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scarbrtj said:
Another truthful moment. Another deleted tweet.
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Drew will be immortalized at SDN. Keep this in mind MS4s if you match to Emory and have to rotate with this awesome specimen of an individual
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Am I the only one who's disturbed that someone like this is Twitter and real-life colleagues with several noted academic radiation oncologists in lung cancer?

It's like he just watched Joker and sees himself as a Wayne patriarch and us as clown degenerates #VAbatman #makegothamgreatagain

Plus, he tweeted an insult to a post that included "That's my [adorable] baby in the pic" 🙁
 
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elementaryschooleconomics said:
Yeah, it appears he just deleted this Tweet:

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I highly recommend using the Windows "Snip & Sketch" tool for historical purposes (formerly the Snapshot tool, I believe). I assume Apple has something similar - I just don't know what it is :shrug:
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Apple-Shift-4 to save a file or Apple-Option-Shift-4 to save to copy-paste

Snipping tool for life!
 
elementaryschooleconomics said:
Yeah, it appears he just deleted this Tweet:

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I highly recommend using the Windows "Snip & Sketch" tool for historical purposes (formerly the Snapshot tool, I believe). I assume Apple has something similar - I just don't know what it is :shrug:
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Easy to use screenshot feature on phone, Android phones are typically volume down+power button at the same time
 
Would love to hop on Twitter and show some support for Dr. Parikh, but I'm fresh out of residency working in a private practice in a city with a large academic center that has built satellites around the city. Our practice does okay right now, but who knows what the future holds. If they open up shop nearby and eek us out of business, I would rather join them instead of uprooting my whole family to move to another city. No way do I feel safe posting on Twitter through my straight jacket and killing my future job prospects in academics, when we know that's where all the new jobs are.
 
w00tz said:
Would love to hop on Twitter and show some support for Dr. Parikh, but I'm fresh out of residency working in a private practice in a city with a large academic center that has built satellites around the city. Our practice does okay right now, but who knows what the future holds. If they open up shop nearby and eek us out of business, I would rather join them instead of uprooting my whole family to move to another city. No way do I feel safe posting on Twitter through my straight jacket and killing my future job prospects in academics, when we know that's where all the new jobs are.
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Exactly. I plan on using pen names for at least the next 20 years because my family depends on me. I don't really feel like having Drew come after my career because I disagree with his ad hominem Twitter attacks.

Also, that's all that we're doing here - using pen names. The Twitterati keep going after this "anonymous" shtick, which I presume people have been doing for hundreds of years.

News flash everyone! Opinions behind assumed names isn't exactly a new phenomenon...
 
My dude's CV is online. It appears he took quite a circuitous (and incredibly long) route to becoming a BE radiation oncologist. Not sure that means anything, but interesting nonetheless.
 
Mandelin Rain said:
SimulD signed off. Bummer.
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Everything in life has its pro's and con's. Including choosing a medical specialty. In the pro's and con's of being a radiation oncologist, this entire Saga of SimulD goes squarely in the "con" column. A reasonable guy. Intelligent. Guileless. And he was kind of slightly dragged on twitter. But getting slightly dragged is no biggie. So why'd he sign off twitter? Probably because he was in the process of getting severely dragged IRL for voicing his own reasonable opinions.

Rad onc has geographic restrictions? You bet. But that's not its worst feature: it has now firmly developed free-thinking restrictions. Pardon me for a bit of melodrama... One just distances you from friends and family. The other distances you from your soul.
 
w00tz said:
Would love to hop on Twitter and show some support for Dr. Parikh, but I'm fresh out of residency working in a private practice in a city with a large academic center that has built satellites around the city.
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Same, more or less.

Many thanks to Simul for speaking up. I know lots of people will read this and think this whole thing is dumb, and it kind of is, but it also illustrates the fact that the people in charge of the direction of the job market (in terms of # of trainees) aren't always honest brokers.

Sure, SDN can be over-the-top but there really isn't anywhere that has acknowledged the job market as a problem (or even a potential problem) until very recently. And I suspect it would not have been addressed at ASTRO 2019 had the most recent NRMP Match not been a disaster.

I interviewed with Dr. Moghanaki when I was a medical student. He was a nice guy, a good interviewer, and offered a compelling narrative about his research ideas for lung cancer. His patients appreciate him, to be certain. But this kind of conduct is both unbecoming and disappointing, and undercuts the often-touted professionalism that we, as physicians, should uphold.

He should apologize to Dr. Parikh.
 
