Reflections on my application year

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Hey everyone. This is going to be a long post, sorry in advance.

Most of you here on SDN are familiar with my story. I will be starting medical school in a few weeks and I just wanted to share some thoughts I had while reflecting on this past application year, as well as some of my own perspective looking forward.

I realize nothing I am going to say is really new or groundbreaking in any way, but as a poster who enjoys SDN for entertainment as well as the useful knowledge it provides, I want to give back in some small way. If what I say here can help anyone during their application cycle then it will be well worth it.

2 disclaimers;
1- I realize that I was very fortunate this past cycle, and that many on SDN are still struggling to get into medical school. This post is for a specific group of applicants, so please do not be offended if it doesn’t apply to you.
2- I know that I am not a very good writer. I am not trying to post some amazing piece of literary gold. Please judge on the content and not quality 🙂.

A brief description of my application, and how things turned out for me;

I am an Indiana resident with significant ties to Illinois (non-URM). I attended a good university on the east coast for four years. For various reasons I will not mention here, I wanted dearly to attend one of the 6 MD schools in (or around) the city of Chicago.

I had a lower than optimal GPA because I did not try that hard my first 2 years of college. I applied with a cGPA of 3.58 and a sGPA of 3.48. I thought that my upward trend would help admissions committees look past my GPA a bit.
Here is my science GPA upward trend:
First two years:
Gen Chem I, II----- B+, B
Calc I, II, III-------- C, C+, B-
Orgo I, II------------ B, B
Orgo Lab------------ B+, A
Linear Algebra----- A-

Last Two Years:
Bio I, II, Labs------ A, A, A, A
Biochem, Lab------ A, A
Analytical Chem--- A
Physics I,II Labs------ A, A, A, A
Physical Chem I,II--- A-, A-

My application was pretty much cookie-cutter and is summarized below;
-200 hrs volunteering at 2 different hospitals over the span of 2 years
-Shadowing experience
-Independent Research at school as well as a summer REU program at a good university.
-Biology Lab TA
-Work Experience in Industry
-Musician, member of school bands, recreational bands and instructor.
-Member of school's chemistry club
-My committee letter contained plenty of good LORs and I had a good PS.
-Some other good generic ECs

I thought that I was in a good position to apply pending a solid MCAT. I truly felt that despite my early GPA struggles, I had turned everything around in time to salvage a borderline GPA, and I was all set up to realize my medical school dream.

Then came the MCAT…

I used ExamKrackers to study for the MCAT for several months (no prep course) and I felt that I had learned many of the subjects well enough in class so that I wouldn’t need too much reviewing in order to do well. I took all the AAMC online practice tests and I was ready to take the MCAT. I took the test last April and was completely blind-sided when I got a 29--PS:11 VR: 8 BS: 10.

I was very depressed after getting my score. All the hard work I put in rectifying my GPA seemed like it was all for naught. See this thread for all the details http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=910858

Long story short I took the MCAT again in August and I pulled out a 35. I was super happy, and thought that with a 35 on my record I’d be sure to get into a bunch of solid MD programs. I was wrong.

My AMCAS was verified in July and once my MCAT score came in August I had all my secondaries done soon after. My first interview invite rolled in in September (my state school IU), and I thought many more were soon to follow. I got accepted to IU (a solid back up school I thought) in October and I was awaiting the mass of other schools to start sending me invites. They didn’t.

I was spending my application year doing clinical research at a medical center (with a medical school on campus, one that I wanted to go to badly). I spent my days neurotically checking SDN and all of the school-specific application threads constantly, wondering where my interview invites were. I sent update letters and called admissions offices every couple weeks inquiring about my status.

November came and went, December came and went, January, nothing.

I finally got my second interview invite from a school in Chicago in February – I was over the moon!!! I attended the interview and then -- silence. More silence. Waitlisted in March.

It was like a tease. I had grown so bitter over the course of the year, and I had become very cynical towards the entire process. I was cynical towards friends who were getting into better schools, pre-meds, admissions offices – I hated the players AND the game! I complained on SDN and people complained about me complaining even though I had been accepted to medical school. “People just didn’t understand,” I thought.

Then things started to change.

I began thinking about where I had been and where I had come from. I started to think about why I even applied to medical school and about my goals. I thought about all the people out there who try, try, and try again and still can’t make it.

I began to realize just how fortunate I truly was. I got bad grades. Lots of them. I received a less-than-desirable MCAT score. And after all that, all I wanted to do was to become a doctor. Well, it is now July 11th, 2013 and I know that I am going to be doctor. I will be attending a good medical school in a couple of weeks and I will be beginning my life-long journey in medicine.

