Question about a Test Question

[Sparda29]

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Right, so I had a Pharmaceutics exam last week and one of the questions was a calculations question. Basically, the first part of the question you had to find K.

And then there were other variables that you had to figure out based on lab reports of a drug, such as Vd, clearance, etc.

So for this question, if I calculated K wrong, would I or should I be graded wrong for the entire question, even if I got the other variables correct based on my incorrect K value.

Back when I had physiology in undergrad, the professor would say, the following case study applies to Questions 1-5. She gave a set of symptoms and you had to pick what disease that was for Question 1. Now, let's say you picked the wrong disease on Question 1. She would grade you correct if you picked other corresponding things for the incorrect disease for questions 2-5.

 

[SpirivaSunrise]

Right, so I had a Pharmaceutics exam last week and one of the questions was a calculations question. Basically, the first part of the question you had to find K.

And then there were other variables that you had to figure out based on lab reports of a drug, such as Vd, clearance, etc.

So for this question, if I calculated K wrong, would I or should I be graded wrong for the entire question, even if I got the other variables correct based on my incorrect K value.

Back when I had physiology in undergrad, the professor would say, the following case study applies to Questions 1-5. She gave a set of symptoms and you had to pick what disease that was for Question 1. Now, let's say you picked the wrong disease on Question 1. She would grade you correct if you picked other corresponding things for the incorrect disease for questions 2-5.

How would you explain to a patient:

Yes, I ultimately calculated your dose wrong, and as a result you've permanently lost your hearing. But I only messed up on the first step of the calculation. I swear I got steps 2 - 5 correct based on that value!

 

[ValeRx]

How would you explain to a patient:

Yes, I ultimately calculated your dose wrong, and as a result you've permanently lost your hearing. But I only messed up on the first step of the calculation. I swear I got steps 2 - 5 correct based on that value!

This would all be written on a piece of paper the patient was reading, I assume.

 

[ItsOverZyvox]

CV Surgeon: Hi Mr. Jones, how do yo feel today?

Mr. Jones: Doc...my chest pain is still there.

CV Surgeon: Well, Mr. Jones, I have some good news and bad news.

Mr. Jones: Oh no...

CV Surgeon: Your quadruple bypass surgery went ok except one of the bypasses were done on the wrong position. But the other 3 bypasses were done correctly. And after all, your post-op progress is fantastic!!

 

[SpirivaSunrise]

This would all be written on a piece of paper the patient was reading, I assume.

😛 Exactly. Unless you both learn sign language really quickly.

My point is, we're not working on people's cars here. This is serious stuff...not just changing out spark plugs.

Learn to do it right. What sense is it if a prof hands out A's to everyone when they technically got 90% of the exam wrong? And giving the student a false sense of confidence that they can actually do the calculations correctly?

 

[SpirivaSunrise]

This would all be written on a piece of paper the patient was reading, I assume.

Xavier!!! Today at 2:30!! 😀😉

 

[ValeRx]

Xavier!!! Today at 2:30!! 😀😉

I guess I should root for them since they are actually closer to me than UC is... but just by 2 miles.

 

[SpirivaSunrise]

I guess I should root for them since they are actually closer to me than UC is... but just by 2 miles.

Congrats on getting into UK! I hadn't noticed that until now; not sure if that's a recent development or not.

 

[ValeRx]

Congrats on getting into UK! I hadn't noticed that until now; not sure if that's a recent development or not.

Thanks! No, it's pretty old. I've known since December but I'm really waiting on UC. Out-of-state tuition in Kentucky is absolutely ridiculous!

 

[naseuy]

Right, so I had a Pharmaceutics exam last week and one of the questions was a calculations question. Basically, the first part of the question you had to find K.

And then there were other variables that you had to figure out based on lab reports of a drug, such as Vd, clearance, etc.

So for this question, if I calculated K wrong, would I or should I be graded wrong for the entire question, even if I got the other variables correct based on my incorrect K value.