I'll never forget the one time that I met Drew Moghanaki when I interviewed as med student at VCU. I had ok step 1 scores (would probably be great these days), but below average for the field. He looked at me and said, "So what happened... did you just not study?"

So... this doesn't really surprise me.

Oh how the mighty have fallen. I struggled to get into this field and ended up taking a job in an underserved area no one else wanted. But it's true that I forgot my Taqman and failed my rad bio, so who knows what kind of horrible medicine I'm practicing out in the boonies. I guess I slipped through the cracks.

The reason why people like KO, DM, RJ, and the handful of other smug L@@k-@t-ME!1!11! radonc crowd on Twitter refuses to come here and debate and launches ad hominems against all of us for being "anonymous," and saying absurd things such as questioning if we are actually "doctors" is that they desperately need Doxx power in order to get their way and not have their incorrect opinions challenged. That's what it's all about, and it's typical of what's become of academia in the past 20 years shutting down free speech on campus with safe spaces, ironically named "free speech zones," etc.

If you disagree with them, they will drag your name through the mud, call you racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-Muslim, anti-insert-protected-group-here, whatever. Whether you actually are or their accusation has any credibility or not doesn't matter. It's the accusation that matters. And of course, a terrible job market where you have to beg and play nice just to be employeed plays right into their hands. Of course they are the ones over-training, because they know they can just doxx anyone who calls out their B.S., get them fired, and replace them from a stack of 500 C.V.s willing to work for less just to be in a big city.

They know they will get eaten alive if they come here. So all they can do is lob absurd logically unsound attacks on anonymity from their Twitter accounts with the faux moral superiority of having their name and face behind it. It's easy to brownnose using your real face and name on Twitter. You just make yourself look good to your superiors by repeating the party line and come across as obviously a tool to everyone else. But of course you know that and don't care. What takes real guts is to put your neck on the line and ask the hard questions. I'm not in a position to do that right now, but I hope to be very soon. Honestly, I probably could now and be fine, but I'm really a nobody and envision causing myself a lot of pain to accomplish nothing. It's a very frustrating feeling. Wanting to do or say something, but knowing these bullies will overpower you. So, thank god for SDN as it's all we have. While I think some of the moderation on this forum is a little out of control in terms of deciding what gets discussed, I am very thankful for their anti-Doxxing stance. It is THAT important these days. For those of you who are -- financially independent, own your own practice, etc, I'd encourage you to step up and speak out against this nonsense as well.

No, Dr. Oliver, it's not us who are failing to behave as adults through anonymous discussions, it's you who is using Twitter to virtue signal and bully into agreement under the threat of Doxxing. That is not honest, civil, adult discourse. That is Soviet, communist-style B.S. Why do you think undergrounds emerged in awful societies like that where people were afraid to speak openly. You think that we are all afraid to speak openly is a good thing?

I have zero doubt somebody high up put the hammer down on Simul. I'm very sorry to see that that happened. This just goes to prove my point and show Dr. Oliver what I am talking about. At least they are acklowding the existence of this place now. I got a kick out of how Dr. Jagsi pretended like she just heard of it, which was the way things used to be up until last year. First rule of SDN was never to talk about SDN in real life. Glad to see that's changing as very important issues are being raised here.
 
medgator said:
He won't. And doesn't have to, unfortunately.

Moreover, the Twitter syncophants are already coming to fluffer up Drew

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Translation from Dr Siker -

"provocative is good when it supports my viewpoint"

She is human after all, and that is a very human reaction.
 
KHE88 said:
I'll never forget the one time that I met Drew Moghanaki when I interviewed as med student at VCU. I had ok step 1 scores (would probably be great these days), but below average for the field. He looked at me and said, "So what happened... did you just not study?"

So... this doesn't really surprise me.

Oh how the mighty have fallen. I struggled to get into this field and ended up taking a job in an underserved area no one else wanted. But it's true that I forgot my Taqman and failed my rad bio, so who knows what kind of horrible medicine I'm practicing out in the boonies. I guess I slipped through the cracks.

The reason why people like KO, DM, RJ, and the handful of other smug L@@k-@t-ME!1!11! radonc crowd on Twitter refuses to come here and debate and launches ad hominems against all of us for being "anonymous," and saying absurd things such as questioning if we are actually "doctors" is that they desperately need Doxx power in order to get their way and not have their incorrect opinions challenged. That's what it's all about, and it's typical of what's become of academia in the past 20 years shutting down free speech on campus with safe spaces, ironically named "free speech zones," etc.