Perspective. The medical school application cycle can be EXTREMELY stressful. There is so much to do, so much waiting, so much anxiety. It is easy to get lost in it all. It is easy to look at other people’s successes, and to become jealous, resentful and cynical.

At the end of the day, we all want to become doctors. Sure, certain schools will offer benefits that other seemingly do not. Sure, we would all love full scholarships to top schools. But when all is said and done, just remember why you decided to fill out your AMCAS. Why you spent the hours volunteering, the time doing research, the long nights studying.

In retrospect, did I act silly? Probably. Do other people have it worse? Oh yes, definitely. I know some people will post “I got accepted to medical school, wah wah”. Believe me, I now understand how silly it looks to complain despite being accepted. I really do. But while I was going through this roller-coaster of a year I didn’t think it was silly at all. I know what I felt, and what I felt was real. The unfortunate thing is that I don’t think I’m the only one who experiences this on SDN.

If I could give one piece of advice to those who are about to embark on their application season, and specifically to applicants who have hopes of attending specific schools (either by ranking or location or whatever), it is this; Goals are good. Dreams are good. They are necessary to achieve great things. But perspective is important. Perhaps you know this already. Perhaps I was the one idiot who got so immersed in it all that I couldn’t see it clearly. But just know that if healing people to the best of your ability is what you really want do, then don’t forget it! At the end of the day, that’s all that matters. Be positive. Be gracious. Become what you set out to become.

I would also like to thank everyone on SDN who helped me through this year, whether through their encouraging posts, constructive criticism, and of course all the humorous entertainment.

Thanks for reading and good luck!

Irish
 
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Agreed, DO NOT EXPECT ANYTHING, You will go crazy through the process. I checked my email 20+ times a day, and didn't receive an II until 2 months after my secondaries were in.

Detach yourself from the process guys, otherwise you will be burdened throughout this next year. No matter your stats, DETACH!!!!!
 
Very well said. Thanks for sharing all of that!
 
Thank you so much for sharing this. My AMCAS hasn't even been verified yet and I already feel myself being sucked into the cycle of paranoia and self-doubt. It's really important to focus on the "bigger picture" and remember that the whole application/admissions process is a crap shoot. Congratulations on being accepted, and good luck!
 
Thanks for the motivational "pep talk!" 😀

Congrats on getting accepted as well ^_^
 
They key is to enter the process with low expectations. I expect to be rejected from every school, so I have nothing to be disappointed about.
 
They key is to enter the process with low expectations. I expect to be rejected from every school, so I have nothing to be disappointed about.

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This is usually a good approach to most things in life.
 
They key is to enter the process with low expectations. I expect to be rejected from every school, so I have nothing to be disappointed about.

Seriously, even if your a 4.0/40, this is the best advice. I'm doing this as a reapp
 
They key is to enter the process with low expectations. I expect to be rejected from every school, so I have nothing to be disappointed about.

Aaliyah's "Try Again" just popped into my head. For real though, the road the success is different for each person!

I've already pre-accepted my "fate" and will be equally surprised/pleased whenever I receive an email about any secondaries :laugh:. Learn from your mistakes and try again if it doesn't work out!
 
Great post, Irish.

I really do believe that things work out for the best in the end. If I had been accepted last year, I'd be sitting in a very rural med school, with poor clinical experiences, and paying a ton of money as an OOSer for four years. Now, I've had a choice between three great schools, and feel that I have better options in terms of future residencies.

I remember how much you wanted to go to Chicago, Irish; I'm pretty sure you'll have a great chance at IU for a Chicago residency, if you choose. Good luck!
 
They key is to enter the process with low expectations. I expect to be rejected from every school, so I have nothing to be disappointed about.

I don't know, I entered this process in the same way as well but it has a way of making you more and more invested (emotionally and financially). This is just my experience though.
 
Great post, Irish.

I really do believe that things work out for the best in the end. If I had been accepted last year, I'd be sitting in a very rural med school, with poor clinical experiences, and paying a ton of money as an OOSer for four years. Now, I've had a choice between three great schools, and feel that I have better options in terms of future residencies.

I remember how much you wanted to go to Chicago, Irish; I'm pretty sure you'll have a great chance at IU for a Chicago residency, if you choose. Good luck!

😱 You got into another one? Congrats! 😀
 
Sounds like you learned a lot. That's good.

You sound a little disappointed about not going to med school in Chicago, which confuses me. You could (might?) have chosen IU's campus in Gary and been ~45 minutes away from downtown Chi-town, assuming you want to be there because of a person/activity that only exists in Chicagoland. That sounds like a fairly best case scenario to me.

