Question very low score in both steps ,, what's my chance ?

[meeero]

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HI everybody

my score in step 1=205
step 2 = 215


do i have any chance to have fellowship ? in surgery ?

i'm not planning for residency,,,, only fellowship

 

[Phloston]

HI everybody

my score in step 1=205
step 2 = 215


do i have any chance to have fellowship ? in surgery ?

i'm not planning for residency,,,, only fellowship

If you're an IMG: get ready for a tough road.

If you're an AMG: you're fine.

 

[meeero]

i'm IMG

i heard fellowship doesn't require high score

is it true ?

 

[notbobtrustme]

what's the point of doing a fellowship when it doesn't qualify you for a license?

 

[meeero]

well i know my score is really very low and i won't apply for matching ... so i think if i finish my residency in my country then take a training (fellowship ) in a sub specialty


is it able to be with this low score?

 

[notbobtrustme]

well i know my score is really very low and i won't apply for matching ... so i think if i finish my residency in my country then take a training (fellowship ) in a sub specialty


is it able to be with this low score?

but what's the point of getting a fellowship if it's not a path to a license in the states. Doing a fellowship doesn't grant practice rights.

You might have a shot at a non-ACGME, low competitive specialty in an undesirable area, but you can forget about anything competitive. I'm not even sure if you can do a fellowship without doing an ACGME residency now; I recall that the ACGME closed that loophole a couple years ago.

 

[Doctosanthewan]

I'd say consider the UK. Surgery plays well over here. Although, publications and research in the related specialty are a must nowadays if you want any hope in hell of being competitive, esp. if you're an IMG.
The bright side is that Royal College exams are pass/fail, and they're very straight forward for surgery/medicine. Things get a little more prickly once you get into the sub-specialities (but that's a given anyway.)
As for the States, it doesn't look good, I'm afraid that particular door might have closed for you unfortunately.

 

[meeero]

but what's the point of getting a fellowship if it's not a path to a license in the states. Doing a fellowship doesn't grant practice rights.

You might have a shot at a non-ACGME, low competitive specialty in an undesirable area, but you can forget about anything competitive. I'm not even sure if you can do a fellowship without doing an ACGME residency now; I recall that the ACGME closed that loophole a couple years ago.

Doing a fellowship doesn't grant practice rights.

i just want training and then return to my country not to work in us

ACGME closed that loophole a couple years ago.

oh really ,, i can't apply for fellowship without residency in US

 

[notbobtrustme]

oh really ,, i can't apply for fellowship without residency in US

I wouldn't say it's impossible, but you would have to go outside the ACGME. There are a few independent fellowships out there; search for non-ACGME fellowships and see if something suits you.

What exactly do you hope to train in? That would make this question a lot easier to answer. It's one thing if you want to do a spine surgery fellowship and a whole 'nother ballgame if you want to do a clinical nutrition fellowship.

 

[meeero]

What exactly do you hope to train in?

i would like to take vascular or endovascular fellowship
so it's hard to get it 🙁 right ?

 

[Buzz Me]

oh really ,, i can't apply for fellowship without residency in US

This is very, VERY difficult. You should plan on doing a residency in the US first.