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Ok I have sunk to the level of the Pre-Allo forum I so often jest of ...

I do have a question for people out there though. I haven't taken science classes in a while (7 years) so is taking
ochem I, Physics I (non-calc), and Micro with taking 2 grad level classes for my MBA too much? I'm not worried about the MBA classes but I can't believe the amount of class time required for lecture/labs!!

Any suggestions?

Also did anyone take genetics simultaneously with Ochem 2? It says prereq but I'd like to take it prior to MCAT in April/Aug! Thanks!
 
mshheaddoc said:
Ok I have sunk to the level of the Pre-Allo forum I so often jest of ...

I do have a question for people out there though. I haven't taken science classes in a while (7 years) so is taking
ochem I, Physics I (non-calc), and Micro with taking 2 grad level classes for my MBA too much? I'm not worried about the MBA classes but I can't believe the amount of class time required for lecture/labs!!

Any suggestions?

Also did anyone take genetics simultaneously with Ochem? It says prereq but I'd like to take it prior to MCAT in April/Aug! Thanks!

Welcome to every semester of my life. Biology/Chemistry major, I have taken at least three lab classes a semester if not four. I did take O-chem, genetics, physics all the same semester. If you are a serious student, like most are that want to attend med school, you can do it.
 
You don't really need to take Genetics before the MCAT. Even if they ask a couple of genetics questions on the MCAT, you should be prepared for them by studying with a Kaplan book. Ochem, physics, and micro together may be pushing it a little, but you can do it if you are determined. Trying to take genetics on top of all that is asking for trouble. Sometimes less is more. You want to get all A's in your prereqs and it shouldn't be a problems as long as you have the time to devote to studying. If you have too many classes, you might end up with multiple exams on the same day, so be careful. Also, withdrawing from a class is not a good option, so try not to bite off more than you can chew.
 
mshheaddoc said:
Ok I have sunk to the level of the Pre-Allo forum I so often jest of ...

I do have a question for people out there though. I haven't taken science classes in a while (7 years) so is taking
ochem I, Physics I (non-calc), and Micro with taking 2 grad level classes for my MBA too much? I'm not worried about the MBA classes but I can't believe the amount of class time required for lecture/labs!!

Any suggestions?

Also did anyone take genetics simultaneously with Ochem 2? It says prereq but I'd like to take it prior to MCAT in April/Aug! Thanks!


If you can afford to spread the classes out a bit more, that would probably be good. Jumping back into science after 7 years might be a bit of an adjustment and it could be really rough with O-Chem, Physics and Micro, especially on top of your grad classes! It's more important to do well in the classes than it is to get them done sooner (unless cost and finishing more quickly are incredibly crucial). I would suggest doing O-Chem I and Physics I since they are part of two-sequence courses and saving the Micro for later (or not at all, unless you are dying to take it...). A whole Genetics class probably isn't necessary for the MCAT, but it would be do-able with O-Chem II (if you can get the pre-req waived by taking concurrently).
 
mshheaddoc said:
thanks for the responses. I would try to take genetics and ochem 2 simultaneously but ochem is a pre-req ... any idea why? lol.

If it is an intro genetics class I don't see why you would need to take O Chem (although it would be somewhat useful).

If it is an in depth genetics class than you would need O Chem to understand the biochemistry involved. Genetics without biochemistry is bull$h!t.

Oh yeah, genetics would be useful for the mcat (not only for the mendelian stuff, but for dna replication, transription, and translation, you go over that in a lot more detail in genetics, not that you need the detial for the mcat but you will be a lot more solid in those areas after taking genetics).

Three science classes at a time isnt that bad if you think the MBA classes would be easy, but if you don't have to do it that way why make it harder on yourself.

7500+ posts and havent taken MCAT yet?
 
Elphie and iamgoaloriented,

thanks!

Well, first off, yes I have well over 7500 posts of nonsense and haven't taken MCATs. I'm a waste of space 🙂 And avid poster at times. I just recently decided to def go back ... did business industry for 4 years. Plus hang out in the lounge enough and sometimes you can post for hours back and forth. Thank god PM's don't count 😱

As for genetics - I'm guessing its indepth genetics b/c they require 2 sems of ochem.

