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Hi,

I keep hearing people say how at penn and columbia like over half or like 80% or 90% of students specialize after grad. I'm not sure where people are gettin these numbers but according to figures I have obtained from the two schools here are the REAL figures of grad who specialized (NOT including GPR + AEGD);

Penn: In 2002 27% students specialized, in 2003 40% did

Columbia: from figure from the past few grad classes from their websites the # of students who specilized ranged from 28% to 38%.

So there are the figures as provided by the two schools which are quite a bit different then the numbers quoted by some people.


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a lot of Columbia students go onto specializing after doing a GPR or AEGD.
 
some schools consider AEGD or GPR as post-grad "speciality training"..............basically to specialize as a general dentist.....if that makes any sense. I've said before that columbia is something like 80% or somewhere around there.....but that also includes the aforementioned "general dentist speciality." I think 30% "real speciality" rate for columbia is pretty accurate for the 1st year out of dental school.

Also....you mentioned that you wanted to come to columbia cuz it was known for its strong research background. I dont know if that is true, cuz we really are not required to perform research prior to graduation. That's not to say that no one here wants to do research......... Most of the ppl who wanna specialize eventually will do some kind or research.
 

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Sometimes that stat also refers to the percentage of students that applied and were accepted. So only 27% of the students applied, but 80-90% fo those got in.
 
UW class of 2003 had 18 out of 54 go into speciality programs not counting GPR/AEGD which is a bit better than 30%.
 
According to a recent ADEA report, 4349 received their DDS/DMD in 2002 which would include those foreign trained dentists who were admitted into advanced standing programs. For those 4349 graduates, 2715 first year residency training programs were available. Of those 2715 spots, 1782 were GPR/AEGD with the remaining 933 slots divided amongst endo,oms,ortho,pedo,perio, and prost. There were also few slots for dental public health, dental radiology, etc but those numbers are insignificant.

So, I calculate on a broad and some what meaningless scale that for all dental schools combined, 60% of graduates are able to go on to residency training programs including GPR/AEGD, 40% to just GPR/AEGD, and 20% to the recgonized dental specialities.

I suspect a closer look at the numbers would also reveal that the east coast schools send a larger portion of their grads on to GPA/AEGD programs than to the midwest and west coast schools. I think this likely happens because a big portion of those programs are on the east coast and location becomes a major factor when graduates choose whether or not to do a GPR/AEGD.
 
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