Fair enough, but NYU also offers full COA scholarships/need based aid. With regards to research, NYU also has insane funding and opportunities. "Publish better" is something you'll need to back up - I can't imagine you know the inner workings of all 3 institutions research productivity to make this claim.
I'll say NYU and Columbia's match lists are pretty similar. Cornell is not as impressive imo. But again, reading match lists is not the full story - just gives a general picture. They're all objectively great. If you look at the one I posted above, that amount of subspecialty matches is incredibly good from NYU. How did you come to the conclusion that Cornell/Columbia are better? I'm curious to hear this from your vantage point.
Eh I'm from NYC, 95% of people would pick the area of NYU over Washington heights. Also if you're referring to hospital diversity, nothing beats Bellevue in NY.
With regards to NYP being more well regarded, you can make the argument - that being said, you need to assess this based on specialty and residency programs - it's much more nuanced than layman's prestige and USN rankings of hospitals. You'll get there in a few years when you apply for residency and see what I mean.
This are all very close values but is a moot point when NYU's rank lists as of late are frankly very good (As posted above).
Like I said, agree to disagree, you can make the argument for all 3 of them. I just disagree with your assessment, but don't think it's outlandish or anything.
NYU offers full COA to some students, not all with demonstrated financial need. Can't be compared, imo. Wrt publishing, US News actually does a global research ranking for each subject that has far better methodology than the US News med school rankings. If you compare the publication volume, citations, collaborations, etc., you'll see that Columbia and Cornell surpass NYU in clinical medicine, biomedical sciences, and related subjects.
You are correct that I don't know a ton about the inner workings of those three schools (would argue that nobody knows much about the inner workings of any school they haven't spent years at, so I don't think this point is relevant for our conversations unless you've worked at/been a student at all three schools...in which case, never mind lol), but I am completing a PhD in the area of biomedical sciences and I do know that Columbia/Cornell are regarded a bit more highly wrt biomedical research than NYU. This plus the actual data showing that they publish more in these areas than NYU makes me a bit more confident in believing this. To be very clear, NYU has excellent funding and great resources for students, I never denied this. But it is also true that both Columbia and Cornell have more funding (especially Columbia) and Cornell allows their students to conduct research at multiple allied institutions.
Wrt hospitals, that's fair. Would you say that NYUs hospital system is more well-regarded then? I'm just going off of reputation (not layman's prestige, but from physicians I know and work with...including my spouse)...what other metrics should be included? Could you explain what you mean?
Regarding match lists, I wasn't trying to make a point that Columbia/Cornell had better match lists (hence the "maybe" and "a bit"), but I just did what most other people did and went through their match lists. Like you said, they all three have great match lists. I don't think there's a meaningful difference between them.
Agreed that PD rankings aren't a big deal, but most comparisons between these schools are splitting hairs so I believe it still has some relevance, lol.
And with all due respect, I think you are strongly biased against certain areas of NYC. I have numerous family members and friends who live in NYC and they'd definitely choose Washington Heights over the around NYU. Not sure if you've surveyed Black/Brown NYers well or how well these groups are represented in your inner circles, but the people I know do not care for that area of NYC as much. I know I'd rather live elsewhere in the city too. Like I said, it's really just a matter of personal preference.
When I say diversity, I'm referring to student body diversity, which I believe is more important to the student's overall experience than hospital diversity. Also, NYC is an extremely diverse city, so I don't think students at any of the schools will struggle to have diversity in the patient population.
I do agree that a case can be made for all three of them, but I'm still not seeing the evidence to support your claim that NYU is "cemented" as top dog in NYC. Could you maybe elaborate on that a bit more?
