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WildZoo said:
This sounds so much like one of my coworkers. Who is also the one who tried to blame her disorganization with an appointment on me even though I had just been helping her move things along by setting up fecals and bw since it was a 3 pet room. :lame:
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yup. she's been a tech for 5+ years. and is a CVT. I'm really disappointed
 
dyachei said:
yup. she's been a tech for 5+ years. and is a CVT. I'm really disappointed
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:uhno:
At least the girl I work with has only been doing this for two months (though she is a CVA). Doesn't really excuse the dishonesty of course, which is the real problem. Sorry you're having to deal with that.
 
Going back to rabies and bites a little bit...

Today throughout my shift, I must've seen at least 5 patients who were not up to date on their rabies vaccine. Our protocol is that unvaccinated staff like me aren't supposed to even touch a patient who's not up to date, but we only had one assistant on tonight who was vaccinated, and she was being pulled in all sorts of directions. There was no way that she would've been able to cover every single not-up-to-date appointment unless she split herself in three, so I was basically forced to break protocol. Not the first time it's happened. Worse yet, the new relief vet I was working with wouldn't muzzle any of the dogs except the last one, and one of the ones that we didn't muzzle was a retired police GSD who initially greeted me by lunging and barking at me for a solid 5 minutes before finally calming down enough to let me cautiously do a TPR. It's a freaking miracle I didn't get bitten today, but if I had, I'd probably have been blamed for it even though we didn't have enough vaccinated staff to cover all of the animals and even though the doctor was the one who pushed the muzzles aside and handed me a bunch of treats instead.
 
Gonna have an unrelated rant regarding my SO 🙁 he took French as his foreign language, and was planning on graduating in May with me. Well, he decided to tell me today that he is seriously considering going to France to study abroad with our school this summer and pushing his graduation back until August. He already has met his requirements for foreign language for his major, so going would be solely "for fun". But the price of tuition, travel, etc is upwards of 8k for one month. His mom will pay for it, but it just seems like an outrageous amount of money to take classes that will do nothing for your degree. I wish he would just go on vacation instead and save all that money, but he wants the experience of studying abroad.
During the time he would be in France, I'll be in Europe backpacking with my cousin for our graduation (we have had this planned for over 7 years). My SO was going to stay home and work/relax all summer, and had agreed to take care of our 2 dogs, cat, snake, and fish, and plants, so now I have no idea what I'm going to do with all of the babies. He also missed out on HS graduation because it was too emotional due to the loss of his dad, so we didn't walk the stage together then... and he always promised that we would always have college graduation to experience together. But now he won't be graduating at the same time so we won't be walking the stage together again. It's not that big of a deal, but it was something that I was always kinda looking forward to doing together.
I really want to be happy for him because he's really excited, and he doesn't get to do fun stuff just for himself too often, but I can't help being a little upset.. I also feel a little hurt because we always had this plan that we would study abroad together but we never did because of work and responsibilities, and I couldn't afford it since I pay for school by myself. Ugh. I really shouldn't be upset because I'll be gone during that time also, and typing it out actually makes me feel a little silly. But anyways.. That's my rant!
 
WildZoo said:
Dogs with flailing heads are the worst. We had one so bad that we had to restrain her in lateral on the floor and she ended up just slamming her head into the ground instead. Turned out she would stand still and let you do whatever with zero restraint (other than a leash of course).
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I'm just lucky that I haven't been forced to bite my tongue or lose a tooth yet!
dyachei said:
yup. she's been a tech for 5+ years. and is a CVT. I'm really disappointed
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I guess there are bad apples in every job. We had a tech who had been a tech for over 10 years and was by far unfit for the career. Couldn't restrain an animal without getting angry and borderline abusive, had less anatomical/medical knowledge than I did, and couldn't even position for x-rays. There was also that tech that killed two animals within one month due to pure negligence alone. My lesson from those experiences: If you can't trust someone, don't keep them around.
 
MassDVMMPH said:
I personally believe vets are obligated to provide medical care no matter how aggressive an animal is.
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Say WHAT??

I'm not obligated to treat ANYTHING. And if I feel a particular patient can't be managed within a reasonable risk level with the staff, drugs, and equipment I've got, I am under ZERO obligation to treat it.

Maybe I don't understand what you mean?
 
