Reckless Driving (Reduced)

[Notaquitter]

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I got a reckless driving reduced charge on my record, will that stop me from getting into a pharmacy school. That's the only blemish besides traffic tickets on my record. Yea it was reduced from a DUI. It was like 3 years ago.

 

[zelman]

I got a reckless driving reduced charge on my record, will that stop me from getting into a pharmacy school. That's the only blemish besides traffic tickets on my record. Yea it was reduced from a DUI. It was like 3 years ago.

Pharmacy schools will take anyone.

 

[Abby Atwood]

Pharmacy schools will take anyone.

People keep saying that, but my school only accepts about 25% of applicants. They are moderately selective. I think a lot of schools are.

To to original poster: I don't think it means you can't get into pharmacy school, but it might make it a bit harder.

 

[osujic1]

People keep saying that, but my school only accepts about 25% of applicants. They are moderately selective. I think a lot of schools are.

To to original poster: I don't think it means you can't get into pharmacy school, but it might make it a bit harder.

I feel like half the people who apply probably aren't qualified and do long as your stats are in order your competition is down to the remaining 50%.. if you don't think 25% is good just consider your pre-MD counters

 

[Abby Atwood]

I feel like half the people who apply probably aren't qualified and do long as your stats are in order your competition is down to the remaining 50%.. if you don't think 25% is good just consider your pre-MD counters

Yeah, it doesn't even compare. It also doesn't compare to undergrad Ivy League schools.

Still, using your estimations 1 in 2 qualified candidates might be turned down. Schools are a little more choosy than this forum makes them out to be. 🙂

 

[Dwardo]

I got a reckless driving reduced charge on my record, will that stop me from getting into a pharmacy school. That's the only blemish besides traffic tickets on my record. Yea it was reduced from a DUI. It was like 3 years ago.

You'll be fine as long as you write a decent explanation. People have gotten into pharmacy school with much worse. The other part of the equation is when you apply for your intern license, which could be a pain depending on the state. Again, write a decent explanation.

 

[Wickett]

Yeah, it doesn't even compare. It also doesn't compare to undergrad Ivy League schools.

Still, using your estimations 1 in 2 qualified candidates might be turned down. Schools are a little more choosy than this forum makes them out to be. 🙂

The more established schools are, but go look at the avg pcat and GPA scores of accepted students at the new schools. Avg pcat of 40 for incoming students at the school near where I live and kids can find a program no problem with sub 3.0 undergrad GPAs. It's a joke now.

 

[Apples2Oranges]

Sad to think these sub 3.0 and lower 50s pcat kids will graduate with the same degree as the 3.8 kids and 90 PCATs. Hopefully the smart kids know how to hustle for jobs. Backing out is not as easy of a decision once you're the one making it. SDN is so easy to tell people to quit.

But I take a lot of GPAs with a grain of salt. I knew some kids in high school who barely wrote coherent sentences but graduate 3.8s at ho-hum university while the top SAT takers and valedictorians struggle in top public and private schools. A friend I knew went to Yale and unfortunately got a 3.1 and was rejected from med school, while another kid at a state school got 3.9...and he was ranked 100th out of 300 in the class. A low GPA doesn't always mean a student is academically weak. It's unfair, but it's how the world works.

And your reckless driving will most likely do nothing towards your eligibility for pharm school, but it may for licensure or internships.

 

[Abby Atwood]

Grades and PCAT scores aren't everything. I entered pharmacy school with a 4.0, but I only completed prerequisites. PCAT scores are also only part of the picture. I scored in the 99th percentile, but I had no pharmacy experience. Admission statistics don't tell the whole story. Information about where graduates wind up is more relevant. That 3.0 undergrad student who scored in the 50th percentile on the PCAT might wind up in a clinical role with a couple board certifications 🙂

 

[AlwaysContrary]

The more established schools are, but go look at the avg pcat and GPA scores of accepted students at the new schools. Avg pcat of 40 for incoming students at the school near where I live and kids can find a program no problem with sub 3.0 undergrad GPAs. It's a joke now.

