Question about orthopedic surgery

[hs2013]

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What is the route to become an orthopedic surgeon?

Is it 4 years med school
1 year internal medicine residency
4 year orthopedic residency
????

Also do you get paid during the residencies, and if so how much?

 

[LaCroix09]

What is the route to become an orthopedic surgeon?

Is it 4 years med school
1 year internal medicine residency
4 year orthopedic residency
????

Also do you get paid during the residencies, and if so how much?

I'm pretty sure someone will direct you to Google, but I'll go ahead and give you the answer anyways.

It's 4 years med school,
5 years ortho residency,
fellowship (optional) to further specialize.

You do get paid during residency. The amount goes up throughout your stay, typically starting at $40-$50k and going up slightly from there. This varies a lot based on where you are doing your residency, I believe. It can be much higher or a little lower than this.

 

[BABSstudent]

4 years undergrad
4 years medical school
5 years orthopedic residency (includes 1 year gen surg and 4 years ortho)

Pay during residency is low. Here is an example with source below.

PGY I $ 48,548
PGY 2 $ 50,885
PGY 3 $ 53,016
PGY 4 $ 55,347

The pay increases a little over $2,000 per year of residency. Source for pay:
http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/emergencymedicine/residency/benefits/

Edit: LaCroix09 beat me to it.

 

[Lucidity]

What is the route to become an orthopedic surgeon?

Is it 4 years med school
1 year internal medicine residency
4 year orthopedic residency
????

Also do you get paid during the residencies, and if so how much?

4 years med school
5 years ortho residency

You get paid but how much is dependent upon the program and it isn't much think about 42K.

 

[hs2013]

Thanks guys!

 

[CrimsonKing]

Keep in mind it's really going to be 6 years after medical school: the vast majority of orthopedic surgeons will complete a 1-year fellowship after residency is over.

 

[hs2013]

Keep in mind it's really going to be 6 years after medical school: the vast majority of orthopedic surgeons will complete a 1-year fellowship after residency is over.

Why is that?

 

[Lucidity]

Why is that?

Fellowships allow for further specialization and for most academic posts it is almost a requirement.

 

[Law2Doc]

What is the route to become an orthopedic surgeon?

Is it 4 years med school
1 year internal medicine residency
4 year orthopedic residency
????

Also do you get paid during the residencies, and if so how much?

1. Go to the gym.
2. Get a varsity letter in something.
3. Bench press at least 110% your weight. Squat at least twice your weight. Run at least one marathon while in college.
4. Blow out a knee and spend the rest of your college career taping up the schools "real" athletes.
5. 4 years of med school; sports on tv in the background 24/7. Ace everything and win your fantasy football pool each year.
6. Five years of residency. At some places the first year is Gen surg. Get good at working with plaster.
7. Possible 1 year fellowship in a specific joint.
That's pretty much the gist.

 

[MedPR]

1. Go to the gym.
2. Get a varsity letter in something.
3. Bench press at least 110% your weight. Squat at least twice your weight. Run at least one marathon while in college.
4. Blow out a knee and spend the rest of your college career taping up the schools "real" athletes.
5. 4 years of med school; sports on tv in the background 24/7. Ace everything and win your fantasy football pool each year.
6. Five years of residency. At some places the first year is Gen surg. Get good at working with plaster.
7. Possible 1 year fellowship in a specific joint.
That's pretty much the gist.

 

[FSU2013]

1. Go to the gym.
2. Get a varsity letter in something.
3. Bench press at least 110% your weight. Squat at least twice your weight. Run at least one marathon while in college.
4. Blow out a knee and spend the rest of your college career taping up the schools "real" athletes.
5. 4 years of med school; sports on tv in the background 24/7. Ace everything and win your fantasy football pool each year.
6. Five years of residency. At some places the first year is Gen surg. Get good at working with plaster.
7. Possible 1 year fellowship in a specific joint.
That's pretty much the gist.

Nice. My best friend is going I to ortho and would love this.

