Question for NYU class of 2014

[swarm]

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Does anyone know what PMV is? Is it mentioned in any literature, curriculum, degree requirements, or at the interview?

 

[Yellow Snow]

PMV stands for practice model values. Along with MDR (specific procedures) requirements, you must produce a certain amount of PMV each year. Some schools use a point system instead (a $600 PFM would be 600 or 6 points). At NYU it is 600 pmv. Basically it is a way to keep you repeating procedures that you no longer need to complete your requirements. Say I have done 9 crowns. I don't need to do another to meet my procedure requirements but it will help my PMV.


It was designed to help students understand the fiscal aspects of running a dental practice. That being said, Dean Palatta has mentioned that the school will be moving away from the PMV system in the coming years for various reasons. You wouldn't need to worry about it for your interview and it may end up being totally irrelevant in the coming years.

 

[swarm]

Is the PMV requirement disclosed anywhere? Is it on the website or discussed at the interview or in any written correspondence? Class of 2014 students: what were you told about it???

 

[hunterpostbacst]

I have another question!

I heard from a D4 student at nyu about their clinic experience that D2 may meet a bit of patients as an assistant of D3 or D4 and D3 starts to meet their patients in a way of 10 sessions/week. Each session takes 2 hours long. What does this mean by that?

And, she said nyu has a pretty tough minimum clinical requirement. Do you feel it's better experience than other research or specilty-oriented schools like columbia?

I turned down Columbia b/c the board grading is going to P/F system and thought clinical experience would be better prepare me for specialty. How do you think about this? I deposited both, though, in any case.

 

[Kneecoal]

Is the PMV requirement disclosed anywhere? Is it on the website or discussed at the interview or in any written correspondence? Class of 2014 students: what were you told about it???

dude, calm down. read the last few lines of yellow snow's first response to you. you don't need to know about it. i wasn't asked about it at my interview either. if anything, YOU ask THEM about it at your interview, and you'll seem that much more knowledgeable/interested in the school.

 

[Yellow Snow]

I have another question!

I heard from a D4 student at nyu about their clinic experience that D2 may meet a bit of patients as an assistant of D3 or D4 and D3 starts to meet their patients in a way of 10 sessions/week. Each session takes 2 hours long. What does this mean by that?

There is a requirement for D2 students to assist in clinic 6 times during their 2nd year to learn the ropes. If you want to do more you can pretty much come into the clinic any time to assist during 1st year or 2nd year.

And, she said nyu has a pretty tough minimum clinical requirement. Do you feel it's better experience than other research or specilty-oriented schools like columbia?

I don't really know much about Columbia. The clinical requirements at NYU seem just about right to me, certainly not too steep. There are some more obscure requirements that can take a long time to complete that some students have trouble completing like the Implant overdenture. You fabricate a mandibular denture (which can take a very long time in dental school), patient gets two implants placed in the mandibular anterior region, and then you adjust the denture to "snap" into these implants. This could easily take 6 months to complete and many patients are intimidated by the implants.

I turned down Columbia b/c the board grading is going to P/F system and thought clinical experience would be better prepare me for specialty. How do you think about this? I deposited both, though, in any case.

I really don't know much about Columbia so I can't make any kind of comparison. There is great opportunity at NYU for clinical experience but luck does play a role. I've been in the clinic for about 6 months and have had some great opportunities. One thing I like is that single unit implants in certain sites are $1,000 at NYU - cheaper than a 3 unit bridge. This results in many patients choosing a single unit implant to fill a missing space. I have four implants placed (I only assist the placement but get to do the restorative) on patients with two more scheduled and a couple more waiting for bone healing to be evaluated. But certainly luck has played a role here.

Esthetic cases can be done out of your normal clinic and the esthetic faculty are well known in the area and also happen to be very nice people. But again, you have to be a bit lucky to get an esthetic case.

Which clinic you get assigned to will also play a role in your clinical experience. I'm on track to finish most of my clinical requirements during 3rd year and so I can spend more time during 4th year with procedures I like and helping my friends make their requirements. So certainly the clinical reqs aren't too steep.

Good luck in dental school.

 

[hunterpostbacst]

Thank you!