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Godsman08

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Hey. I'm HUGELY interested in becoming a surgeon. I can't think of anything else I want to do. I was just wondering....If all of you could do it over again and be anything in the world, would you still become a surgeon? Is all the schooling and stress and residency worth it? What are your favorite things about the job and your least favorite things? Any feedback would be GREATLY appreciated....just looking for some opinions from people already where I want to be. Thanks!

Jason
 
Still a resident, so take this with a grain of salt... but if I could do anything, I would still do this. My only regret is waiting a little too long with my previous career before going to med school (I'm non-traditional - which is what they call us older folk who are doing this).

Least favorite thing about the job - consults from people who are grasping at straws trying to save their patient & don't know what's happening. Most favorite thing - solving the puzzle and helping their patient <g>. Just kidding (somewhat). Most favorite thing - the ability to intervene and remove or fix pathology, and thereby make a significant difference in someone's life, even if it's as minor as taking out a troublesome gall bladder. When I was in medical school I had appendicitis (and oh, boy, was I in agony), so I sympathize with every appy that I see in the ED, and still get a sense of satisfaction sending them home the next day, "cured".

Would that everything in surgery was that clear-cut....

I see that your profile says "non-student". If you really want to put up with (ALOT) of hard work required to get into medical school, then go for it, but keep your mind open as far what type of physician you will be - do NOT funnel yourself into only one thing, because these hours are incredible, and if you were to discover that you didn't love this, it would really, really suck 😉

(BTW, I went to medical school fixated on emergency medicine. Luckily I kept an open mind)

Good luck to you
 
Hey. I'm HUGELY interested in becoming a surgeon. I can't think of anything else I want to do. I was just wondering....If all of you could do it over again and be anything in the world, would you still become a surgeon? Is all the schooling and stress and residency worth it? What are your favorite things about the job and your least favorite things? Any feedback would be GREATLY appreciated....just looking for some opinions from people already where I want to be. Thanks!

Jason

If you love it, the long hours quite bearable. I was always learning something new and doing something interesting. Personally, it was far more stressful for me to be doing something else. I love what I do period. If I didn't, I would not have pursued this.

What I hate most: Idiots!
What I love most: My patients.
 
The worst part of surgical training is that you spend years and years doing something other than surgery. You wonder why 20% of general surgery residents quit... it's not because they stopped loving surgery. It's because they have to endure endless crap as interns, junior residents, and sometimes upper level residents, just to someday get to do what they really set out for.

Medical students apply to surgery knowing that they will work harder and longer hours than most. I don't know anyone who went into surgery thinking the hours would be great. What most people underestimate is how much non-surgical non-educational garbage is forced on surgical residents. Surgery residency does not have to be 5 years and it does not have to be 120 hours a week. If surgeons in training were actually taught how to be surgeons rather than paperwork drones, we could easily train excellent surgeons in 3 years.

My regret is not that I chose to be a surgeon; my regret is that the educational process in surgery is so archaic and outdated that we are forced to deal with so much garbage, and quite frankly it's a shameful waste of time. The question is not whether surgery is worth working harder and longer than most. I like surgery a lot and to me, doing surgery is definitely worth putting in extra effort. I however don't agree that surgical residency is worth the extra time and sacrifice, because a shameful portion of that time is completely wasted doing mindless garbage.
 
The worst part of surgical training is that you spend years and years doing something other than surgery. You wonder why 20% of general surgery residents quit... it's not because they stopped loving surgery. It's because they have to endure endless crap as interns, junior residents, and sometimes upper level residents, just to someday get to do what they really set out for.

Medical students apply to surgery knowing that they will work harder and longer hours than most. I don't know anyone who went into surgery thinking the hours would be great. What most people underestimate is how much non-surgical non-educational garbage is forced on surgical residents. Surgery residency does not have to be 5 years and it does not have to be 120 hours a week. If surgeons in training were actually taught how to be surgeons rather than paperwork drones, we could easily train excellent surgeons in 3 years.

My regret is not that I chose to be a surgeon; my regret is that the educational process in surgery is so archaic and outdated that we are forced to deal with so much garbage, and quite frankly it's a shameful waste of time. The question is not whether surgery is worth working harder and longer than most. I like surgery a lot and to me, doing surgery is definitely worth putting in extra effort. I however don't agree that surgical residency is worth the extra time and sacrifice, because a shameful portion of that time is completely wasted doing mindless garbage.


Care to elaborate on the "garbage" that surgical residents must endure? Or what rotations seem useless to you?
 
The worst part of surgical training is that you spend years and years doing something other than surgery...

...most people underestimate is how much non-surgical non-educational garbage is forced on surgical residents. Surgery residency does not have to be 5 years and it does not have to be 120 hours a week...

...the educational process in surgery is so archaic and outdated that we are forced to deal with so much garbage, and quite frankly it's a shameful waste of time...
I have to somewhat agree with the general sentiment. It is 2008. There is enough educational knowledge and understanding how people learn to show the "old school" mentality does not really improve education... especially in the "adult learner". I wonder how much better someone might be (techniquely/intelectually) without the excessive barriers and wasted time and with modern teaching/learning principles put into place.

Remember, "we" as physicians/residents/attendings are suppose to be teachers... capable of teaching someone to take someone else's life into our hands. How many of us have actually had excellent training in how to "educate"...or did we just become teachers because we endured?


I would probably do it again.
 
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The worst part of surgical training is that you spend years and years doing something other than surgery. You wonder why 20% of general surgery residents quit... it's not because they stopped loving surgery. It's because they have to endure endless crap as interns, junior residents, and sometimes upper level residents, just to someday get to do what they really set out for.

Medical students apply to surgery knowing that they will work harder and longer hours than most. I don't know anyone who went into surgery thinking the hours would be great. What most people underestimate is how much non-surgical non-educational garbage is forced on surgical residents. Surgery residency does not have to be 5 years and it does not have to be 120 hours a week. If surgeons in training were actually taught how to be surgeons rather than paperwork drones, we could easily train excellent surgeons in 3 years.

My regret is not that I chose to be a surgeon; my regret is that the educational process in surgery is so archaic and outdated that we are forced to deal with so much garbage, and quite frankly it's a shameful waste of time. The question is not whether surgery is worth working harder and longer than most. I like surgery a lot and to me, doing surgery is definitely worth putting in extra effort. I however don't agree that surgical residency is worth the extra time and sacrifice, because a shameful portion of that time is completely wasted doing mindless garbage.

hear hear. i think you could say that about a lot of residencies. the training style is to throw so much shyt against the wall that enough of it will stick.
 
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