 

[Chip N Sawbones]

1. Go to the gym.
2. Get a varsity letter in something.
3. Bench press at least 110% your weight. Squat at least twice your weight. Run at least one marathon while in college.
4. Blow out a knee and spend the rest of your college career taping up the schools "real" athletes.
5. 4 years of med school; sports on tv in the background 24/7. Ace everything and win your fantasy football pool each year.
6. Five years of residency. At some places the first year is Gen surg. Get good at working with plaster.
7. Possible 1 year fellowship in a specific joint.
That's pretty much the gist.

I can't do the bench press thing, I can't squat once times my weight, and I only run when there's free pizza involved. In fact, the only exercise program I participate in is a rigorous set of 12-ounce curls every night. However, I do own three clawhammers, two framing hammers and a six pound sledgehammer. Since I clearly have the necessary tools for orthopedics, will this plus medical school provide an alternate route to an ortho residency?

 

[FSU2013]

I can't do the bench press thing, I can't squat once times my weight, and I only run when there's free pizza involved. In fact, the only exercise program I participate in is a rigorous set of 12-ounce curls every night. However, I do own three clawhammers, two framing hammers and a six pound sledgehammer. Since I clearly have the necessary tools for orthopedics, will this plus medical school provide an alternate route to an ortho residency?

Sounds like you'd fit in just fine with my friends and I who are going into EM.

 

[WorksInProgress]

I can't do the bench press thing, I can't squat once times my weight, and I only run when there's free pizza involved. In fact, the only exercise program I participate in is a rigorous set of 12-ounce curls every night. However, I do own three clawhammers, two framing hammers and a six pound sledgehammer. Since I clearly have the necessary tools for orthopedics, will this plus medical school provide an alternate route to an ortho residency?

If its a pair of 32oz. Otherwise off to fm or psych with you. Only manly men who can sink a nail in two hits allowed.

 

[Chip N Sawbones]

I can sink a nail in two hits with my 24 oz framing hammer. It's not the size of the tool, it's how hard you slam it down.







At least that's what she said last night.

 

[deleted393595]

1. Go to the gym.
2. Get a varsity letter in something.
3. Bench press at least 110% your weight. Squat at least twice your weight. Run at least one marathon while in college.
4. Blow out a knee and spend the rest of your college career taping up the schools "real" athletes.
5. 4 years of med school; sports on tv in the background 24/7. Ace everything and win your fantasy football pool each year.
6. Five years of residency. At some places the first year is Gen surg. Get good at working with plaster.
7. Possible 1 year fellowship in a specific joint.
That's pretty much the gist.

Also, be sure to get a neusuR score over 600 (Bench + Step I combined). But then again, that may just get your foot in the door for a low level ortho residency.

 

[Josh7]

Also, be sure to get a neusuR score over 600 (Bench + Step I combined). But then again, that may just get your foot in the door for a low level ortho residency.

I can't stress this enough. You're going to ideally want 625 (unless your BF% is like cray low). I have heard stories of ortho prospects getting rejected pre-tryout with neusuR scores of 603.

 

[45408]

I can't do the bench press thing, I can't squat once times my weight, and I only run when there's free pizza involved. In fact, the only exercise program I participate in is a rigorous set of 12-ounce curls every night. However, I do own three clawhammers, two framing hammers and a six pound sledgehammer. Since I clearly have the necessary tools for orthopedics, will this plus medical school provide an alternate route to an ortho residency?

bro

 

[hs2013]

So you would be like 32 when you actually start working as an orthopedic surgeon?

 

[notbobtrustme]

1. Go to the gym.
2. Get a varsity letter in something.
3. Bench press at least 110% your weight. Squat at least twice your weight. Run at least one marathon while in college.
4. Blow out a knee and spend the rest of your college career taping up the schools "real" athletes.
5. 4 years of med school; sports on tv in the background 24/7. Ace everything and win your fantasy football pool each year.
6. Five years of residency. At some places the first year is Gen surg. Get good at working with plaster.
7. Possible 1 year fellowship in a specific joint.
That's pretty much the gist.

The best advice about matching into ortho is Step I + Bench > 600.

BTW, you wouldn't believe how accurate the stereotypes about ortho gunners are.

edit: damnit, someone already beat me to this gem.

 

[deleted357625]

So you would be like 32 when you actually start working as an orthopedic surgeon?

the average age of actually becoming a doc is 31+

 

[FSU2013]

bro

hahaha, this thread makes me happy.