Back when I had physiology in undergrad, the professor would say, the following case study applies to Questions 1-5. She gave a set of symptoms and you had to pick what disease that was for Question 1. Now, let's say you picked the wrong disease on Question 1. She would grade you correct if you picked other corresponding things for the incorrect disease for questions 2-5.

Right, so what's your question?

 

[Sparda29]

My question is, do you guys think I'm gonna be graded wrong or right? I'm gonna guess wrong.

Grr, I hate it when these questions aren't separated out.

 

[codep1nk]

My question is, do you guys think I'm gonna be graded wrong or right? I'm gonna guess wrong.

Grr, I hate it when these questions aren't separated out.

That will depend on your prof.

 

[Old Timer]

Well let me inject a note of reality here. If the test is multiple choice then your answer is either right or wrong.

If this is a blue book (do they still use those?) or other type of exam where you turn in your work, then I would think you should get partial credit for using the data you had and applying the formula correctly.

School is supposed to be a learning experience so when you get out in the real world, you don't kill anyone.

I have a huge gripe with testing. The purpose is to test your knowledge and and identify the areas where your are less proficient. Too many teachers think the test is the end of something when it really should be the middle. They are so lazy they confiscate the exams so they don't have to make new ones each year. In my view the exam should be returned and the questions you got wrong should be highlighted and you should receive an evaluation of your weaknesses so you can improve.

 

[The Fargoan]

Our professor made it clear before we took the test that if you did the work correctly with a Keq that was originally calculated wrong you would only lose points on the first part. But we showed every calculation (not multiple choice) so he could see where our errors started.

 

[67echo]

Right, so I had a Pharmaceutics exam last week and one of the questions was a calculations question. Basically, the first part of the question you had to find K.

And then there were other variables that you had to figure out based on lab reports of a drug, such as Vd, clearance, etc.

So for this question, if I calculated K wrong, would I or should I be graded wrong for the entire question, even if I got the other variables correct based on my incorrect K value.

Back when I had physiology in undergrad, the professor would say, the following case study applies to Questions 1-5. She gave a set of symptoms and you had to pick what disease that was for Question 1. Now, let's say you picked the wrong disease on Question 1. She would grade you correct if you picked other corresponding things for the incorrect disease for questions 2-5.

It's amazing how you love to skirt responsibility for your actions...Its either all right or all wrong. You don't half kill a patient. So yes, if your K is wrong, the whole answer is wrong.

 

[Fuzzychickens]

I don't think any of my professors give partial credit for questions.

Pharmacy school should be harder...thin out some of the people who are clearly not taking things seriously.

I don't think people who decide to cram 3 weeks of material into an all-nighter before the exam should be rewarded with even a C. I have 2 professors who actually make the tests hard enough that cramming will earn you a fat F. We need more of that.

Dumbing down the profession won't help us in the long run.

 

[Sparda29]

Well let me inject a note of reality here. If the test is multiple choice then your answer is either right or wrong.

If this is a blue book (do they still use those?) or other type of exam where you turn in your work, then I would think you should get partial credit for using the data you had and applying the formula correctly.

School is supposed to be a learning experience so when you get out in the real world, you don't kill anyone.

I have a huge gripe with testing. The purpose is to test your knowledge and and identify the areas where your are less proficient. Too many teachers think the test is the end of something when it really should be the middle. They are so lazy they confiscate the exams so they don't have to make new ones each year. In my view the exam should be returned and the questions you got wrong should be highlighted and you should receive an evaluation of your weaknesses so you can improve.

It was a mix. We had like 14 multiple choice questions, and a few calculations questions where work had to be shown. I contacted the professor, and apparently if I got part A wrong but part B,C,D,E,F,G were correct based on the incorrect Part A, I'd only get graded wrong for the initial calculation.

That's the one thing that annoys me, confiscating exams. Our professors allow us to go to their office to review them, but do they really want me to sit in their office for 2 hours going over the exam?