Anyway, congratulations and good luck.
 
How many schools did you apply to? if you dont mind me asking
 
Hey everyone. This is going to be a long post, sorry in advance.

Most of you here on SDN are familiar with my story. I will be starting medical school in a few weeks and I just wanted to share some thoughts I had while reflecting on this past application year, as well as some of my own perspective looking forward.

I realize nothing I am going to say is really new or groundbreaking in any way, but as a poster who enjoys SDN for entertainment as well as the useful knowledge it provides, I want to give back in some small way. If what I say here can help anyone during their application cycle then it will be well worth it.

2 disclaimers;
1- I realize that I was very fortunate this past cycle, and that many on SDN are still struggling to get into medical school. This post is for a specific group of applicants, so please do not be offended if it doesn’t apply to you.
2- I know that I am not a very good writer. I am not trying to post some amazing piece of literary gold. Please judge on the content and not quality 🙂.

A brief description of my application, and how things turned out for me;

I am an Indiana resident with significant ties to Illinois (non-URM). I attended a good university on the east coast for four years. For various reasons I will not mention here, I wanted dearly to attend one of the 6 MD schools in (or around) the city of Chicago.

I had a lower than optimal GPA because I did not try that hard my first 2 years of college. I applied with a cGPA of 3.58 and a sGPA of 3.48. I thought that my upward trend would help admissions committees look past my GPA a bit.
Here is my science GPA upward trend:
First two years:
Gen Chem I, II----- B+, B
Calc I, II, III-------- C, C+, B-
Orgo I, II------------ B, B
Orgo Lab------------ B+, A
Linear Algebra----- A-

Last Two Years:
Bio I, II, Labs------ A, A, A, A
Biochem, Lab------ A, A
Analytical Chem--- A
Physics I,II Labs------ A, A, A, A
Physical Chem I,II--- A-, A-

My application was pretty much cookie-cutter and is summarized below;
-200 hrs volunteering at 2 different hospitals over the span of 2 years
-Shadowing experience
-Independent Research at school as well as a summer REU program at a good university.
-Biology Lab TA
-Work Experience in Industry
-Musician, member of school bands, recreational bands and instructor.
-Member of school's chemistry club
-My committee letter contained plenty of good LORs and I had a good PS.
-Some other good generic ECs

I thought that I was in a good position to apply pending a solid MCAT. I truly felt that despite my early GPA struggles, I had turned everything around in time to salvage a borderline GPA, and I was all set up to realize my medical school dream.

Then came the MCAT…

I used ExamKrackers to study for the MCAT for several months (no prep course) and I felt that I had learned many of the subjects well enough in class so that I wouldn’t need too much reviewing in order to do well. I took all the AAMC online practice tests and I was ready to take the MCAT. I took the test last April and was completely blind-sided when I got a 29--PS:11 VR: 8 BS: 10.

I was very depressed after getting my score. All the hard work I put in rectifying my GPA seemed like it was all for naught. See this thread for all the details http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=910858

Long story short I took the MCAT again in August and I pulled out a 35. I was super happy, and thought that with a 35 on my record I’d be sure to get into a bunch of solid MD programs. I was wrong.

My AMCAS was verified in July and once my MCAT score came in August I had all my secondaries done soon after. My first interview invite rolled in in September (my state school IU), and I thought many more were soon to follow. I got accepted to IU (a solid back up school I thought) in October and I was awaiting the mass of other schools to start sending me invites. They didn’t.

I was spending my application year doing clinical research at a medical center (with a medical school on campus, one that I wanted to go to badly). I spent my days neurotically checking SDN and all of the school-specific application threads constantly, wondering where my interview invites were. I sent update letters and called admissions offices every couple weeks inquiring about my status.

November came and went, December came and went, January, nothing.

I finally got my second interview invite from a school in Chicago in February – I was over the moon!!! I attended the interview and then -- silence. More silence. Waitlisted in March.

It was like a tease. I had grown so bitter over the course of the year, and I had become very cynical towards the entire process. I was cynical towards friends who were getting into better schools, pre-meds, admissions offices – I hated the players AND the game! I complained on SDN and people complained about me complaining even though I had been accepted to medical school. “People just didn’t understand,” I thought.

Then things started to change.

I began thinking about where I had been and where I had come from. I started to think about why I even applied to medical school and about my goals. I thought about all the people out there who try, try, and try again and still can’t make it.

I began to realize just how fortunate I truly was. I got bad grades. Lots of them. I received a less-than-desirable MCAT score. And after all that, all I wanted to do was to become a doctor. Well, it is now July 11th, 2013 and I know that I am going to be doctor. I will be attending a good medical school in a couple of weeks and I will be beginning my life-long journey in medicine.