If you disagree with them, they will drag your name through the mud, call you racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-Muslim, anti-insert-protected-group-here, whatever. Whether you actually are or their accusation has any credibility or not doesn't matter. It's the accusation that matters. And of course, a terrible job market where you have to beg and play nice just to be employeed plays right into their hands. Of course they are the ones over-training, because they know they can just doxx anyone who calls out their B.S., get them fired, and replace them from a stack of 500 C.V.s willing to work for less just to be in a big city.

They know they will get eaten alive if they come here. So all they can do is lob absurd logically unsound attacks on anonymity from their Twitter accounts with the faux moral superiority of having their name and face behind it. It's easy to brownnose using your real face and name on Twitter. You just make yourself look good to your superiors by repeating the party line and come across as obviously a tool to everyone else. But of course you know that and don't care. What takes real guts is to put your neck on the line and ask the hard questions. I'm not in a position to do that right now, but I hope to be very soon. Honestly, I probably could now and be fine, but I'm really a nobody and envision causing myself a lot of pain to accomplish nothing. It's a very frustrating feeling. Wanting to do or say something, but knowing these bullies will overpower you. So, thank god for SDN as it's all we have. While I think some of the moderation on this forum is a little out of control in terms of deciding what gets discussed, I am very thankful for their anti-Doxxing stance. It is THAT important these days. For those of you who are -- financially independent, own your own practice, etc, I'd encourage you to step up and speak out against this nonsense as well.

No, Dr. Oliver, it's not us who are failing to behave as adults through anonymous discussions, it's you who is using Twitter to virtue signal and bully into agreement under the threat of Doxxing. That is not honest, civil, adult discourse. That is Soviet, communist-style B.S. Why do you think undergrounds emerged in awful societies like that where people were afraid to speak openly. You think that we are all afraid to speak openly is a good thing?

I have zero doubt somebody high up put the hammer down on Simul. I'm very sorry to see that that happened. This just goes to prove my point and show Dr. Oliver what I am talking about. At least they are acklowding the existence of this place now. I got a kick out of how Dr. Jagsi pretended like she just heard of it, which was the way things used to be up until last year. First rule of SDN was never to talk about SDN in real life. Glad to see that's changing as very important issues are being raised here.
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This really summarizes things well.

I think our current situation is described thus: SDN RadOnc is an underground society. It has existed for almost 20 years. It has absolutely exploded over the last 2-4 years, specifically since the 2018 ABR Exams.

Is it a coincidence that the only large venue for the free exchange of ideas has exploded given the current state of the field?

Only if you believe that fever, night sweats, and weight loss is a coincidence in someone diagnosed with lymphoma.
 
medgator said:
He won't. And doesn't have to, unfortunately.

Moreover, the Twitter syncophants are already coming to fluffer up Drew

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I agree with Dr. Siker. Drew Moghanaki is clearly a sharp mind and passionate radiation oncologist.
His voice is just as important as ours.

This does not, however, mean that he should be protected from criticism when he says not-so-good things.
The woke zeitgeist is this nonsensical idea that protection from being offended or criticized is somehow an inalienable right. With the advent of recording devices and social media creating a permanent record of everything that is ever said, those who hold this view have discovered that they have a powerful new tool, doxxing combined with inverting the innocent-until-proven-guilty moral paradigm, to enforce this perceived right. Don't like what somebody says? Lob an accusation at them, making them guilty before the mob, then doxx them and ruin their career.

But no, wait, pretty please come to real "adult" platforms like Twitter (you know, the one with a cartoon bird) and engage in real adult conversations with us. We'll be nice and totally consider everything you have to say. Nobody will go to you and threaten your job if you don't delete disagreeing tweets. We promise! Yeah......
 
Wow... Just went down the Twitter rabbit hole...

He's not even hiding it:



"Report to Twitter Police"

Thanks for proving my point, DM. For a minute I wondered if I was becoming a conspiracy theorist.

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Simul showed some serious BDE. Good for him.

Of course there are feisty as*holes here..and hyperbole. Welcome to anonymous internet message boards. Filter through it all and there's been objective truth in here since the Bloodbath thread.


For a field that seemed to always pride itself on data.... I think the majority of the objective data (residency survey results/job concerns, match data, CMS oversight rules) all point toward problems that have been addressed here for many years now, that academia at best chose to ignore (or at worse caused).
 
So basically DM clown bully bullied a collegue and called up his bosses at main site Houston who told him he better go off grid or will end up in a breadline.
Our field is in disgusting state with people like DM at the helm. Clown bullies everywhere and plenty of sycophant cronies to agree with their inflated opinions.

i am adding Emory to no match list. Med students do you really wanna work with this tool?
 
elementaryschooleconomics said:
This really summarizes things well.

