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On paper Emory should be one of best programs to train in country.
I have received the below from an Emory resident, will protect their identity. Sharing in case any applicants want to hear another perspective:

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Emory is not a malignant program. We have single coverage (1 attending on a given day) and 1 academic day a week, under yearly case limits, minimal scut. Wally is the exec director of the cancer center and hands off on the residency. We havent been double coverage since PD change 4 years ago.

Drew is at the VA. The VA is not an Emory affiliate. He works like 20% clinic time or something like that- he just started. Our residents rotate at the VA rarely, meaning only about half the residents ever have a rotation there. He's not representative of Emory, more so the VA. Lump us with him if you want, but he’s not a big part of the resident experience.

It's frankly harmful to our program and the emory residents to see this stuff, especially about someone we don't affiliate ourselves with."
On paper Emory should be one of best programs to train in country. One of first in world to do breast IMRT. To abandon traditional simulator in favor of pure CT sim. To do linac based SRS. Coronary brachytherapy (not that it panned out). Large city with diverse rotation experiences including good peds experience and now protons. If Drew is sorta not Emory: perhaps good as resident says.
 
I have received the below from an Emory resident, will protect their identity. Sharing in case any applicants want to hear another perspective:

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Emory is not a malignant program. We have single coverage (1 attending on a given day) and 1 academic day a week, under yearly case limits, minimal scut. Wally is the exec director of the cancer center and hands off on the residency. We havent been double coverage since PD change 4 years ago.

Drew is at the VA. The VA is not an Emory affiliate. He works like 20% clinic time or something like that- he just started. Our residents rotate at the VA rarely, meaning only about half the residents ever have a rotation there. He's not representative of Emory, more so the VA. Lump us with him if you want, but he’s not a big part of the resident experience.

It's frankly harmful to our program and the emory residents to see this stuff, especially about someone we don't affiliate ourselves with."

This is fantastic. Thank you for posting this. I want to publicly apologize if I implied that this Emory is definitely a malignant program currently. I don't know that. The reputation 7-8 years ago is that Emory worked residents Very, very hard. Glad to hear that that's no longer the case. I want to clarify that I simply stated what the reputation had been. We need open an honest discourse like this. I would encourage the resident who messaged you to come here and post directly. Good work - thanks, alligator.
 
Yes you can for the most part. DM evilbooyaa.

Thanks, PM sent. I am more than happy to put my money where my mouth is. Encourage everyone else here to do the same.
 
I deleted a bunch of back and forth personal attacks and political bickering. Knock it off please.

you’ve got to be kidding

I was. It was sarcasm. I thought ABRO was hilarious.

How can we donate anonymously?

How do you want to do it? I mean, we usually take donations by credit card through PayPal. That info basically goes to one or two people who handle that--eb and I never see that stuff. We all sign confidentiality agreements as well. We are extremely anti-doxxing as a rule. But if you want me to kick your question to the admin hive mind I can. I don't even know how to send someone money anonymously nowadays (and I'm not even a Boomer!).
 
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I deleted a bunch of back and forth personal attacks and political bickering. Knock it off please.



I was. It was sarcasm. I thought ABRO was hilarious.



How do you want to do it? I mean, we usually take donations by credit card through PayPal. That info basically goes to one or two people who handle that--eb and I never see that stuff. We all sign confidentiality agreements as well. We are extremely anti-doxxing as a rule. But if you want me to kick your question to the admin hive mind I can. I don't even know how to send someone money anonymously nowadays (and I'm not even a Boomer!).

Baby Boomer?
 
Boomer is short for baby boomer. That would make me a baby baby boomer. I'm a millennial though (hooray)..

Gen X was basically after the boomers but before 1981, I'm a young Gen Xer. I believe some people call the folks born between 81-90 "Gen Y" and pretty much everyone after that is a millennial.

