up to taking the test again to improve your score.
 

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What state are you from? And what are the numbers you listed next to the state abbreviations?
 

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Here I found an old copy, look over pages 47-49 to understand what I’m talking about when I say OOS friendly:


You could cross check these numbers againist the newest adea guide, which would give you more data. You might also look back to the previous/following pages of the link I provided, looking at the other statistical information for that year for each a school. It can give you some basis as to what schools you might apply for.
 

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Here I found an old copy, look over pages 47-49 to understand what I’m talking about when I say OOS friendly:


You could cross check these numbers againist the newest adea guide, which would give you more data. You might also look back to the previous/following pages of the link I provided, looking at the other statistical information for that year for each a school. It can give you some basis as to what schools you might apply for.

I'm from ND..abbreviations don't have any meaning, its just the state they're in and the 01 or 02 was the order of schools in that state... But I've pulled these schools from data that are OOS friendly.. All my scores DAT/GPA/sGPA, with the exception of my QR is above their mean acceptance numbers
 
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Lol not so worried I'd spend $5k on applications.. Planning on 8-12.. But you saw the list of my schools? Were my top choices realistic?
Are the *** on your list mean top choice? if yes, they're realistic. I actually interviewed at a bunch of schools on your list and currently attending one of the. PM me if you have questions.
 
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I'm from ND..abbreviations don't have any meaning, its just the state they're in and the 01 or 02 was the order of schools in that state... But I've pulled these schools from data that are OOS friendly.. All my scores DAT/GPA/sGPA, with the exception of my QR is above their mean acceptance numbers

Then that should be a good list!
 

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Gotcha. Yeah apply to your top choices. You might consider supplementing with some safety schools (based on OOS friendly) from the second choice list. I aimed to apply to 15 schools because I didn’t feel confident, but might have been overkill. The way I saw it, better to spend the extra $ and over-apply the first time and get ahead on my career one year earlier by getting in somewhere, so I applied to 14. Most schools have supplemental apps you have to submit in order to be considered reviewable by those schools, so in fairness to yourself submit the supplemental apps to your first choice schools first, followed by the second choice schools supplementals.
 

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Unless the school has a notoriously early interview date, such as midwestern. Made that mistake haha
 
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