I think our current situation is described thus: SDN RadOnc is an underground society. It has existed for almost 20 years. It has absolutely exploded over the last 2-4 years, specifically since the 2018 ABR Exams.

Is it a coincidence that the only large venue for the free exchange of ideas has exploded given the current state of the field?

Only if you believe that fever, night sweats, and weight loss is a coincidence in someone diagnosed with lymphoma.
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Exactly, space created here because leading voices in Astro and twitter totally divorced from reality and reason. Twitter degenerated to virtue signalling and cheerleading as the job market goes over a cliff. Likewise, it grates me when these guys attribute falling interest in radiation to sdn, not the actions of their institutions. They imply medstudents are naive and stupid when it comes to making one of most important decisions in their lives.
 
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radmonckey said:
Wow. That is so sad and disappointing. And some wonder why people don't want to out themselves on Twitter. I'm honestly inspired by Simul and am considering signing up for Twitter just to support him.
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I had the misfortune of speaking to him once briefly and he indicated that he keeps looking into other things but comes back to rad onc “since it’s still the best money wise.” This is from a reportedly lazy and toxic VA doc. Apparently he’s much too lazy to work hard in a pp job. Hey Wally Curran, when will you step up to improve the culture at your program? Perhaps never since you represent the problem?
 
Run from Emory. Extremely toxic chair who sets the culture and residents are graduating desperate for jobs.

thecarbonionangle said:
So basically DM clown bully bullied a collegue and called up his bosses at main site Houston who told him he better go off grid or will end up in a breadline.
Our field is in disgusting state with people like DM at the helm. Clown bullies everywhere and plenty of sycophant cronies to agree with their inflated opinions.

i am adding Emory to no match list. Med students do you really wanna work with this tool?
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RadDoc11 said:
I had the misfortune of speaking to him once briefly and he indicated that he keeps looking into other things but comes back to rad onc “since it’s still the best money wise.” This is from a reportedly lazy and toxic VA doc. Apparently he’s much too lazy to work hard in a pp job. Hey Wally Curran, when will you step up to improve the culture at your program? Perhaps never since you represent the problem?
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Heard that culture at Jeff under Wally for residents and attending s was very nourishing and supportive? Wally would personally lead residents an hour a day in mindfulness and boundless love meditation practice.
 
Drew Moghanaki:
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Also Drew Moghanaki:
"whose identity we can't confirm to have insights into their mental health"
"be less annoying"

I agree rad onc attracts empathetic people, but super ironic coming from him.
 
scarbrtj said:
she said MSKCC does EKGs on *all* patients prior to RT.
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This situation is escalating quickly! We really touched a nerve here. I do wonder if patients do look at Twitter what they are thinking per Dr.Cox. I wish he rebuked both DM and ABRO, but alas... Not a good look for all involved, but crazy the doubling down of academics vs PP / Twitter vs SDN.

I have found the Twitter post Dr. Chino had as well.

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For the less web terminology inclined:

Doxing or doxxing is the Internet-based practice of researching and broadcasting private or identifying information about an individual or organization. The methods employed to acquire this information include searching publicly available databases and social media websites, hacking, and social engineering.
 
Neuronix said:
The American Board of Radiation Oncology account was deleted. Good job Twitter police 👍
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While I'm 99% sure ABRO was Sphinx's account, this is extremely disturbing.

The woke-scolds have no tolerance for parody or comedy. In other countries, making fun of leadership is punishable by death. Even in more progressive countries like Thailand, it's a serious crime to criticize leadership. It's scary we're heading that way.

Take a look at Dave Chapelle and Bill Burr's recent Netflix documentariesn (both of which were hilarious, excellent, and very much needed in today's everything-offends-me society) that touched on this subject how no one can be a comedian anymore and the backlash it caused.
 
I have received the below from an Emory resident, will protect their identity. Sharing in case any applicants want to hear another perspective:

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Emory is not a malignant program. We have single coverage (1 attending on a given day) and 1 academic day a week, under yearly case limits, minimal scut. Wally is the exec director of the cancer center and hands off on the residency. We havent been double coverage since PD change 4 years ago.

Drew is at the VA. The VA is not an Emory affiliate. He works like 20% clinic time or something like that- he just started. Our residents rotate at the VA rarely, meaning only about half the residents ever have a rotation there. He's not representative of Emory, more so the VA. Lump us with him if you want, but he’s not a big part of the resident experience.

It's frankly harmful to our program and the emory residents to see this stuff, especially about someone we don't affiliate ourselves with."
 
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