Objectively, boomers are by far the worst generation still alive
 
none of these definitions are official of course (bc these are made up terms), but here is what Wikipedia has:

Baby Boomers born 1946-1964
Gen X born 1965 - 1980
Millennials also known as Gen Y born 1981 - 1996
Gen Z born 1997 - 2012(?)


most people grossly mis-use the term Millennials. THey think of Millennials as being the teeny boppers who want avocado toast and a latte, when in reality there are nearly 40 year olds who are Millennials. The youngest Millennials are 23.
 
Gen Y = millennial. The term Gen Y was coined first but was later replaced by millennial. However, surveys have shown that those born in the early 80s often do not identify with millennials.
 
Boomer is short for baby boomer. That would make me a baby baby boomer. I'm a millennial though (hooray).



If you really want to send SDN bitcoin let me know and I'll inquire about this.

I was actually thinking about this last night. I don't know how to use bitcoin, but my understanding is that it's impossible to tell where it came from. I can figure it out, and I'm sure others would as well.

I will gladly send over the $200 lifetime donation if you can figure out a bitcoin payment option.

It's sad state that our field is so vindictive and bent on doxxing that I'm afraid to even attach my name to a donation. Maybe I'm just paranoid, but watching what happened immediately to Simul and others going back to what was said about Shah, I don't think I'm that unreasonable.
 
What happened to Simul wasn't exactly eye opening as I've seen this happen to ROs in the workplace. But to have it occur on a public forum is mind boggling. Academic medicine is hierarchical, there's no way to out-rank these individuals. Is this how it's always going to be?
 
Gen Y = millennial. The term Gen Y was coined first but was later replaced by millennial. However, surveys have shown that those born in the early 80s often do not identify with millennials.
Yup. I used a Gameboy with spinach colors and my first cell phone was a brick. I see millenials as those who were teens when the first smartphones came out, after things like Nirvana and napster etc
 
What happened to Simul wasn't exactly eye opening as I've seen this happen to ROs in the workplace. But to have it occur on a public forum is mind boggling. Academic medicine is hierarchical, there's no way to out-rank these individuals. Is this how it's always going to be?

🙁 Did anything happen in addition to Drew M being an a*****e?
 
Pretty disgusting post to suggest that because MDACC is “hiring” all these people, that means most people will have access to these opportunities. As a PD of a program known for scut, guy is now sending “vibes” lmao
Those 10-12 jobs will go to grads of the top 3, guaranteed.
 
Wow Malika clearly taking drew side.

DM and his napoleon complex is pretty sad/funny (basically the rad onc equivalent of "angry bagel guy", just look it up if you don't know what I'm talking about lol). VA docs are generally pretty sub-par, not surprising it attracts such low quality of individual.
 
VA docs are generally pretty sub-par, not surprising it attracts such low quality of individual.
Objectively, yes. Sad for our veterans



And of course, the notorious VA Philly prostate brachy debacle
 
Objectively, yes. Sad for our veterans



And of course, the notorious VA Philly prostate brachy debacle

The funny thing about that is the people involved are all in a better spot. That VA is UPENN affiliated and the guy is in a better spot now. It all happened under Steve Hahn, I believe too. I remember the "failing NY times" was all over it. The media LOVED the story. Very bad look for our field and the reason to this day that brachytherapy is completely DEAD at the VA system for a few exceptions. It currently attracts some of the most low energy people in rad onc or other unemployable docs for whatever reason.
 
DM and his napoleon complex is pretty sad/funny (basically the rad onc equivalent of "angry bagel guy", just look it up if you don't know what I'm talking about lol). VA docs are generally pretty sub-par, not surprising it attracts such low quality of individual.
I’m sure there’s some explanation, but it took 20 years to get from college freshman year to board eligible (without a PhD), including stops at three different med schools, not matching at home program nor any of the externship places, taking a academic job and getting shunted from there to the VA.
 
I’m sure there’s some explanation, but it took 20 years to get from college freshman year to board eligible (without a PhD), including stops at three different med schools, not matching at home program nor any of the externship places, taking a academic job and getting shunted from there to the VA.

Maybe a criminal record? Very interesting factoid. Maybe someone should not be questioning people's mental health online, perchance?
 