As for classes - I'm trying to sort out my schedule, granted its well in advance ... I'm taking Bio I and Bio II over the summer. Right now I work full time and take 4 grad classes (yes I'm crazy) and I'm barely above water. I don't see 3 classes being bad and 2 MBA classes, except for one of the MBA class is my thesis/seminar class. But I will not be working except maybe part-time somewhere for money (ie stripper/prostitute). I'm trying to take the necessary classes in preparation for the MCAT and micro seems like a good combo for that (plus its the only available class that doesn't require ochem to be completed) unless I took phys or something along those lines. Should I pass on the micro? Granted my schedule would look something like this

Monday: off
Tuesday:
Class 8-9 ochem,
Class 930-1050 ochem,
class 11-1220 Micro,
Class 3-420 Physics
Class 6-840

Wednesday:
Lab Ochem 9-12
??? Ochem 1215-115
Lab Micro 120-420

Thurs:
Class 930-1050 ochem,
class 11-1220 Micro,
Class 3-420 Physics
Class 6-840

Friday:
Lab Physics 9-12

ALOT OF LAB! I didn't realize how much all for a 4 credit class! But it seems doable just hellish exam days ... I am superwoman though ... just confused 🙁
 
Sounds like quite a load you have there.

Micro is definitely not necessary. Seeing that I didn't take it though, I can't say for sure how useful it would or wouldn't be (my guess is that in your case it would be more trouble than it is worth, unless you are really interested in taking it).

The most useful classes for MCAT in addition to the required pre med classes are physiology, genetics, and biochem. You will definitely be better off if you can take these classes as long as you don't get ridiculously stressed and it effects your grades.
 
I took physics 2, orgo 1, and bio 2 in the same semester while studying for the MCAT. It's doable. Are you planning to take the MCAT in August? You don't really need anything more than the basics. I don't recommend microbio, as the MCAT sciences are heavily human based. Actually, I don't think you need any of the upper level bios -- I mean, the biology on the MCAT is only half of one of the three sections, is it really worth taking three extra, difficult classes to prepare for it a smidgen better? You can get all the bio you need from intro bio and a prep book (I prefer ExamKrackers).
 
mshheaddoc said:
Ok I have sunk to the level of the Pre-Allo forum I so often jest of ...

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I think for the MCAT instead of Genetic, you should really go for Physiology, it would be more helpful. Orgo is a must and so is Cell Biology (Is that what you meant by Micro?) Orgo is hard for some, but easy for other. I TA for OrgoI/II and I think it is a very manageable class as long as you can memorize (make sense out of it when you need, but I don't think there is much to make sense out. Just some of the basic fundamentals that you really need to worry about, but all rnx are essentially the same just one massive mess of arrows and electrons). 😍

Good luck with your thing and welcome to Pre-med.... We all hate it!!! :laugh:
 
mshheaddoc said:
stop stalking me. 😛 go get laid or something.

I was thinking that one would lead to the other.
 
DrHopeless said:
I think for the MCAT instead of Genetic, you should really go for Physiology, it would be more helpful. Orgo is a must and so is Cell Biology (Is that what you meant by Micro?) Orgo is hard for some, but easy for other. I TA and I think it is a very manageable class as long as you can memorize (make sense out of it when you need, but I don't think there is much to make sense out. Just some of the basic fundamentals that you really need to worry about, but all rnx are essentially the same just one massive mess of arrows and electrons). 😍

Good luck with your thing and welcome to Pre-med.... We all hate it!!! :laugh:

GENERAL MICROBIOLOGY (3) Prerequisites: 50:120:101,102.

Structure and behavior of bacteria as well as selected fungi, algae, protozoa, and viruses; microbial genetics; microbial ecology

and biotechnology; principles of immunity and disease.
That sounds interesting and def something to use in med school for an overview? We have a cell biology class and a molecular biology class as well.

I guess that is what I'm looking for, two things: What classes should I take for MCAT and what classes should I take for med school? I can't take them all and I will only have 2 years to get all these classes in (hopefully).

Not too concerned with anatomy, might take a physio course, but I'm just concerned with what I should be taking like everyone else. *sigh* And I haven't even applied to the school yet .... lol. I'm becoming a gunner.
 
I think that micro is a good class to take for a preview of medschool, but don't worry about taking it for the MCAT. I'm taking it now during my application year and it is really interesting to learn about all of the diseases and how they are caused by bacteria and viruses. However, it will not help you on the MCAT in my opinion.
 
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