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Hello

This question is really for engineers or former engineers who switched to the medical route. So, I am currently a senior, pre-dental, considering switching TO engineering. I was just curious, for the engineers, what made you switch from engineering to medicine? And are you happy with your choice?
 
Hello

This question is really for engineers or former engineers who switched to the medical route. So, I am currently a senior, pre-dental, considering switching TO engineering. I was just curious, for the engineers, what made you switch from engineering to medicine? And are you happy with your choice?

There are already many many threads about us saying why we switched over into medicine or the hope of doing medicine one day.

Why switch into engineering? What do you want to do? What do you envision yourself doing as an engineer? What region of the country are you going to school in currently?
 
Well, considering that I always wanted to pursue medicine and engineering became a means to a quick means of income for my family; I have nothing good to say abt engineering. The job kept me from interacting with ppl and really was extremely boring. Also it was extremely competitive and since I was not in it 100%, I did not gain any self satisfaction.
Not sure why u chose dentistry in the first place, but you may be disappointed with engineering unless the points above are what u desire.
 
I still work in the engineering field (I am a computer engineer) and intend to until potentially getting accepted to medical school. If I do not get accepted to medical school after all options have been exhausted, I intend on continuing to work as an engineer.

I have nothing bad to say about the engineering field, really, aside from the loads of paperwork that I have to do too often. I make enough money to not have to worry about it daily, I feel like my expertise is at least moderately appreciated, and I get to bring my ideas into meatspace.

I am not unhappy as an engineer. I would definitely recommend the field to others. I think it can be very rewarding, overall. I think becoming an engineer has done a lot to improve my critical thinking and problem solving skills.

I can't say whether or not I am happy with my decision to switch careers as I am only a couple semesters in on my remaining med school prereqs. My desire to become a doctor has been with me for almost as long as I can remember, so it's not a 'one is better than the other' scenario. I'd also like to add here that, even if I had planned on becoming a Dr from the beginning (I had always wanted to, but never thought I could) I still would have probably gotten an engineering degree first (electrical or computer). Very interesting stuff.

I'm not sure what else to say on the subject, but if you have any questions that I can help with, I'm happy to answer anything.
 
Hello

This question is really for engineers or former engineers who switched to the medical route. So, I am currently a senior, pre-dental, considering switching TO engineering. I was just curious, for the engineers, what made you switch from engineering to medicine? And are you happy with your choice?

Paskim, get thee to a career counselor.

Yeah, I'm happy with my decision. But...Once an engineer - always an engineer. When did you start thinking about engineering? I have four brothers who are all engineers. I can't ever recall ANY of us ever sitting down and talking about or second-guessing our decisions to go into engineering. It was more of a fact. Note that my parents are NOT engineers and they didn't try an influence any of our decisions. I only applied to MIT and UMich college of Engineering when I was in high school. I just knew from the get-go that's what I was going to do. Mind you, my brothers and I are not the same at all. We don't really get along and we are all different kinds of engineers - BUT we are all still doing engineering (save possibly me currently in medical school until my research year begins).

I will continue to use engineering throughout my career (as a physician investigator). There is a Dilbert cartoon about "The Knack" - how people are born engineers. I think it is funny mostly because there is a hint of truth to it. If you are attracted to engineering, there's nothing wrong with going for it. However, I caution you that people who go into engineering (or medicine) for the wrong reasons end up in management/marketing/sales/etc. quickly - not that there is anything wrong with that.

I would suggest you get an internship in engineering or a part-time job to see if this is what you want to do. I know it's kind of late in the game - but better check out the water and possibly waste a semester before you dive-in head-first.

As for me - I'm good at what I do, engineering wise. Some would say great. I've done R&D my entire career - I have the patents and publications, awards and successful projects/products to prove it.

I left for two reasons - First, mainly because I wanted to advance in along a technical, non-managerial pathway - but a PhD was not for me. Why? Because I'm much more social and collaborative than many of my peers were. For example, I was once told "why can't you just stay in your office like Rick does?" by my PhD/CEO. Well - my "socialization" with other subject-matter experts and the marketing guys resulted in several concrete new product ideas and an international patent pending. When discussing going back to school, my office-mates (with PhDs) urged me not to go get a PhD - which at the time seemed surprising. But they knew me better than I did. I'm a people person, in short, and I would have been miserable in a PhD program.

Second, engineering is not as secure as it once was. While not as important as my first reason, it is a cold hard fact engineering isn't as secure as it once was. Yes - engineering is tough and rigorous training. And much like medicine, you really learn on-the-job after the first, say, 5 years, of school. I found this to be very rewarding intellectually. But I feel like in the current employment climate there is a mentality that engineers can be treated like a commodity - a resource that can be laid-off when there is excess or hired only when needed. What is appealing about medicine is my assessment that MDs in particular can "write their own tickets" and this is not such an issue.

Sorry for the rambling, long-winded response. Hope that makes sense.
 
Wow, vc, I had no idea we had such similar experiences. Pretty much everything you're saying here I can back up with my experience in software, and with anecdotal experiences of my buddies in more "hard" engineering disciplines.

Let me add a couple of things.