The American Board of Radiation Oncology account was deleted. Good job Twitter police 👍

Edit: yes this was sarcasm.
It's back?

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🙁 Did anything happen in addition to Drew M being an a*****e?

Simul signed off twitter. I think most hospitals these days have social media "codes of conduct" and Simul was probably told off for that spat that he had with Drew M. Unless you're in a position where your livelihood isn't threatened by social media it's always best to be careful.
 

Long Live the ABRO

Moghanaki should be ashamed of himself, and the folks who feel that that level of interaction was appropriate on Simul should feel similarly ashamed of themselves.

But yes, to clarify earlier, DM is not in Emory leadership. He is at their VA, and as stated above by an Emory resident, has a relatively small role in the EMory residency program.

Let's stick with the issues of the man himself, not the institution (Emory, not the VA) that employs him.
 
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Twitterati circle the wagons, protect their own.

At least admit Drew went a little far...

Again, there is no courage is protecting the status quo and offering milquetoast “solutions” that don’t upset your dept chair, but keep patting yourself on the back, KO. Surely brand awareness and positivity will solve all RO issues.
 
Simul signed off twitter. I think most hospitals these days have social media "codes of conduct" and Simul was probably told off for that spat that he had with Drew M. Unless you're in a position where your livelihood isn't threatened by social media it's always best to be careful.

why i do not tweet. Just seems like a way to give vindictive people (plenty in RO) a tool to screw you. It is such a bad look for our field. People saying go ahead and post and engage people and All they do is be vindictive and crush dissent. This is why SDN will be even more important because sycophants will just agree with eachother.
 
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why i do not tweet. Just seems like a way to give vindictive people (plenty in RO) a tool to screw you. It is such a bad look for our field. People saying go ahead and post and engage people and All they do is be vindictive and crush dissent. This is why SDN will be even more important because sycophants will just agree with eachother.

All the more reason to support it.

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Simul signed off twitter. I think most hospitals these days have social media "codes of conduct" and Simul was probably told off for that spat that he had with Drew M. Unless you're in a position where your livelihood isn't threatened by social media it's always best to be careful.

messed up how drew got away with being an ass but simul being screwed

drew has been a loser on twitter for a long time. tries to be an advocate for radiation but eventually is always clowned by surgeons

I guess when you’re a clown yourself its not hard to be clowned
 
messed up how drew got away with being an ass but simul being screwed

drew has been a loser on twitter for a long time. tries to be an advocate for radiation but eventually is always clowned by surgeons

I guess when you’re a clown yourself its not hard to be clowned

All clown bullies meet their match and especially surgeons they don’t mess around and can outclown anybody
 
I don't think Simul got banned or censored. He's just a reasonable guy and realized it wasn't worth it to get into petty fights with trash like Drew.
 
Speaking of clown bullies....rumor has it Penn St wants to start a program (it was in the ASTRO jobs description for their chair job many months ago).

can't let them get away with it.

 
I don't think Simul got banned or censored. He's just a reasonable guy and realized it wasn't worth it to get into petty fights with trash like Drew.

This would be best case scenario. I sincerely appreciate Simul's work but am okay with him deciding to think for himself and not be a martyr.

He has already done enough to where I would buy him beers at ASTRO indefinitely.
 
it's true that people should not believe everything they read. That goes for basically everything in life. I know his statement will trigger some people.

It's also true that if Penn State actually does plan to open a residency, they are gonna be smacked down pretty hard. I bet if they had a plan in the past, the plan will not continue now.
 
Speaking of clown bullies....rumor has it Penn St wants to start a program (it was in the ASTRO jobs description for their chair job many months ago).

can't let them get away with it.



They are trying will be up to RRC. i know at least one southern program has already applied to start a residency program. How much they can “block” remains to be seen.
 
it's true that people should not believe everything they read. That goes for basically everything in life. I know his statement will trigger some people.

It's also true that if Penn State actually does plan to open a residency, they are gonna be smacked down pretty hard. I bet if they had a plan in the past, the plan will not continue now.