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dyachei said:
this isn't the first time. But I can't make a unilateral decision. One of the other times, she opened a 4dx and the owner had only approved a hw only ELISA (we carry both). Instead of admitting her mistake and just using the test, she tried to tape it closed. When I saw the taped package the next day I asked if anyone knew anything about it. She said no, she had no idea. So I was like, well this can't happen again and we needed to toss the test. Only after a little while longer did she admit it was her.
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I'd fire. Trust is the one thing that you can't compromise on in a tech. You HAVE to know that if they make a mistake they'll own up to it. Otherwise .... What happens when they draw up and give 5 ml of a drug instead of 0.5.... Can you trust them to tell you so you can intervene? Or will they just sit there feeling bad inside but be too scared to admit to the error - and the animal pays the price?

Mistakes are one thing. But lying or deceiving .... Too big of a risk in the environment we work in. 🙁
 
Minnerbelle said:
Regardless, please tell me that tech was indeed fired. Because that was really really stupid. I wouldn't be able to trust someone like that after this type of blatant disregard for protocol.
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Unfortunately he wasn't fired for this particular incident, though he was fired recently for constantly calling out and lying about the reason.
dyachei said:
The bigger issue is the lying to me. I just don't tolerate that. people make mistakes, accidents happen. This specific tech keeps trying to hide her mistakes and I think I'm going to have to let her go.
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The place I worked did fire a tech for lying. She would lie about everything. The final straw was when she called out of work because she was in jail and she lied and said she was in the hospital with a ruptured ovarian cyst. It's obviously not a good idea to lie about anything, but especially don't lie about medical problems to doctors, they will figure it out!
 
Pugsforlove2014 said:
This crap going on in Paris right now, just absolutely staggering. France has already been a country that doesn't tolerate muslims well, and if this is tied to anything relating to ISIS, well it's going to get a lot worse now. That goes the same for all of the other European countries as well, especially at a time when all of the refugees are coming seeking shelter.
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I thought ISIS had indeed claimed responsibility.
 
Stb1473 said:
Who needs a veterinarian when you can just use some coconut oil? :bang:
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I feel this on a personal level. Because, y'know, coconut oil cures ear infections in St. Bernards.
 
Yep, and rat poison cures parvo. And marijuana cures cancer!!
 
Boards. In 11 days. FML.
 
hazelmoo said:
And marijuana cures cancer!!
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And the secret to finally getting rid of all that excess weight you've been piling on for years and years and years through poor diet and no exercise is the acai-blueberry-insert-scientific-sounding-compound-juice-extract pill you found by clicking a banner add on some celebrity gossip news site.
 
Just went through one of those parties where a friend tries to sell you stuff and it was for lotion sort of stuff. :bored:. I'm not the kind of person who goes for that thing. I have very minimal collection of skin/hair stuff. I know they invited me because I have the largest disposable income, but that is not something I'm interested in. I didn't even know it was a sale party thing. I thought we were just hanging out.

It really annoyed me because it was all that detox stuff. One fact she threw out was, "60% of what's on your skin is absorbed into your bloodstream in 24 seconds". THAT'S SO MISLEADING!!!! (Assuming it is true). It was all the vegan, gluten free, soy free, " all natural ", GMO free stuff. It drives me up a wall.
 
batsenecal said:
Just went through one of those parties where a friend tries to sell you stuff and it was for lotion sort of stuff. :bored:. I'm not the kind of person who goes for that thing. I have very minimal collection of skin/hair stuff. I know they invited me because I have the largest disposable income, but that is not something I'm interested in. I didn't even know it was a sale party thing. I thought we were just hanging out.

It really annoyed me because it was all that detox stuff. One fact she threw out was, "60% of what's on your skin is absorbed into your bloodstream in 24 seconds". THAT'S SO MISLEADING!!!! (Assuming it is true). It was all the vegan, gluten free, soy free, " all natural ", GMO free stuff. It drives me up a wall.
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If it was one of those things that tries to sign you on as a "business owner," they're called Multi-Level Marketing businesses, better known as pyramid schemes.

The skin absorption thing is bull****. We'd all be in serious trouble if that was true.
 
wheelin2vetmed said:
If it was one of those things that tries to sign you on as a "business owner," they're called Multi-Level Marketing businesses, better known as pyramid schemes.

The skin absorption thing is bull****. We'd all be in serious trouble if that was true.
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I was going to say, we'd all die of sepsis within a few days of birth.
 
It's crummy to get invited to a social event and have it turn into a surprise sales pitch. IMO, it's tacky and rude, but the people who do it think it's a lot of fun, so your friend may have meant well... Sorry you were misled like that by a friend.

MLMs are really pernicious, and social media seems to be the go-to method for promoting them now. A lot of my friends sell stuff for one of those or another, and it gets annoying when they talk about it all the time. I had to ignore one person on Facebook who was posting daily about 21 Day Fix or whatever the f it's called. She was mostly just copy/pasting sales pitches from forums, and it was getting really obnoxious.

