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contemplate908 said:
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@Amicus, u dont even know the whole story so best to keep the mouth closed 🙄
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Heal&Teach said:Ummm... I don't really trust that website, aside from the few folks on here that are actually nice enough to link their profiles to their sigs (e.g., exmike, jlee, & others). This one has no other information and looks pretty bogus, especially since the application year listed is 2005. 🙄 If this is true (which I don't believe it to be), this person definitely had some sort of "in", no question about it. I don't even know people with these numbers (esp. a 4) that have gotten into any international schools (absolutely no offense to anyone at an international school - the lowest I've ever heard is someone applying with a 6 in any section to allopathic, osteopathic, and caribbean schools). The only thing that might lead me to believe this (and only marginally) is the fact that Buffalo is one of those schools where how you perform in the interview weighs heavily on your acceptance. If he was lucky enough to get through the screening process... more power to him, but I find it hard to believe that ANYONE got in with a 20 (I've known of 21s getting in and above, but not 20s, esp. with the numbers not being even).
rhlmdmph2b said:where did this thread come from? I've never seen it!!
lotanna said:😀
@Amicus, u dont even know the whole story so best to keep the mouth closed 🙄
Amicus said:The post is bogus and you know it.
Keep on rolling your eyes....and be sure to ask your school who was the person who was 1st on the waitlist at the very end of the cycle. Call him up and explain to him why your embarassing stats dont mean you dont deserve the spot on school more than he does...i dare you. Or is it easier not to look the person you have screwed over in the eye?
lotanna said:oh spare me Amicus.
fyi buster, i had to go get a grad degree and do more so focusin on what i posted as MCAT and undergrad degree is ignorant. Many other non URMS were accepted to my schl with MCATs under 30, schls average is 27-28 btw.
Then again this is SDN, do urself a favor and go to the USMLE forums, and then check out MCAT scores of those who posted, even the sub 30 ones, and then holla back.
Back to main topic pls
lotanna said:fyi buster, i had to go get a grad degree and do more so focusin on what i posted as MCAT and undergrad degree is ignorant. Many other non URMS were accepted to my schl with MCATs under 30, schls average is 27-28 btw.
Then again this is SDN, do urself a favor and go to the USMLE forums, and then check out MCAT scores of those who posted, even the sub 30 ones, and then holla back.
Back to main topic pls
Amicus said:It is almoast funny how URMs will hide from valid criticisms. Its like someone threw a hand grenade in the room, everybody bolts.
This issue is not whether or not you will fail in school. That, as you well know, does not make it right. You are keeping someone else out who, were he/she black, would have your spot right now. It doesnt matter if you pass med school or not, you used up a space you didnt earn and someone else is not going te be a doctor now. Someone else who earned their spot on merit not race. And you know you agree deep down or you would have the nuts to call this person up and explain to him why you deserve his/her spot becuase you are black.
pathdr2b said:Lotanna,
YOU KNOW WE ARE VERY PROUD OF YOU!!!!![]()
PS- Just make sure the 4 years from now, everyone that thinks you're "unqualified" address you as DOCTOR 😉
Amicus said:It is almoast funny how URMs will hide from valid criticisms. Its like someone threw a hand grenade in the room, everybody bolts.
This issue is not whether or not you will fail in school. That, as you well know, does not make it right. You are keeping someone else out who, were he/she black, would have your spot right now. It doesnt matter if you pass med school or not, you used up a space you didnt earn and someone else is not going te be a doctor now. Someone else who earned their spot on merit not race. And you know you agree deep down or you would have the nuts to call this person up and explain to him why you deserve his/her spot becuase you are black.
Amicus said:Im a med student already, im not worried about MY spot, ive got it.
I knew the realities of AA as an undergrad and so i put in the extra work to make myself a susseful aplicant even under the burden of an AA system.
The issue is not about me, it is about the poor guys who dont get to be doctors becuase they are not "diverse" (AKA black) enough.
Amicus said:"I knew the realities of AA as an undergrad and so i put in the extra work to make myself a susseful aplicant even under the burden of an AA system.
Amicus said:It is almoast funny how URMs will hide from valid criticisms. Its like someone threw a hand grenade in the room, everybody bolts.
Amicus said:It is almoast funny how URMs will hide from valid criticisms. Its like someone threw a hand grenade in the room, everybody bolts.
This issue is not whether or not you will fail in school. That, as you well know, does not make it right. You are keeping someone else out who, were he/she black, would have your spot right now. It doesnt matter if you pass med school or not, you used up a space you didnt earn and someone else is not going te be a doctor now. Someone else who earned their spot on merit not race. And you know you agree deep down or you would have the nuts to call this person up and explain to him why you deserve his/her spot becuase you are black.
