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I think just might be your solution...

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra_Vnxa6ijg[/YOUTUBE]
 
Blah blah, whine whine whine.

So let me get this straight.

1) you're bombing college. This is a college you originally considered to be beneath you, mind you, so imagine how you would have done had you gotten into McGill.

2) your excuse for bombing college is that...people around you are dumber than you are. So the people who are dumber than you are work hard, do well and bring you down with them. Mhm. Oh and you blame your ethnicity in that other thread, so that's pretty cool.

3) what exactly were you looking for with your post? If it's pity, think again. Many of us have been through worse, most of us didn't go to Harvard, and the vast majority of us did better than you. And didn't complain or insult our peers in the process. If you want reassurance...well that's not gonna happen. The truth is, your grades are awful. If you get 4.0's from now on and rock your MCAT (unlikely, considering the fact that you probably didnt rock your SAT's and you obviously have academic weaknesses) you may be able to get into a low-tier MD school, but if your self-confidence is really that tied to your school's rank (and if your performance is equally dependent on your location) then you're probably not going to like where you get in anyway because it won't be a top 10. I mean, you're not going to get into HMS. You're just not. And before you make another "oh you're a psychic, har har" joke, let me save you the embarrassment. I'm not a psychic. I don't need to be.

4) People far kinder than I am threw out the DO option out there because admission to DO schools is somewhat more lax, and your gpa would be fixable (you'd have to retake classes you performed poorly in). Nevertheless, you should be so lucky as to get into a DO school with your performance and attitude. And you threw it back in their faces, saying DOs aren't real doctors. Guess what else isn't a real doctor- a kid who doesn't get into med school.

So I strongly suggest you do some introspecting. You performed poorly in high school, you performed poorly in college, and instead of seeing it as a pattern you blame everything else possible. Maybe you're just not as smart as you'd like to think. Maybe you don't know how to study. Maybe you should focus on that instead of closing doors that are barely open in the first place on principle.
this is perhaps the greatest thing i've ever read. not just on the internets. i mean, ever.
 
@ GeekChick: if their just as good as MD's then why differentiate them as an MD and a DO? why not jst make them MD's too? Oh yea, because there is a difference.

Dude I was about to support you...because I also grew up in Albany. But your douche comments are unreal. I have been around the block at almost every single hospital in the capital district (memorial, samaritan, albany med, st petes) and DOs are just as highly regarded as MDs up there....so I dont know where you get your ideas from.

You need to grow up. Like another poster said its hilarious how the people with the worst GPAs and stats are the ones who are the most DO averse.
 
+1 😍 for ButImLETired's response.
like others, i had sympathy until i saw the "DO=/=doctor" commentary. perhaps you're unaware of the scope of practice of an osteopathic physician in the US versus that of an osteopath in the UK? if you know the difference, and still have a problem with DO, then please, i beg of you, don't ever change your mind and apply to DO schools. IF you get in, your classmates don't want to deal with your whining and inferiority complex. plus you'd be taking a spot from someone who genuinely wants it.
 
I'm not sure why the OP made this thread. It's clear that no one here can help him because he refuses to take another mindset.
 
I'm not sure why the OP made this thread. It's clear that no one here can help him because he refuses to take another mindset.

He made it because he wanted us to tell him that he could definitely become an MD, and not a DO because DO's are BAD (considering the physician that saw me when I had the worst abdominal pain in the world was a DO, I think they're wonderful).

OP, I had advice to give. I really did. And then you pulled that whole MD/DO comment, which clearly displays your immaturity. Lemme guess, you also want to be a world class cardio surgeon and you need to be working at the most prestigious hospital. Cut the crap. Most of us here are not becoming doctors for the ego trip. You need to grow the f*ck up and stop blaming everyone else for your shortcomings. Everyone goes through hard times, and while I sympathize truly for the loss of your grandfather, everything else you mentioned is a load of ****. You'd think that your disappointment in your school would have made you work harder so you could get into a good medical school or even transfer to a university you really liked.

Honestly, everyone has their problems, but you're certainly not the only one, and if you ask a non-traditional student like myself, we would laugh only because your issues - sans the family tragedy - are nothing more than a person who didn't want to try hard enough. Some of us have children, work full time jobs, and have a whole plethora of things we have to go through to get where we want to be, and all you're doing is blaming the people around you for your grades? Give me a break.