Anyone else getting all those secret sister Christmas gift exchange thing invitations? That one is a literal pyramid scheme, and it's amazing to me how many of my friends have bought into it without thinking through how it could be possible for everyone involved to send only one gift and get back 36 or doing the math to figure out how many people would have to be involved in order for them to get 36 gifts if they're on the third level of the pyramid.
 
My MIL does It Works. I've been lucky enough to skirt by her events without attending, and she tends to leave me out of the loop. She's been making extra money doing it, and seems really dedicated. I just don't believe the products to be anything more than a placebo that covers hard work and exercise results.
 
When I first moved to this state, my neighbor next door to me had been talking with me. She offered me over one night to discuss a job that could make me a little extra money. I flat out told her if it is a pyramid scheme or selling some random product, I'm not interested. She insisted it wasn't.

I get there and get trapped discussing some BS pyramid scheme with her and her "business partner". It was some travel agency thing, would cost a **** ton of money to start into it then you only got "paid" in discounted travel, if you could get others to join. You could only actually make money if you were really damn good at convincing people to join.

I repeatedly made it clear that 1. I don't have the $300+ dollars to even start (would cost more with time). 2. I don't have time to travel, I'm in school. 3. I'm not interested, wasn't before you showed me everything, most definitely not now.

They kept insisting that this was "the next big thing in travel" and "you'll be seeing this all over the place soon with commercials and on the internet". They kept badgering me about, "really you can't travel?" They insisted they "aren't selling anything". I'm like what are you doing then when I have to spend $300 to join? Is that not selling??????

That's been over a year ago now. Have never heard of that company again.
 
The one I see all the time now is Plexus. Never tried it, but I see it EVERYWHERE.
 
Advocare is the big one here.. It seems like everyone is either using it, selling it, or swearing by it. I got a free sample of the energy drink thing and it didn't do jack for me.
 
DVMDream said:
Have never heard of that company again.
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Haha, that company is called YTB. I know that because my best friend's dad seriously made a lot of money through that company. But he's a salesman, and knows how to motivate people, so he'd make a lot of money doing anything.

They're all pyramid schemes. The money is not in the product, the money is in the people you sign up underneath you, plain and simple. I had an inside look at the travel thing because of my friend's dad, and it's all about the amount of people you sign up, and the amount of people they sign up. The money he made from selling actual plane tickets and hotel rooms was pennies on the dollar.

The people at the top who start the company are millionaires. The people like my friend's dad who know how to sell dreams move far up the ladder and get in with the big boys and girls. The average next door neighbor who pays $499 to get started (I believe they can't charge more than $500 based on some legal something) and hosts presentations in his/her garage never makes any money and ruins relationships with friends and family members trying to get everyone in on a business that gives "financial freedom." It's all a scam.
 
wheelin2vetmed said:
Haha, that company is called YTB. I know that because my best friend's dad seriously made a lot of money through that company. But he's a salesman, and knows how to motivate people, so he'd make a lot of money doing anything.

They're all pyramid schemes. The money is not in the product, the money is in the people you sign up underneath you, plain and simple. I had an inside look at the travel thing because of my friend's dad, and it's all about the amount of people you sign up, and the amount of people they sign up. The money he made from selling actual plane tickets and hotel rooms was pennies on the dollar.

The people at the top who start the company are millionaires. The people like my friend's dad who know how to sell dreams move far up the ladder and get in with the big boys and girls. The average next door neighbor who pays $499 to get started (I believe they can't charge more than $500 based on some legal something) and hosts presentations in his/her garage never makes any money and ruins relationships with friends and family members trying to get everyone in on a business that gives "financial freedom." It's all a scam.
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That isn't the same company. I'd recognize the name if I saw it. That definitely isn't it. I'm sure there are tons of them out there.

This company, you're not selling the plane tickets, hotel rooms, etc. That is all dealt with internally. You seriously just sign people up for them to sign more people up. It is stupid.
 
batsenecal said:
Just went through one of those parties where a friend tries to sell you stuff and it was for lotion sort of stuff. :bored:. I'm not the kind of person who goes for that thing. I have very minimal collection of skin/hair stuff. I know they invited me because I have the largest disposable income, but that is not something I'm interested in. I didn't even know it was a sale party thing. I thought we were just hanging out.

It really annoyed me because it was all that detox stuff. One fact she threw out was, "60% of what's on your skin is absorbed into your bloodstream in 24 seconds". THAT'S SO MISLEADING!!!! (Assuming it is true). It was all the vegan, gluten free, soy free, " all natural ", GMO free stuff. It drives me up a wall.
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Why even have skin if that were the case. People, I swear.
 
