Quinnipiac (Netter) vs. Penn State

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Netter
Pros:
really love the mission of the school
had a great interview day, felt very welcome
smaller class size (about 95)

Cons:
Cost (about 10k more per year)
newer school
does not have its own hospital, more driving for rotations
newer school, possibly less name recognition?

Penn State:
Pros:
Cost (about 10k cheaper)
has its own hospital
on campus housing
possibly more research opportunities
more established reputation?

Cons:
farther from home (about 4 hours)
larger class size (almost double that of Netter)-- perhaps this is a pro??

Netter is P/F, and I believe PSU is as well. Feeling really torn. Please help
 
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I think reputation is a wash. Netter has fairly close access to many hospitals in New Haven and Hartford. You can also be in NYC in less than 90 minutes. When I visited Q, the student body and admins seemed pretty diverse. Penn is more self contained and rural. More research focus. You can get to PHily in just under 2 hours.
 
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Definitely a tough call. I am also currently trying to decide between Netter and another school with its own associated teaching hospital (will be posting my own thread momentarily haha) so while I can't speak on PSU, I'll weigh in on Netter FWIW.

Based on speaking to current students, a few quick facts on Netter which could either sway you toward / away from it depending on your priorities:
- Doesn't really have much in the way of home residency programs, whereas PSU does. However, this also means you get more 1:1 time with attendings / are often learning from them, so on some rotations you can function similar to an intern level of involvement as a student (as opposed to those tasks being taken by residents).
- Definitely a ton of driving; many students cite commutes of 60 min each way are not uncommon (pretty universally a con, however, all schools have at least some faraway rotations-- nevertheless, PSU probably wins out here).
- The MeSH program is a HUGE plus for Netter and a huge draw for me. Allows for very close 1:1 physician mentorship and very early real-life patient exposure that I have thus far not seen paralleled at any of my schools. You are in there every single week actively examining real patients. Graduating students say that it was noticed that they seemed better prepared for residency than other students. If being a clinician is your first priority, (As it is for me) this is a huge plus and I would compare it against whatever PSU offers to see if it measures up. At many schools with opportunities like this, you are in there a lot more infrequently / not nearly as involved (i.e. just shadowing, not putting your stethoscope on the patient).
- In regards to no on-campus housing, this is a con for me as well; however, I hear from upper-years that it's a very close-knit community and they never feel isolated. Moreover, the majority live in East Rock so you run into fellow classmates all the time and regularly spend time at others' apartments (I'm told).
- Despite its lack of name recognition, Netter does well in the Match. I've attached its last 4 match lists. Most competitive specialties are highlighted yellow, and top-10 programs are highlighted green (mostly in FM / primary-care specialties, but still impressive). At the end of the day, I think performance in the Match speaks for itself. Its lack of recognition is simply due to its newness.

Which one you choose depends on your priorities. For me, I have more interest in an urban, diverse, especially low SES population, so Netter is good for this. As the above commenter mentioned, PSU is likely going to give you more exposure to a more rural population.

PSU and Netter both seem to be similar in that they both have a primary-care slant.
 

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I really wouldn't worry about the difference in ranking/reputation. Netter's match lists have been incredible; their newer status as an institution clearly isn't inhibiting their students from matching into well-known residency programs all over the country.
 
Definitely a tough call. I am also currently trying to decide between Netter and another school with its own associated teaching hospital (will be posting my own thread momentarily haha) so while I can't speak on PSU, I'll weigh in on Netter FWIW.

Based on speaking to current students, a few quick facts on Netter which could either sway you toward / away from it depending on your priorities:
- Doesn't really have much in the way of home residency programs, whereas PSU does. However, this also means you get more 1:1 time with attendings / are often learning from them, so on some rotations you can function similar to an intern level of involvement as a student (as opposed to those tasks being taken by residents).
- Definitely a ton of driving; many students cite commutes of 60 min each way are not uncommon (pretty universally a con, however, all schools have at least some faraway rotations-- nevertheless, PSU probably wins out here).
- The MeSH program is a HUGE plus for Netter and a huge draw for me. Allows for very close 1:1 physician mentorship and very early real-life patient exposure that I have thus far not seen paralleled at any of my schools. You are in there every single week actively examining real patients. Graduating students say that it was noticed that they seemed better prepared for residency than other students. If being a clinician is your first priority, (As it is for me) this is a huge plus and I would compare it against whatever PSU offers to see if it measures up. At many schools with opportunities like this, you are in there a lot more infrequently / not nearly as involved (i.e. just shadowing, not putting your stethoscope on the patient).
- In regards to no on-campus housing, this is a con for me as well; however, I hear from upper-years that it's a very close-knit community and they never feel isolated. Moreover, the majority live in East Rock so you run into fellow classmates all the time and regularly spend time at others' apartments (I'm told).
- Despite its lack of name recognition, Netter does well in the Match. I've attached its last 4 match lists. Most competitive specialties are highlighted yellow, and top-10 programs are highlighted green (mostly in FM / primary-care specialties, but still impressive). At the end of the day, I think performance in the Match speaks for itself. Its lack of recognition is simply due to its newness.

Which one you choose depends on your priorities. For me, I have more interest in an urban, diverse, especially low SES population, so Netter is good for this. As the above commenter mentioned, PSU is likely going to give you more exposure to a more rural population.

PSU and Netter both seem to be similar in that they both have a primary-care slant.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. Saw your post and am curious what you decided?
 
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. Saw your post and am curious what you decided?

I ended up going with the other school over Netter (NYMC, if you’re curious). An extremely difficult decision which I literally made at 11:59pm on the 30th, haha. I was genuinely sad to turn Netter down!


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