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[WYskier]

I counted mine. If you are on the team as a WEMT, you are there as a medical practitioner

 

[Catalystik]

Would working as a wilderness EMT on a search and rescue team be okay to count as clinical experience? Once subjects are located, they often require medical care before they can be transported and thus become patients but a large portion of search and rescue time is spent finding subjects rather than providing medical care, so I'm hesitant to count these hours towards clinical experience as much as I would like to...

Why not divide the activity into two portions: One being Nonclinical Search and Rescue hours and the other being Clinical EMT hours, taking care not to double count the hours.

Alternatively, put it all in one space, classifying it either under "Other" or under the dominant category, ie, Nonclinical Search and Rescue, but stating in the description that 10% (or whatever) of the time you use EMT skills. The name of the space could include both roles.

Just be transparent and you'll be fine.

 

[WYskier]

Why not divide the activity into two portions: One being Nonclinical Search and Rescue hours and the other being Clinical EMT hours, taking care not to double count the hours.

Alternatively, put it all in one space, classifying it either under "Other" or under the dominant category, ie, Nonclinical Search and Rescue, but stating in the description that 10% (or whatever) of the time you use EMT skills. The name of the space could include both roles.

Just be transparent and you'll be fine.

For me, I didn't want to waste an activity slot , since I'm nontrad and had plenty to fill out 15. It was one of my most meaningful so I was able to highlight the whole experience, and communicate that while there was time that was spent not directly providing patient care, but I wouldn't have joined the team had I not been a WEMT, so I counted it as clinical.

 

[petzlpro]

For me, I didn't want to waste an activity slot , since I'm nontrad and had plenty to fill out 15. It was one of my most meaningful so I was able to highlight the whole experience, and communicate that while there was time that was spent not directly providing patient care, but I wouldn't have joined the team had I not been a WEMT, so I counted it as clinical.

I think there is also an argument to be made that for a lot of the experiences that applicants list as clinical, a large proportion of the time is not spent interacting with patients. For example, I'm sure many hospital volunteers include the time they spend waiting for assignments towards their claimed hours despite the case that those hours include no patient interaction nor direct benefit. Likewise, many EMTs spend a large proportion of their hours waiting for calls and not serving patients. So I guess the question is, where is the line? What proportion of time has to be spent directly with patients or involved in other clinical activities for it to be okay to count all of the hours spent doing a given activity as clinical? It sounds like as long as one is transparent in their description, it does not make much of a difference, but I could be misinterpreting.

 

[WYskier]

I think there is also an argument to be made that for a lot of the experiences that applicants list as clinical, a large proportion of the time is not spent interacting with patients. For example, I'm sure many hospital volunteers include the time they spend waiting for assignments towards their claimed hours despite the case that those hours include no patient interaction nor direct benefit. Likewise, many EMTs spend a large proportion of their hours waiting for calls and not serving patients. So I guess the question is, where is the line? What proportion of time has to be spent directly with patients or involved in other clinical activities for it to be okay to count all of the hours spent doing a given activity as clinical? It sounds like as long as one is transparent in their description, it does not make much of a difference, but I could be misinterpreting.

No disagreement there. In my ICU tech, ambulance EMT, and SAR work, there has certainly been some significant amount of time that has not been directly interacting with patients and providing medical care. I would still argue that the context is probably the most important part when it comes to determining what type of activity it can be listed as.