Yeah a friend of my husbands just tried to get him to join in LTD, a side project of Amway. Anyhow we were cautious from the start and it took a couple of meetings before we shook our heads and went the other. Sad thing is, this guy who approached him is getting married soon and was hoping to make some extra funds this way. Turns out, a couple months later, he's a couple thousand in the whole and not a whole lot closer to any profits.
 
My friend was hosting and the actual sales girl (acquaintance/friend from college) was doing it through Skype from New Mexico. Not even present. Which, in hind site, made it a lot easier to escape.

It also annoyed me that she's not realistic about what she's getting out of it. She wants her and her fiancé to be retired in the next five years so they can just focus on acting. Yeah, this isn't going to retire you at the age of 28-30.
 
batsenecal said:
It also annoyed me that she's not realistic about what she's getting out of it. She wants her and her fiancé to be retired in the next five years so they can just focus on acting. Yeah, this isn't going to retire you at the age of 28-30.
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That **** is funny.
 
hazelmoo said:
Advocare is the big one here.. It seems like everyone is either using it, selling it, or swearing by it. I got a free sample of the energy drink thing and it didn't do jack for me.
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I have 1 friend on FB that is about to be removed because all she does is promote this crap.

A former SDNer who will not be named was really into BeachBody and their associated shakes...
 
dyachei said:
I have 1 friend on FB that is about to be removed because all she does is promote this crap.

A former SDNer who will not be named was really into BeachBody and their associated shakes...
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I have deleted sooooo many. It's one thing to post statuses about "Try this body wrap, look at the difference!" "Try this disgusting smoothie mix!" I can just unfollow you. A few girls from my high school class actually starting private messaging me (all from different companies, too) asking me to try a sample or buy a trial. Most of it was weight loss crap (also a little offensive...). I just deleted them without responding. If I wanted to be assaulted by sales pitches, I'd walk closer to the carts in the mall.
 
hazelmoo said:
Advocare is the big one here.. It seems like everyone is either using it, selling it, or swearing by it. I got a free sample of the energy drink thing and it didn't do jack for me.
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We had an RA here who is big into Advocare and I must deleted her from Facebook. She was just so annoying. Not to mention she was a crappy RA, which is a completely different level of annoyance. Combine that with trying to sell me nutrition and exercise stuff, I'm out.
 
missdarjeeling said:
Going back to rabies and bites a little bit...

Today throughout my shift, I must've seen at least 5 patients who were not up to date on their rabies vaccine. Our protocol is that unvaccinated staff like me aren't supposed to even touch a patient who's not up to date, but we only had one assistant on tonight who was vaccinated, and she was being pulled in all sorts of directions. There was no way that she would've been able to cover every single not-up-to-date appointment unless she split herself in three, so I was basically forced to break protocol. Not the first time it's happened. Worse yet, the new relief vet I was working with wouldn't muzzle any of the dogs except the last one, and one of the ones that we didn't muzzle was a retired police GSD who initially greeted me by lunging and barking at me for a solid 5 minutes before finally calming down enough to let me cautiously do a TPR. It's a freaking miracle I didn't get bitten today, but if I had, I'd probably have been blamed for it even though we didn't have enough vaccinated staff to cover all of the animals and even though the doctor was the one who pushed the muzzles aside and handed me a bunch of treats instead.
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Wow. In a case like this you are well within your rights to tell your doctor and or the owner you need to muzzle the dog for safety, especially if they aren't up on their rabies vaccine. I've rarely had a doctor disagree with me on case like that on whether to muzzle, but personally if it's my health and safety on the line and I get a bad feeling about the pet or the animal is aggressive, I muzzle. It's just not worth the risk.
 
I had blood work done back in September and submitted under my insurance through the school. Apparently the claim didn't go through because I wasn't a member (not sure why, I have an account) and the bill was sent to my parents' address even though I'm like 95% sure that the student insurance is under my school address in Philly. Well, I owe $230...3 weeks ago. Just tried transferring it to my parents' plan which I'm still a member of (at least supposedly even though I'm now 26) so we'll see if I really end up having to pay the money. I'm just not really sure why it didn't go through on the student insurance since I payed for the plan as of August. I might still have a deductible which is fine, but I don't understand why I seem to keep not existing in various insurance things.
 
Stb1473 said:
When I was an RA, the RD of my area called a staff meeting for the 6 RA's of our building...she turned it into a meeting trying to get us to buy into this company. I was so mad. Said something to the higher-ups and she never got in trouble.
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That's totally inappropriate. I'm sorry your RD was a dingus.
 
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