Question concerning what counts as a "year" of a certain subject.

[F5F6]

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Physics in particular. Most pre-meds at my school take both college Physics 1 and 2 which totals to 10 hours as part of the General Bio degree plan, 2 more than required for most medical schools. However I'm taking all my pre-reqs post-degree out of pocket at same school. I had already completed an intro physics course, PHY 101 3hrs while working towards my bachelors and I'm completing College Physics I 5hrs now. Would I need to go ahead and take the last 5 hrs in College Physics II or have a completed my required year? Both were integrated lab\lecture courses as that's all that's offered here.

I called a few schools and they referred me to the application service who referred me back to the schools...

 

[baxt1412]

Have you looked at school's requirements? Some schools require labs for classes that others don't. If a school says they require 10 hours of physics, then they require 10 hours of physics and you will not meet their requirements.

Are you sure the 3 and 5 hours are semester hours? I know for me, I have a 5 credit hour class that is a trimester and I believe it counts as 3.3 semester hours. So it will depend on what your transcripts say as well (as they usually give the conversions)

 

[F5F6]

Thanks for reply. Both the PHY 101 and the College Physics were full half year semesters 3hrs then 5 hrs for a total of 8 according to transcript so no issue there. Almost all medical schools I'm looking at say either 8 hrs needed or a "year" As for the labs, they are integrated and I was assured by the dean that they would count as having labs no matter where I applied. That may not hold true but it's the only option I had as they don't offer separate labs.

I guess the question comes down to if Intro Physics and one course of College Physics satisfies the requirement.

 

[Aerus]

I would take Physics 1 and 2. When schools say a year of Physics, they mean General Physics.


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[Lucca]

8 hours and a year mean the same thing in a semester system. Traditionally, 6 hours of lecture and 2 hours of lab divided evenly amongst the two classes. However, if this distribution were 3 and 5 hours - as it is at your school - well thats just fine too. If it were 3 hours of P1 and 3 of P2 and then 2 hours of lab then thats ok too.

 

[Goro]

Two separate courses, not including the labs. So Physics 1A (lecture) and 1B (lab) Plus Physics 2A + 2B would be a year in my book. Figure 8 credits worth on the semester system.

Physics in particular. Most pre-meds at my school take both college Physics 1 and 2 which totals to 10 hours as part of the General Bio degree plan, 2 more than required for most medical schools. However I'm taking all my pre-reqs post-degree out of pocket at same school. I had already completed an intro physics course, PHY 101 3hrs while working towards my bachelors and I'm completing College Physics I 5hrs now. Would I need to go ahead and take the last 5 hrs in College Physics II or have a completed my required year? Both were integrated lab\lecture courses as that's all that's offered here.

I called a few schools and they referred me to the application service who referred me back to the schools...

 

[Dr. Retractor]

Two separate courses, not including the labs. So Physics 1A (lecture) and 1B (lab) Plus Physics 2A + 2B would be a year in my book. Figure 8 credits worth on the semester system.

At some schools Physics lecture is 4 credits and lab is 1. So you can technically accomplish the "8-credit" requirement by just taking the lecture unless the school specifically requires labs for both Physics I and II.

Regarding the OP, I think a year is just 2 semesters of the class plus the labs, if applicable.

 

[Dr. Retractor]

I would take Physics 1 and 2. When schools say a year of Physics, they mean General Physics.


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Not to be rude but that's not true. No schools (to my knowledge) require Calculus-based physics to satisfy the physics requirement.

 

[Aerus]

Not to be rude but that's not true. No schools (to my knowledge) require Calculus-based physics to satisfy the physics requirement.

Not to be rude but I never said Calculus based Physics...


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[Dr. Retractor]

Not to be rude but I never said Calculus based Physics...


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General Physics = Calculus based physics; College Physics = Algebra based physics.

 

[Aerus]

General Physics = Calculus based physics; College Physics = Algebra based physics.

I'm sorry. I didn't know your school's nomenclature was the dominant stand all for everyone else in the country.

A lot of schools, including my own, call Algebra-based Physics as General Physics. My school's Calculus-based Physics is called "Physics for Engineers" and is what all the Physical Sciences, Engineers, and most of the Physics majors take. I've never heard the term "college Physics" before. In any case, I told the OP to take Physics 1 and 2. This is a quarrel over semantics between different schools anyways, which is pointless.

 

[Dr. Retractor]

I'm sorry. I didn't know your school's nomenclature was the dominant stand all for everyone else in the country.

A lot of schools, including my own, call Algebra-based Physics as General Physics. My school's Calculus-based Physics is called "Physics for Engineers" and is what all the Physical Sciences, Engineers, and most of the Physics majors take. I've never heard the term "college Physics" before. In any case, I told the OP to take Physics 1 and 2. This is a quarrel over semantics between different schools anyways, which is pointless.