Those new schools are really ruining the profession.

 

[Wickett]

Grades and PCAT scores aren't everything. I entered pharmacy school with a 4.0, but I only completed prerequisites. PCAT scores are also only part of the picture. I scored in the 99th percentile, but I had no pharmacy experience. Admission statistics don't tell the whole story. Information about where graduates wind up is more relevant. That 3.0 undergrad student who scored in the 50th percentile on the PCAT might wind up in a clinical role with a couple board certifications 🙂

No one said grades and pcat scores are everything, but they are a good general barometer of the overall quality of students coming into pharmacy programs. In general, if you could barely hack it in undergrad, you are much more likely to struggle in pharmacy school. You also spoke of kids with a 3.0 and 50 pcat....I'm talking kids with a 2.5 and a 30s-40s pcat being the norm at these new schools. That simply isn't good enough.

Of course there are exceptions/people that didn't apply themselves in undergrad then do well later on, but it isn't debatable that the overall quality of students in pharmacy school is rapidly declining. Look at the first time board pass rates and % of kids not finishing programs straight through in schools with weaker admissions stats. It isn't debatable that a lot of kids getting into pharmacy school now would have little to no chance of getting in a decade ago. There should be a higher standard for the responsibility the job requires.

 

[lord999]

Sad to think these sub 3.0 and lower 50s pcat kids will graduate with the same degree as the 3.8 kids and 90 PCATs. Hopefully the smart kids know how to hustle for jobs. Backing out is not as easy of a decision once you're the one making it. SDN is so easy to tell people to quit.

But I take a lot of GPAs with a grain of salt. I knew some kids in high school who barely wrote coherent sentences but graduate 3.8s at ho-hum university while the top SAT takers and valedictorians struggle in top public and private schools. A friend I knew went to Yale and unfortunately got a 3.1 and was rejected from med school, while another kid at a state school got 3.9...and he was ranked 100th out of 300 in the class. A low GPA doesn't always mean a student is academically weak. It's unfair, but it's how the world works.

And your reckless driving will most likely do nothing towards your eligibility for pharm school, but it may for licensure or internships.

And, that's rather normal. With the exception of the engineering school (MIT and Caltech), there is a widespread perception that the Ivy League undergraduate programs are easier even in scince than their engineering schools (which are notoriously grade tough) or their state counterparts (who don't have the resources to care on a curve grading system).

After teaching these many years, much of the university performance comes down to whether or not someone is self-starting. I find that it is not rare for the academic valedictorians to have severe environmental pressure to succeed, but that alleviates in the university setting. There are other people who are annoyed by high school drama that they take it easy and shift to high gear in the university. The "right" way to do it is to have an insane pressure home life with the student being indoctrinated that going home after failing university would be the end of any enjoyable life possible while keeping the student sane.

And, there is a difference in the teaching as well as the GPA's. A 2.2. will get me through BS degree taught to the scientific (not clinical) standard is arguably a tougher standard than the present day clinical pharmacy curriculum. I certainly would have thought that doing the analytical chemistry as a prerequisite to the pharmaceutics lab would suck. I've seen the teaching standard decline dramatically. Pharmacy schools are much less selective about who they hire on as faculty, as no one without some sort of out would take the job for the rates being paid right now.

 

[Sparda29]

Nobody cares about reckless driving.

 

[AlwaysContrary]

the scientific (not clinical) standard is arguably a tougher standard than the present day clinical pharmacy curriculum.


This holds true to pretty much any clinical curriculum including medicine, Dentistry, etc. What's the scientific standard is most of the time not really clinical relevant.

 

[AlwaysContrary]

scientific (not clinical) standard is arguably a tougher standard than the present day clinical pharmacy curriculum.

This holds true to any clinical curriculum (i.e. medicine, dentistry, etc.). Scientific standard is usually not clinically relevant.