Perspective. The medical school application cycle can be EXTREMELY stressful. There is so much to do, so much waiting, so much anxiety. It is easy to get lost in it all. It is easy to look at other people’s successes, and to become jealous, resentful and cynical.

At the end of the day, we all want to become doctors. Sure, certain schools will offer benefits that other seemingly do not. Sure, we would all love full scholarships to top schools. But when all is said and done, just remember why you decided to fill out your AMCAS. Why you spent the hours volunteering, the time doing research, the long nights studying.

In retrospect, did I act silly? Probably. Do other people have it worse? Oh yes, definitely. I know some people will post “I got accepted to medical school, wah wah”. Believe me, I now understand how silly it looks to complain despite being accepted. I really do. But while I was going through this roller-coaster of a year I didn’t think it was silly at all. I know what I felt, and what I felt was real. The unfortunate thing is that I don’t think I’m the only one who experiences this on SDN.

If I could give one piece of advice to those who are about to embark on their application season, and specifically to applicants who have hopes of attending specific schools (either by ranking or location or whatever), it is this; Goals are good. Dreams are good. They are necessary to achieve great things. But perspective is important. Perhaps you know this already. Perhaps I was the one idiot who got so immersed in it all that I couldn’t see it clearly. But just know that if healing people to the best of your ability is what you really want do, then don’t forget it! At the end of the day, that’s all that matters. Be positive. Be gracious. Become what you set out to become.

I would also like to thank everyone on SDN who helped me through this year, whether through their encouraging posts, constructive criticism, and of course all the humorous entertainment.

Thanks for reading and good luck!

Irish
Thanks for that Irish.... I needed a reminder as to why I was pursuing veterinary medicine to begin with. The last couple months I have done nothing but complain/stress about the massive loans I am about to take out for the next four years. But instead, I should be extremely grateful to have been accepted and to be pursuing my dream of becoming a doctor. Thanks for putting everyone back into perspective. Good luck this fall, wishing you well!
 
I have similar stats to you- hope i can say the same next year 🙁
 
Great post, Irish.

I'm a reapplicant and after getting 2 MD acceptances this cycle, I was hoping and praying I'd get in at a THIRD school, one which I liked better. I pretty much didn't want to fill out forms and get things sent it for the school I was currently accepted at (and at the time, where I would have been matriculating at) because I wanted so badly to go to my top choice -that third school. I didn't want to sign a lease, etc etc. Even though I hadn't yet gotten into this 3rd school, I was ignorantly assuming that I would, and pretty much planning my life around that.

Fortunately, my mom was there to keep me grounded and remind me of how just one year ago, I would have given ANYTHING for even one acceptance and I needed to keep that in mind and remember how I felt a year ago. You were spot on, Irish. Perspective is everything. Please, pop your ego bubbles now. It'll make this process much easier.
 
Brilliant post! Wow! As someone who also applied this cycle, you hit the nail on the head. I honestly had felt much the same way during the year, glad I'm not alone. After a few months, I was bitter and tired of the process. I had worked my tail off at school and sacrificed a lot to go through the whole admissions process and got waitlisted then rejected at both of my top choice schools. Thankfully I got accepted to my state schools in October as well, which were great programs. However, I still could not get over the waitlists and rejections.

Overall, I felt entitled, I felt like I put so much effort into this process, that I deserved my top choice schools. However, that mindset was very unhealthy and honestly, it was complete bull. I had friends who were just as, if not more qualified than me and they did not get into any MD programs until the end of the year from waitlists. I was so fortunate to have gotten in anywhere in October. Unlike many of my peers, as early as October I was able to have piece of mind knowing that I had at least somewhere to go after graduating. More than that, I got into med school, I was on the path to becoming a physician. Looking back on it all, I truly am fortunate for my acceptances and I am so happy now to be pursuing my dream after so long.

However, for a while I had lost sight of all that too and it was stupid of me to do so. I really appreciate you posting that Irish Football, as I thought I was alone in such feelings. It certainly is easy to get bitter in this process, but having perspective is incredibly important in preventing that. 🙂

I don't know, I entered this process in the same way as well but it has a way of making you more and more invested (emotionally and financially). This is just my experience though.

That's a really good point. Going into the process, I would have been ecstatic and never believed the state school I am going to would have accepted me. However, after getting interviews at other programs, taking time and energy away from my classes and normal life to drive to interviews and write updates and all that stuff, I got a little arrogant and the entitlement wave came crashing.
 
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