Sounds like what you need to do is get some therapy for your issues, and either shape up and get better grades, or realize medicine isn't for you, and considering your attitude, I hope you pick the latter.
 
I want to be a doctor, not a DO. Doctor = MD, DO = DO. So Osteopathic medicine is infact out of the question.

Wow, what a bold statement! I am a 3.8 student at an Ivy, and I don't look down at DO schools. DOs and MDs have the same scope of practice, and though you probably didn't notice, most of the doctors you have seen at your local hospital are DOs.

I think it's safe to stay that even DO schools are a stretch for you, and you will have to look at Caribbean schools.
 
Semantics 😳 People will ask why it isn't DOM and then chaos will ensue.

I wish they'd change it to MDO so this whole wretched ridiculousness would be put to an end.

Then MDs could be jealous that MDOs have more letters after their name!
 
D.O. [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4inIhwbF3A[/YOUTUBE]
 
Blah blah, whine whine whine.

So let me get this straight.

1) you're bombing college. This is a college you originally considered to be beneath you, mind you, so imagine how you would have done had you gotten into McGill.

2) your excuse for bombing college is that...people around you are dumber than you are. So the people who are dumber than you are work hard, do well and bring you down with them. Mhm. Oh and you blame your ethnicity in that other thread, so that's pretty cool.

3) what exactly were you looking for with your post? If it's pity, think again. Many of us have been through worse, most of us didn't go to Harvard, and the vast majority of us did better than you. And didn't complain or insult our peers in the process. If you want reassurance...well that's not gonna happen. The truth is, your grades are awful. If you get 4.0's from now on and rock your MCAT (unlikely, considering the fact that you probably didnt rock your SAT's and you obviously have academic weaknesses) you may be able to get into a low-tier MD school, but if your self-confidence is really that tied to your school's rank (and if your performance is equally dependent on your location) then you're probably not going to like where you get in anyway because it won't be a top 10. I mean, you're not going to get into HMS. You're just not. And before you make another "oh you're a psychic, har har" joke, let me save you the embarrassment. I'm not a psychic. I don't need to be.

4) People far kinder than I am threw out the DO option out there because admission to DO schools is somewhat more lax, and your gpa would be fixable (you'd have to retake classes you performed poorly in). Nevertheless, you should be so lucky as to get into a DO school with your performance and attitude. And you threw it back in their faces, saying DOs aren't real doctors. Guess what else isn't a real doctor- a kid who doesn't get into med school.

So I strongly suggest you do some introspecting. You performed poorly in high school, you performed poorly in college, and instead of seeing it as a pattern you blame everything else possible. Maybe you're just not as smart as you'd like to think. Maybe you don't know how to study. Maybe you should focus on that instead of closing doors that are barely open in the first place on principle.

OP got OWNED x5👍
 
I am not so ignorant to think that others have not overcome more difficult situations than myself. The difference between the OP and I is that I do not blame my shortcomings on the inherent problems in my life and then concurrently bash an institution and other people.

Forgive me. I meant my post to be a follow up on your argument. I'm saying that in fact there are people who have had it worse then the OP. I'm not saying that you haven't, and your right you don't blame others. Which is one of his problems.
 
this is perhaps the greatest thing i've ever read. not just on the internets. i mean, ever.
I know right, I wish I had that much sass 🙂

OP: you need a major attitude adjustment because from the sound of it, the only thing keeping you from being a doctor (MD or DO) is yourself.
 
I want to be a doctor, not a DO. Doctor = MD, DO = DO. So Osteopathic medicine is infact out of the question.

That's a horrible attitude, what you think you're better than any DO docs w/ grades like that. If you did want to be a "real doctor" I doubt your GPA would be so low.

The reason why you didn't get in......there are hundreds of students who have had "hard times", a lot worse than you trust me, and they don't ask for pity....they work their asses off and get good grades no matter what the conditions are. If you really wanted to be a doctor, you would do the same. STOP CRYING AND WORK HARD AT SOMETHING, instead of feeling sorry for yourself.