Aucdoctobe said:Amicus,
I'm a "URM (which is student doctor for ni*ger)." What am I hiding from? You can come meet me in Oklahoma City and talk to me about this face to face.
Congrats Lotanna. Make us proud.
lotanna said:Hey lady!!
Howz the studying going??
You got that right, even the rednecks wont be able to pick and choose their doc's color 😀
Path, you're soo helpful... 😍pathdr2b said:I am the MCAT MASTER!!!! Yeah right 🙄 , I'm just taking it day by day but still so happy to have found EK. After I blow this one out, I may consider going over the the local community college and helping some folks that perhaps don't have the resources to conquer this thing!
Amicus said:The issue is not about me, it is about the poor guys who dont get to be doctors becuase they are not "diverse" (AKA black) enough.
Heal&Teach said:One question for you Amicus... since when does AA solely benefit black people? This is not what you said, but it is inherent in the statement "diverse (AKA black) enough". What other groups do you feel benefit from AA? Just curious.
And I also agree with the sentiment that if you are truly against AA, then write to your representatives and complain about it. Healthy debates about AA are expected, but trite. They don't do anything except get people heated up about something that they're most likely not taking any initiative for or against in their personal lives. My apologies if you are actively working to do something about it.
Heal&Teach said:One question for you Amicus... since when does AA solely benefit black people? This is not what you said, but it is inherent in the statement "diverse (AKA black) enough". What other groups do you feel benefit from AA? Just curious.
kae51202 said:path,
I'm on hiatus as well. I finally got all of my 2005 apps in and then after a conversation today with the minority counselor at one of the schools I'm very interested in, I signed up to take the August MCAT. Can you believe that today was the last day for late registration? I don't know how I'm going to do it with less than 3 weeks away but I know that God didn't bring me this far to leave me now. Are you preparing any differently than you did in April or just practicing more? Your positivity is definitely refreshing.
Amicus said:Many people cheat with AA, not just black people. But I dont see many puertoricans on SDN arguing that they should get cut slack. If you see some let me know.
So that other person trying to pretend AA wasnt that big of a deal, WAKE UP.
about 1000-1500 people are screwed each year because of AA. And nearly every applicant is affected by it. If race was not taken into consideration only about 300 black people and 300 other URMS would be admitted each year. Sad but fair. The diference in GPA is .3 points and MCAT is SEVEN points. This is how far standards muct be comprimised, and STILL the percentage of blacks accepted is lower than whites/asians. Im sure many of you would argue that they should cut standards even lower, to maybe a GPA of 3.1 and MCAT of 22 for blacks so that the same % of applying blacks are accepted as whites. You know you would. Becuase to you fair has no meaning.
velocypedalist said:the only people with a reason to worry about AA are borderline candidates, and they are just as likely to be kept out of school by bad luck, mood of the adcom, phases of the moon, strength of the yen, and whether or not a butterfly flaps its wings in the amazon...
Amicus said:This is simply ******ed. I want you to sit down light some inscense, put on some music and try and use your head. It is a FACT that there are a limited number of seats in school. To allow one person in for being black is keeping another person out who is not black. The point of AA is to increase the number of minority students. So AA must allow people in who would not have been admitted without consideration of race. That is the only way the numbers of minorities would increase. To acomplish that, you must let in fewer whites and asians.
X + Y = constant
program using race to increase X is identical to a program using race to decrease Y
It doesnt get any simpler and if you dont understand this you need to go back to elementary school.
Treg said:Hey guys,
Well apparently I am the only one keeping the thread alive this year 🙁
I have a question for anyone who has interviewed at UPenn in the past: did you get contacted by the minority affairs office? I was telephoned to be congratulated for receiving an interview and then I got an email with a list of additional activities for URMs on the interview day (which is already jam-packed!). Also, I was offered the opportunity to meet with the dean or assoc. dean of minority affairs. What would be the purpose/advantage/disadvantage of doing this??? Does anyone have any input?
Thanks guys, and I hope everyone has good luckthis season 🙂
Treg
Treg said:Also, I was offered the opportunity to meet with the dean or assoc. dean of minority affairs. What would be the purpose/advantage/disadvantage of doing this??? Does anyone have any input?
Treg
Treg said:How about some status updates from my fellow 2005 cycle peeps?
I have completed 9/12 secondaries. I have received minority affairs mail from UPenn and Columbia, but that's all so far. I designated these schools on AMCAS, so I am not sure if it stems from that or from MED-MAR.
Good luck everyone! Hang in there with all these secondaries!
Treg
ilovesnma said:Please keep this thread up, it could be helpful for alot of URM's going through the process. Please be very proactive in this process by contacting the Office of Minority Affairs at the schools you are interested in and definitely let them know how interested you are in the school if it is your top choice. God Bless all of you in this application process.