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Hey guys,
So i finished my first semester and got a C- in my chemistry135 course. The course was a requirement for engineers and after taking and looking at the future difficulty of courses that do not interest me I realize that engineering is not for me and plan on majoring in biology and math (might minor if not enough space). My question now is should I repeat the chemistry course using freshmen forgiveness to have the grade not factored into my GPA and boost my GPA or should i move on to orgo 1. One of the main reasons Chem135 was hard for me was because my teacher incorporated a lot of orgo such as identifying and predicting reaction mechanisms also naming and identifying functional groups in our unit involving VSERP theory, but I forced my self to fully learn the material for the final and pass our last exam which saved my grade. There course consisted of 3 exams, a final, 4 mastering chemistry, and 100 clicker points. I earned a 48% on the first exam which had an average of 58%(resonance, quantum atomic model stuff,and other basic chemistry), a 18% on the orgo filled exam which had an average of 51%, a 92% on the third exam which had an average of 74%(gas law, intermolecular forces,rate laws, concentration, and bond energy using organic molecule drawing), and a 68% on the final (studied so hard my roommate said i woke up reciting chemistry formulas and talking about acid base reactions). The class was curved and in the end i was curved from a 52 to a 73%. I really wish i had gotten a little higher on the final but the main reason i didn't was because i missed an entire 20 points on an electrochemistry problem i had no idea how to solve. Anywho i honestly believe that my grade would have been higher if i had taken the chemistry 131 (course required for biology majors and pre-med students) which had no orgo introduction chapter and no electrochemistry, reaction orders, or hybridization chapters. Although the course was extremely challenging and significantly dropped my GPA, i have to admit that i now know a good amount of orgo coming out and will not struggle to pass at least the first exam of my next course and i now know how to study ( didn't really have to in HS because i had 4.2 without even reading most of my textbooks). Additionally, my teacher for chem135 is teaching orgo1 should i take her if i choose to do orgo since i know how she teaches or go with the beloved orgo1 teacher at my school because every one says he's good at explaining concepts and has straightforward exams.
 

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Hey guys,
So i finished my first semester and got a C- in my chemistry135 course. The course was a requirement for engineers and after taking and looking at the future difficulty of courses that do not interest me I realize that engineering is not for me and plan on majoring in biology and math (might minor if not enough space). My question now is should I repeat the chemistry course using freshmen forgiveness to have the grade not factored into my GPA and boost my GPA or should i move on to orgo 1. One of the main reasons Chem135 was hard for me was because my teacher incorporated a lot of orgo such as identifying and predicting reaction mechanisms also naming and identifying functional groups in our unit involving VSERP theory, but I forced my self to fully learn the material for the final and pass our last exam which saved my grade. There course consisted of 3 exams, a final, 4 mastering chemistry, and 100 clicker points. I earned a 48% on the first exam which had an average of 58%(resonance, quantum atomic model stuff,and other basic chemistry), a 18% on the orgo filled exam which had an average of 51%, a 92% on the third exam which had an average of 74%(gas law, intermolecular forces,rate laws, concentration, and bond energy using organic molecule drawing), and a 68% on the final (studied so hard my roommate said i woke up reciting chemistry formulas and talking about acid base reactions). The class was curved and in the end i was curved from a 52 to a 73%. I really wish i had gotten a little higher on the final but the main reason i didn't was because i missed an entire 20 points on an electrochemistry problem i had no idea how to solve. Anywho i honestly believe that my grade would have been higher if i had taken the chemistry 131 (course required for biology majors and pre-med students) which had no orgo introduction chapter and no electrochemistry, reaction orders, or hybridization chapters. Although the course was extremely challenging and significantly dropped my GPA, i have to admit that i now know a good amount of orgo coming out and will not struggle to pass at least the first exam of my next course and i now know how to study ( didn't really have to in HS because i had 4.2 without even reading most of my textbooks). Additionally, my teacher for chem135 is teaching orgo1 should i take her if i choose to do orgo since i know how she teaches or go with the beloved orgo1 teacher at my school because every one says he's good at explaining concepts and has straightforward exams.
Regardless of your school's forgiveness policy, the C- will be factored into your AAMC gpa calculation. At this point you should write the Chem135 off and focus on what is best for you moving forward...you can't go back and you cannot undo that grade.

It sounds like you want to change majors and sort of start fresh. Good for you! Go for it. By the time you graduate, a single low grade in freshman fall will be forgiven if the rest of your track record is good. Most people have the same issue with the transition as you did - HS doesn't really require studying, some college courses do - and so a few initial missteps are not uncommon. You don't even necessarily have to retake intro Chem, though you may of course choose to at some point. Map out which courses you have to take from this point on. Make sure you include some sort of general chemistry course, as it sounds as if you're not yet finished with the MCAT chemistry materials (electrochem is definitely on there!) Once you've done that, don't look back!

PS I would not take orgo from that prof, since you did not seem to click particularly well with her pace or methods. Use the organic material you've already been exposed to as an advantage, but stick with the prof you think you will learn from best.
 

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Do you go to UMD for college?
Anyway, I think you should move on to Orgo, but I agree with the poster above--try to avoid this professor if you believe that her style of teaching/testing won't suit you no matter how hard you try. That being said, Orgo I is a hard course and you should be prepared to consistently work hard and be challenged no matter which prof you take it with (even the one that is universally considered to be "easy").
Don't worry too much about this C, and try to get an A in orgo. It will look much better on your transcript than repeating Gen Chem and possibly getting a higher grade. Generally, medical schools like to see better grades in higher-level courses than repeated attempts (from what I have heard). Also, they are generally forgiving of a few bad grades in the freshman year, as long as you improve in subsequent years.
 
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yea i go to umd cp. also thanks for the advice although it was not what i want to hear. I guess my last question is "will med schools look down on my gen chem repeat even if i get an A the second time?"
 
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yea i go to umd cp. also thanks for the advice although it was not what i want to hear. I guess my last question is "will med schools look down on my gen chem repeat even if i get an A the second time?"
They won't necessarily look down on your repeat if you get an A the second time (but both the C- and A would be used for your GPA calculation). It is considered to be more impressive when you are able to prove your competence in a more advanced course rather than in a repeated attempt of the same course. If your college does not allow you to move on to Orgo with a C- in gen chem OR if you feel like you are not ready to pursue orgo with your current gen chem background, only then should you consider repeating gen chem. Otherwise, it would be a much more worthwhile use of your time to take Orgo next and focus on acing it.
 
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