Prowler, you're in GS, right?

 

[45408]

yessir

 

[daviomaron]

It's not the size of the tool, it's how hard you slam it down.

 

[Chip N Sawbones]

So you would be like 32 when you actually start working as an orthopedic surgeon?

That's nothing to complain about. I'll be a month shy of 40 by the time I'm done with an ortho residency.

 

[hs2013]

^^^^ did you start med school later or what?

So start at 32, make bank for 8 years, save most of it, work part-time for 10 years, and then retire at 50 with boatloads of cash in hand? Sounds like a good plan...?

 

[Mwbaseball93]

If the average orthopedic surgeon works around 55-60 hours, does that mean they have to work on the weekends?

 

[ScholarStud]

^^^^ did you start med school later or what?

So start at 32, make bank for 8 years, save most of it, work part-time for 10 years, and then retire at 50 with boatloads of cash in hand? Sounds like a good plan...?

No, that sounds horrible. You would be a damn fool for going into any career just to retire comfortably.

 

[Law2Doc]

If the average orthopedic surgeon works around 55-60 hours, does that mean they have to work on the weekends?

Not sure if that average is accurate, and is certainly an unrealistically low estimate for early in your career. Most practices have some form of call system so yes there will be some nights and weekends you are on for ortho emergencies.

 

[Law2Doc]

^^^^ did you start med school later or what?

So start at 32, make bank for 8 years, save most of it, work part-time for 10 years, and then retire at 50 with boatloads of cash in hand? Sounds like a good plan...?

No. The amount of work you put in is oppressive if your goal is just to quickly retire. Its a five year, long houred residency plus a fellowship before you start to see any sort of paycheck, and you probably won't be banking enough to live well for potentially another 40 years of retirement in your first eight years of practice, and won't find many practices that want to keep you on part time over the guy willing to do the extra call. Nobody retires at 50 anymore. You do this kind of job because you love it or not at all. And since you love it you milk it for as long a career as you can before you can't.

 

[notbobtrustme]

No, that sounds horrible. You would be a damn fool for going into any career just to retire comfortably.

Well, certain careers certainly can pay that kind of money to retire at 50; medicine is not one of them.

However, the people who tend to get into those kinds of careers (ibanking, management) are also type-A *******s who love working and so they rarely retire at 50 anyways despite having enough wealth to do so. Suffice to say, if you're thinking of entering such a field and retiring at 50, you aren't driven enough to actually get there.

 

[Law2Doc]

Well, certain careers certainly can pay that kind of money to retire at 50; medicine is not one of them.

However, the people who tend to get into those kinds of careers (ibanking, management) are also type-A *******s who love working and so they rarely retire at 50 anyways despite having enough wealth to do so. Suffice to say, if you're thinking of entering such a field and retiring at 50, you aren't driven enough to actually get there.

Truth.

 

[Sophocles]

No. The amount of work you put in is oppressive if your goal is just to quickly retire. Its a five year, long houred residency plus a fellowship before you start to see any sort of paycheck, and you probably won't be banking enough to live well for potentially another 40 years of retirement in your first eight years of practice, and won't find many practices that want to keep you on part time over the guy willing to do the extra call. Nobody retires at 50 anymore. You do this kind of job because you love it or not at all. And since you love it you milk it for as long a career as you can before you can't.

I enjoyed reading this-especially the last part. I hope the way I feel about medicine now continues to grow way into my latter years.

 

[MiracleforMD]

Well, certain careers certainly can pay that kind of money to retire at 50; medicine is not one of them.

However, the people who tend to get into those kinds of careers (ibanking, management) are also type-A *******s who love working and so they rarely retire at 50 anyways despite having enough wealth to do so. Suffice to say, if you're thinking of entering such a field and retiring at 50, you aren't driven enough to actually get there.

Truth.

Lol. A bit of a generalization maybe?

 

[PreMedOrDead]

I can't squat once times my weight

 

[ChiDO]

If the average orthopedic surgeon works around 55-60 hours, does that mean they have to work on the weekends?

As a resident, I work an average of "80 hours" per week.

Most of the attendings work 6a-6p on average throughout the week (not including call).