Stop looking for pity from med schools, you certainly won't get any. Sorry to be so blunt, but it's the truth....But if it's what you truly want, you'll prove me wrong.

Good luck with everything
 
I'm going to pile on this ******* too. Obviously this guy not only lacks the academic capacity but also the maturity level required to be handle the rigors of medical school. For your own sake, I hope you don't get into either MD or DO schools because you'll e completely destroyed mentally and academically. You think competing with people in HS/college was hard? You're going to be going against the cream of the crop in med school in terms of academic. You'll be lucky to be in the bottom 25% of the class. Also, I would hate a less whiny and deserving applicant not get a seat because of a whiny mentally immature kid like you.
 
Listen, guy, I started out college with a horrible gpa of 2.46. Sure, I could blame it on a hard transition from highschool to college, but in essence, it was ultimately my fault. I didn't try as hard as I should have. I didn't study properly, and it clearly showed on my transcript. However, unlike you, I decided to improve my grades in order to have a shot at med schools. DO and MD combined. After a few semesters of hard work I have brought my GPA up to a 3.3 and if I continue this trend, I should end with a 3.5 MD GPA and roughly 3.6 DO GPA (re took a class I failed.) The point I'm trying to get across is that I didn't let one horrible semester determine the rest of my life. I improved my study habits, got good grades and depending on a good MCAT will at least have somewhat of a shot at medschool, DO or MD.

To wrap it up, you either fix your attitude or you'll never get anywhere in life.
 
Forgive me. I meant my post to be a follow up on your argument. I'm saying that in fact there are people who have had it worse then the OP. I'm not saying that you haven't, and your right you don't blame others. Which is one of his problems.

I actually thought about that after i wrote this. In any case, no offense taken on my part, I hope the same goes for you!
 
OP, I thought you were whiny and full of excuses before this DO crap even started. You seem really ready to blame your own failures on outside factors. I honestly think you'll need a huge attitude adjustment if this is ever going to work for you
 
From what I get out of this thread is that your wanna be smart but not. Not everyone has the same intellectual capacity. Then there would be no "smart".

You could not handle high school. You could not handle college. But you failed at life when you tried to compare MD students superior to DO students. I really don't see how a student with 3.7 GPA is more superior than a someone with 3.3. I my self have c3.85.

Anyhow, this dude was probably just trolling trying to get everyone mad.
 
OP needs some serious soul searching.
 
ButImLETired: pure win.

Also:
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Edit: Ok, so maybe OP isn't a troll, but perhaps it would do some good for the OP to rehash his first post here on SDN (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=626595) and to reread the first line of advice he received.

At this point one year later, it's probably safe to assume that no matter what kosher advice is given, the OP will be frustratingly unwilling to accept it.
 
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Im sorry. I really am about the whole MD vs. DO thing. I guess I just wrote that out of anger when I found out that I was rejected, I realize it was completly out of line.

It is all my fault. I could have been so much better.

Your all correct. Im pathetic. Im worthless. Goodbye.
 
Blah blah, whine whine whine.

So let me get this straight.

1) you're bombing college. This is a college you originally considered to be beneath you, mind you, so imagine how you would have done had you gotten into McGill.

2) your excuse for bombing college is that...people around you are dumber than you are. So the people who are dumber than you are work hard, do well and bring you down with them. Mhm. Oh and you blame your ethnicity in that other thread, so that's pretty cool.

3) what exactly were you looking for with your post? If it's pity, think again. Many of us have been through worse, most of us didn't go to Harvard, and the vast majority of us did better than you. And didn't complain or insult our peers in the process. If you want reassurance...well that's not gonna happen. The truth is, your grades are awful. If you get 4.0's from now on and rock your MCAT (unlikely, considering the fact that you probably didnt rock your SAT's and you obviously have academic weaknesses) you may be able to get into a low-tier MD school, but if your self-confidence is really that tied to your school's rank (and if your performance is equally dependent on your location) then you're probably not going to like where you get in anyway because it won't be a top 10. I mean, you're not going to get into HMS. You're just not. And before you make another "oh you're a psychic, har har" joke, let me save you the embarrassment. I'm not a psychic. I don't need to be.