Calm down. You're taking this out of context, and being caustic for no reason. I never said my school's "nomenclature was the dominant stand all for everyone else in the country". And it's not a "quarrel over semantics". I said what I did because some people who read your post might be misinformed because their school calls calculus based physics general physics.

 

[Aerus]

Calm down. You're taking this out of context, and being caustic for no reason. I never said my school's "nomenclature was the dominant stand all for everyone else in the country". And it's not a "quarrel over semantics". I said what I did because some people who read your post might be misinformed because their school calls calculus based physics general physics.

The typical "you disagree with me, so that makes you mad, so you need to calm down" back up. 🙄 You seem smart. Use those verbal analysis skills. What signs of tone did I actually use to symbolize "not being calm". Sarcasm? Welcome to the internet.

An "I'd like to clarify that some schools call Calculus-based Physics as General Physics" would have sufficed instead of automatically assuming that all General Physics means Calculus-based Physics.

 

[Dr. Retractor]

The typical "you disagree with me, so that makes you mad, so you need to calm down" back up. 🙄 You seem smart. Use those verbal analysis skills. What signs of tone did I actually use to symbolize "not being calm". Sarcasm? Welcome to the internet.

An "I'd like to clarify that some schools call Calculus-based Physics as General Physics" would have sufficed instead of automatically assuming that all General Physics means Calculus-based Physics.

Hey dude, I'm sorry I tried to clarify something you said, in a different way than you would have. I'm not sure why you assume that I assumed something I didn't or that I thought you were disagreeing with me, or that I'm dumb, or that I'm not good at verbal analysis. But according to you, I assumed something I shouldn't have and I guess you know better than I do because your GPA is so amazing and you go to such an amazing school. I have no doubt you have the ability to telepathically know what I am thinking better than me. You should put that on your app. You'll get in to all the schools you apply to. Good luck in your career, Sensei.

 

[Aerus]

Hey dude, I'm sorry I tried to clarify something you said, in a different way than you would have. I'm not sure why you assume that I assumed something I didn't or that I thought you were disagreeing with me, or that I'm not good at verbal analysis. But according to you, I assumed something I shouldn't have and I guess you know better than I do because your GPA is so amazing and you go to such an amazing school. I have no doubt you have the ability to telepathically know what I am thinking better than me. You should put that on your app. You'll get in to all the schools you apply to. Good luck in your career, Sensei.

Whoa, now you need to calm down. No need for this to get personal. I merely told you to stop reading everything I say in a way in which I did not imply AT ALL. If I say "Take Physics 1 and 2", that's what I mean. If I use sarcasm, it's to make a point. I never implied that you are bad at verbal or that I know what you're thinking.

BUT, you clearly, explicitly, and obviously assumed something instead of trying to clarify a possible misunderstanding:

Not to be rude but that's not true.

You clearly said that someone was wrong based solely on the fact that they go by a different nomenclature. You cannot simply change the premise of your whole argument retroactively just because you were wrong in your assumption. That's the risk in extreme assumptions and we all do this.

 

[Dr. Retractor]

Whoa, now you need to calm down. No need for this to get personal. I merely told you to stop reading everything I say in a way in which I did not imply AT ALL. If I say "Take Physics 1 and 2", that's what I mean. If I use sarcasm, it's to make a point. I never implied that you were bad at verbal or that I know what you're thinking.

BUT, you clearly, explicitly, and obviously assumed something instead of tried to clarify a possible misunderstanding:



You clearly said that someone was wrong based solely on the fact that they go by a different nomenclature. You cannot simply change the premise of your whole argument retroactively just because you were wrong in your assumption. That's the risk in extreme assumptions and we all do this.

As much as I'd absolutely love to continue this conversation with you, I've already made my point. So you're right, as always. Congratulations.

 

[raiderette]

So, OP, did your Intro to Physics class cover the same information as the class you are in now? In reviewing your physics classes did you cover Mechanics, Electromagnetism, Optics and Electricity? Or are you simply getting more in-depth information from your first class? I would think that if you don't take a part 2 you will miss one of the major points of physics.

 

[mehc012]

Hey dude, I'm sorry I tried to clarify something you said, in a different way than you would have. I'm not sure why you assume that I assumed something I didn't or that I thought you were disagreeing with me, or that I'm dumb, or that I'm not good at verbal analysis. But according to you, I assumed something I shouldn't have and I guess you know better than I do because your GPA is so amazing and you go to such an amazing school. I have no doubt you have the ability to telepathically know what I am thinking better than me. You should put that on your app. You'll get in to all the schools you apply to. Good luck in your career, Sensei.

You didn't try to clarify. You substituted his possibly-incorrect-due-to-individual-school-nomenclature phrasing with your own possibly-incorrect-due-to-individual-school-nomenclature phrasing, while being condescending in the process.