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I always argued with the lecturers in med school who pushed that crap.I'm gonna take a moment to vent because I'm so pissed. I want to go into internal medicine and do general outpatient medicine. My school heavily pushes this path of medicine, or so it seems. In a lecture they told us that the solution to the physician shortage was expanding the scope of practice of NP/PAs and training more of them. When I brought up that these midlevels are no more likely to go into primary care than a physician they essentially shut me down. How broken is our system that my MD school doesn't support us and makes you feel like your going against the status quo for implying there's a competency difference between an MD and NP/PA education level.
Reminds me of our stupid interprofessional sessions. I remember the PA student in my group saying "PA's are like co-pilots. They can do everything the pilot can do, they just don't always." Or something like that.My friend goes to a school where they brainwash them that NPs and PAs are equivalent and have the same training for primary care.
We were told that this was a way to get health care costs down and to provide health care to underserved areas. I asked why midlevels would be any more likely to serve underserved areas and I got no answer. They also didn't mention expanded residency spots as a potential solution either. Its important to note that this course is taught exclusively by PhDs. I wonder how their MD faculty would feel about this stance. No hate towards NP/PAs at all btw. They serve an important purpose in the health system, but they're supposed to complement physicians not replace them like the PhDs implied.
Pretty much this.It’s sad because they’re pushing this narrative to grow the GP practice without having to pay the expense of having an MD do it. There’s definitely a difference between a PA/NP and an MD, but they’re betting on the fact that most people that walk into a GP don’t have serious enough problems that require a MD, so the lower paid less qualified PA/NP can handle GP patients 7/10 times. The problem is the remaining 3 who have serious issues a PA/NP can’t diagnose properly, and often times are afraid to call up their GP in fear of it being nothing serious and looking stupid.
Who exactly told you this???I'm gonna take a moment to vent because I'm so pissed. I want to go into internal medicine and do general outpatient medicine. My school heavily pushes this path of medicine, or so it seems. In a lecture they told us that the solution to the physician shortage was expanding the scope of practice of NP/PAs and training more of them. When I brought up that these midlevels are no more likely to go into primary care than a physician they essentially shut me down. How broken is our system that my MD school doesn't support us and makes you feel like your going against the status quo for implying there's a competency difference between an MD and NP/PA education level.
Reminds me of our stupid interprofessional sessions. I remember the PA student in my group saying "PA's are like co-pilots. They can do everything the pilot can do, they just don't always." Or something like that.
Can someone explain from the school's point of view of why more students entering primary care is or is not a good thing? What does the school benefit from if the majority of students enter primary care specialties? I notice that trend even in top schools.
1. It's an easier match.
2. Addressing the "shortage"
3. State funding?
More like Pilot's AssistantBarf, lol. You're not a copilot, you're a flight attendant at best lol. Just kidding, but I hate it
It's not that the school benefits, but that the school has a mission. It exists to serve to local populace.Can someone explain from the school's point of view of why more students entering primary care is or is not a good thing? What does the school benefit from if the majority of students enter primary care specialties? I notice that trend even in top schools.
Riiiiight. That explains all the med spa clinics run by online degree NPs opening like wildfire in Miami, what an undeserved area/patient population!!!!!get health care costs down and to provide health care to underserved areas
Turns out that despite not knowing as much medicine, they can count money just as well as doctorsRiiiiight. That explains all the med spa clinics run by online degree NPs opening like wildfire in Miami, what an undeserved area/patient population!!!!!
More like Pilot’sAssistant
Aw shoot, I messed it up lolFTFY
Schools get money from the State for each person that matches into primary care. That's why.Can someone explain from the school's point of view of why more students entering primary care is or is not a good thing? What does the school benefit from if the majority of students enter primary care specialties? I notice that trend even in top schools.
?Schools get money from the State for each person that matches into primary care. That's why.
That's demeaning. You should call them Pilot Associates or Advanced Pilot Practitioners.More like Pilot's Assistant
That's demeaning. You should call them Pilot Associates or Advanced Pilot Practitioners.
More like Pilot's Assistant
More like Assistant to the Pilot.