4) People far kinder than I am threw out the DO option out there because admission to DO schools is somewhat more lax, and your gpa would be fixable (you'd have to retake classes you performed poorly in). Nevertheless, you should be so lucky as to get into a DO school with your performance and attitude. And you threw it back in their faces, saying DOs aren't real doctors. Guess what else isn't a real doctor- a kid who doesn't get into med school.

So I strongly suggest you do some introspecting. You performed poorly in high school, you performed poorly in college, and instead of seeing it as a pattern you blame everything else possible. Maybe you're just not as smart as you'd like to think. Maybe you don't know how to study. Maybe you should focus on that instead of closing doors that are barely open in the first place on principle.

This is probably the greatest post I've ever read on SDN.

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OP, I thought you were whiny and full of excuses before this DO crap even started. You seem really ready to blame your own failures on outside factors. I honestly think you'll need a huge attitude adjustment if this is ever going to work for you

Agreed. Why would you complain about something you can't change?😡
 
Im sorry. I really am about the whole MD vs. DO thing. I guess I just wrote that out of anger when I found out that I was rejected, I realize it was completly out of line.

It is all my fault. I could have been so much better.

Your all correct. Im pathetic. Im worthless. Goodbye.

Seriously?

I've battled major depression.. hell, I'm STILL battling it, and have been for 10 years. And honestly, this whole 'woe is me' crap is getting on my damn nerves. Someone's a serious attention *****.

If you aren't a troll, get yourself some help.
 
Im sorry. I really am about the whole MD vs. DO thing. I guess I just wrote that out of anger when I found out that I was rejected, I realize it was completly out of line.

It is all my fault. I could have been so much better.

Your all correct. Im pathetic. Im worthless. Goodbye.

Pretty much true. You might want to work on your grammar too while you're at it.
 
Im sorry. I really am about the whole MD vs. DO thing. I guess I just wrote that out of anger when I found out that I was rejected, I realize it was completly out of line.

It is all my fault. I could have been so much better.

Your all correct. Im pathetic. Im worthless. Goodbye.

this is not fun, i really wanted this thread to drag out


disappointing.
 
this is not fun, i really wanted this thread to drag out


disappointing.

Going by the OP's post history, he makes these kinds of threads every few months, always along the same topic... so expect to see more.
 
I cared during the first post, then i read your second and the care is gone...Pretty much blunt,but get over yourself. If you wanted to actually become a doctor, you'll do everything that you can....including DO...if you REALLY wanted to be a doctor as an MD, maybe you would've realized what you had to do at least by the end of the first round of mistakes you made. and if you had personal issues, that's what withdrawing from school is for and most schools allow time taken off, just not consecutive semesters...
 
Im sorry. I really am about the whole MD vs. DO thing. I guess I just wrote that out of anger when I found out that I was rejected, I realize it was completly out of line.

It is all my fault. I could have been so much better.

Your all correct. Im pathetic. Im worthless. Goodbye.

assuming it's a real apology, apology accepted (i can speak only for myself of course). now you have to work on turning your life around. perhaps lay low for a bit around here and read how reapplicants have done it. try not to ruffle so many feathers when you come back (since others say you have a history of doing this kind of thing). seek professional help if necessary, to deal with feelings of worthlessness. you could have done better. but you didn't. so no point in beating yourself up over it. good luck.
ps if not a geniune apology, go away and never come back. 🙂
 
Im sorry. I really am about the whole MD vs. DO thing. I guess I just wrote that out of anger when I found out that I was rejected, I realize it was completly out of line.

It is all my fault. I could have been so much better.

Your all correct. Im pathetic. Im worthless. Goodbye.


"seek professional therapy."
 
Im sorry. I really am about the whole MD vs. DO thing. I guess I just wrote that out of anger when I found out that I was rejected, I realize it was completly out of line.

It is all my fault. I could have been so much better.

Your all correct. Im pathetic. Im worthless. Goodbye.

you are the woman, SDN is the Ronald McDonald

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one word of advice: be smarter than you are now
 
Regrets are the past crippling the present. Get on with it.
 
How did so many people give this guy any actual advice? from the second sentence I thought he was a troll.
 
How did so many people give this guy any actual advice? from the second sentence I thought he was a troll.

You know, even when it is not a troll thread after about five posts it is usually not about the OP anymore...
 
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