One, as an engineer, your ability to get paid to apply your craft is more subject to the whim of your employer than in medicine. As a physician, the patient's needs largely determine the work you do, with your employer acting as a broker who channels a (badly) standardized (insurance) payment stream for regulated services billed according to code. As an engineer, it's much more likely that the market demands as perceived by MBAs (of varying skill) will determine the work you do. As an engineer, unless you take on the MBA responsibilities, your livelihood is subject to the judgment of management to make good decisions that will result in the business securing revenue. Hospitals and private practices screw up all the time, but that has no effect on how often people get sick and injured. Medicine is plenty Dilbert-like, but engineering is very Dilbert.

Two, as an engineer, your freedom to do work that you like is tightly coupled to how high up the talent chain you are. Your freedom to make decisions is also tightly coupled to your talent. Picture a room full of twelve engineers, trying to figure out which way to go in solving a problem. Managers are going to say stuff, and the old guys are going to say stuff, but eventually the one or two smartest, most talented people in the room are going to lay it out, and defend their statements without having to work too hard, and the other 10 people have to shut up and take it. By the time an engineer has been in the company for maybe 3 months, he/she knows where he/she stands in the hierarchy, and only very rarely does somebody "break out" of their initial talent strata. That talent strata determines how interesting or mind-numbing the problems are that an engineer gets to work on. In 20 years, I've almost never seen a situation that varies from this "talent strata" norm. By contrast, in medicine, the senior partners and/or executives are going to make big fat business decisions that are frustrating (or occasionally convenient) to physicians, but the physicians still pretty much own diagnosis and treatment decisions. Now, if you get into med school and don't distinguish yourself and go with P=MD and do primary care and get a job with a cheap HMO, that's not going to be satisfying...as would be the case in any field where you put in the bare minimum of effort to get by.

In either medicine or engineering, your ability to work well with people, and your ability to comprehend the mechanics of business and administration and regulation and politics, are every bit as important as the quality of your training.

The happy engineers I know are the ones who would do the job for free, because they just really like solving deeply technical problems, and they stay far far away from politics and gossip and bad behavior.

My advice (in addition to the great advice to go see a career counselor) is to take a corporate job after college for a couple of years. Almost any corporate job is going to introduce you to administrativia and toxic personalities and executive mismanagement and incompetence - which can help you figure out what kind of problems bother you the most, keep you up at night, make you get into the office to take a shot at them - as well as expose you to a few precious individuals who do things with inspiring excellence - which can help you figure out what motivates you. Before you've worked in industry you can't honestly assess your own talents.

Best of luck to you.
 
well, to be honest, the reason i'm considering switching is that i never had a burning desire to go into medicine/dentistry. I always thought of these professions as "something i'd like to do" rather. Also, I personally do not find the field of biology and chemistry very much interesting, nor am I good at it. I also think that the learning style that comes with courses like biology, physiology, etc., does not suit me at all. I hated all the rote memorization that I had to in bio and orgo. On the other hand, I found physics to be very interesting and was actually good at it too. Same with math. I definitely don't think engineering will be easier then premed/med school, but I find the subject more interesting and more suited for me
 
Great responses guys!
Would like to share my thoughts also, and hopefully this helps you.

Honestly, I really like engineering. Due to some networking and my unique undergrad program, I secured an internship 4 weeks after my HIGH school graduation, and worked every summer and fall when I wasn't in school (my university was based on quarter system, thankfully).

This allowed me to gain tremendous experience out of undergrad, and I was progressively given responsibility for larger multi-million dollar projects. Surprisingly, the company where I interned was exceptionally focused on developing both the social and technical skills of its people, so I actually learned most of my social interaction skills there. Upon graduation, I had publications, and my employer even sent me to graduate school at a top-tier university due to my performance.

Because of luck (or miracle), and my 4+ years of experience, I eventually co-founded my own clean-tech startup during graduate school, eventually raising over $600K+ of Venture Capital. Mind you, investors were not looking for MBA-type people who just knew how to talk about something, but people like my partner and I who could actually implement our breakthrough ideas and patent them. Because of our rare combination of both technical expertise and business acumen, potential investors really liked us. We eventually sold our company for an undisclosed sum, and I'm tremendously thankful my older brother inspired me to pursue Electrical Engineering from a young age.

I'm now pursuing medicine, not because I hate engineering. But because I love engineering. As a child of both a doctor and an engineer, I know how both mindsets could be tremendously useful in starting the next bio-tech company, as I've always loved entrepreneurship.

As one of my professors said, there's a reason why engineers can go into relatively any field. It's tremendously hard, but that acquired diligence, technical skills (especially math and science), and social skills (if you actively pursue a good internship or co-op at a great company) can be applied in numerous industries. You can go into Law, PhD in Engineering, Medicine (develop biomedical devices or device entrepreneurship, which is my current motivation), or Finance/Management.

I was recently accepted to Bryn Mawr's Post Bacc Premed program, and my unique entrepreneurial / engineering background is what I think impressed them the most (you need a solid GPA of course). Hopefully I can apply that to medicine and biomedical device commercialization. There's tremendous opportunity in this combined space.

Do a Google search on Dr. Catherine Mohr, who is an engineer, surgeon, and serial entrepreneur. Honestly, she's one of my greatest, realistic inspirations.

Hopefully this helps!!
Good Luck, and feel free to ask any questions/concerns.
 
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This has been one of the most useful threads I have ever read!!

EE/CompSci major reporting in! 🙂

Thanks for all the post!!!
 
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