Zaorsky's statement fell a little short:

Don't believe everything on SDN
Don't believe everything on Twitter
Don't believe everything in real life


Do I actually have to say it to medical students who are adults? I guess so:

Someone's opinion, no matter where it's offered, can be shades of true or shades of wrong, and the person you're talking to can still be "wrong" and telling the absolute truth as they understand it.

Come on, Twitterati - you act like there's a massive conspiracy theory going on over here.
 
I hope its not MCG again. Those clowns have started and shut down min 2 times in the past 10-12 years

Clowns are gonna clown. Heard through grapevine as i keep my ear close to ground and whispers. Southern program currently potentially in works....

ball is on the court of the RRC. I would imagine if they cannot block this, they are toothless
 
Programs opened since 2005 with number of approved residency spots. I've heard through the grape vine but with no direct knowelge that Penn State has been looking to open a residency for the past couple of years.

Dartmouth (2018) 4
University of Arkansas (2017) 4
West Virginia University (2016) 4
Stony Brook (2016) 4
University of Tennessee (2015) 4
Drexel (2014) 4
Medical College of Georgia (2013) 4
Cedars Sinai (2013) 4
Mayo Clinic Arizona (2013) 4
Hofstra (2012) 8
Texas A and M (2011) 8
University of California San Diego (2010) 12
University of Nebraska (2010) 4
University of Mississippi (2010) 4
City of Hope (2008) 6
University of Oklahoma (2007) 6
University of South Florida (2007) 10
University of Texas Southwestern (2005) 14
Rutgers (2005) 9
Mayo Clinic Jacksonville (2005) 4
 
UCSD, USF (Moffitt), and UTSW are very very strong. UCSD is a top 15 program, easily.

Mayo Arizona and Jacksonville have good tech and share education with the mothership, which clearly has some benefits to it.

I can not in good conscience recommend any of the others.

of course there are many bad programs that opened in the 80s too.
 
Programs opened since 2005 with number of approved residency spots. I've heard through the grape vine but with no direct knowelge that Penn State has been looking to open a residency for the past couple of years.

Dartmouth (2018) 4
University of Arkansas (2017) 4
West Virginia University (2016) 4
Stony Brook (2016) 4
University of Tennessee (2015) 4
Drexel (2014) 4
Medical College of Georgia (2013) 4
Cedars Sinai (2013) 4
Mayo Clinic Arizona (2013) 4
Hofstra (2012) 8
Texas A and M (2011) 8
University of California San Diego (2010) 12
University of Nebraska (2010) 4
University of Mississippi (2010) 4
City of Hope (2008) 6
University of Oklahoma (2007) 6
University of South Florida (2007) 10
University of Texas Southwestern (2005) 14
Rutgers (2005) 9
Mayo Clinic Jacksonville (2005) 4

Of these I would def go to

UCSD, Moffitt

likely would go to

UTSW

would consider

Mayo AZ,

never would go to

dartmouth, Arkansas, WVU, stony brook, Mississippi, Nebraska, Tennessee, Drexel aka Christiana Care, MCG, Texas am, Oklahoma, Mayo Jax, Rutgers, city of hope, Hofstra, cedars Sinai

Students, I’m happy to discuss my reasonings if you want
 
UCSD, Moffitt

likely would go to

UTSW

would consider

Mayo AZ,

never would go to

dartmouth, Arkansas, WVU, stony brook, Mississippi, Nebraska, Tennessee, Drexel aka Christiana Care, MCG, Texas am, Oklahoma, Mayo Jax, Rutgers, city of hope, Hofstra, cedars Sinai

Students, I’m happy to discuss my reasonings if you want
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stony brook has a program?
 
I don't know if A and M is taking residents anymore and we know Drexel is dead and buried. I think MCG dead too.
 
I don't know if A and M is taking residents anymore and we know Drexel is dead and buried. I think MCG dead too.

MCG and Drexel are dead because the main hospital is closing unless Christiana Care plans to Open their own? MS has not taken anybody in match in years, are they even a program anymore?
 
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