Research oriented medical schools

[mdcool]

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Hello~~~
I have a quick question...
which med schools are more research oriented than others...
If you know any....please let me know.

Thanks. 😍

 

[Kazema]

Generally speaking the med schools ranking on the US News research schools list are the more research-oriented ones.

 

[hobs]

case is starting to head towards a greater emphasis on medical student research. there's going to be an MD thesis requirement for the incoming first years (suckers!), and the new dean is way into getting students more involved with scholarly activities.

 

[SoulRFlare]

case is starting to head towards a greater emphasis on medical student research. there's going to be an MD thesis requirement for the incoming first years (suckers!), and the new dean is way into getting students more involved with scholarly activities.

I think that 90-some people in my class of 120 (excluding MD/PhD’s and the Clinic students, both of whom are actively involved in reseach as a part of their respective programs) are doing Crile Fellowship research this summer--up from 20 or 30 last year. The Crile is a Case stipend for summer research activities, but I don't know if/how that will change with the new curriculum, which will involve 1.5 years of basic science in order to accommodate the thesis requirement. Dr. Horwitz is really interested in emphasizing research, which is a very good thing.

Research allows us to hone our precision and attention to detail before it becomes a matter of life and death/morbidity. For one thing, it's invaluable experience that we can apply during our residencies. Furthermore, research fosters an appreciation for the foundations we rely upon as clinicians, and affords us the flexibility to pursue our own projects if and when we decide to become PI's.

I'm a few weeks into my project in the department of neurosciences here at Case, and I love the opportunity for "hands on practice/experience." The project I'm working on involves manual care (the tissue slices are 50 micron thick after all), multitasking, and demands continuous attention to detail amidst repetitive tasks. Even though I am interested in surgery, I believe these skills are essential for physicians of all stripes, whether med docs, psychiatrists, or surgeons...My dad, who is a psychiatrist and alumnus of Duke, recently told me that obsessive attention to detail is an adaptive trait for all doctors. I think the sooner that trait is sharpened in both the “thinking” and “doing” arenas, the better we, as well as our future patients will be.

Research is a must, even for people who are interested in primary care. The first two years of medical school are extremely "ivory tower", but medicine itself is discipline of creative thinking and doing. One can't go wrong with research experience, and in fact, I lament the fact that I may not have the chance to do more lab work once classes get rolling again.

There's still a great deal of mystery in medicine, and it behooves us as future physicians to step in on the ground floor, get wet behind the ears, and train our minds to “do” as well as to "think". Medicine is an art form akin to music, where one must develop knowledge, technical skill, a sensitive hand and a sensitive mind, as well as an aesthetic sense of balance and natural beauty. Research, I believe, is a powerful avenue for us to perfect these skills prior to our first day on the wards.

 

[rpkall]

Here's my contribution to this:

If you don't like research, and you're interested in clinical medicine (even if not primary care), there are probably a lot of things you could do that would be more enjoyable than pipetting.

Like a student run clinic, shadowing a specialty you like, a school program in rural medicine/summer in the boonies, research on the medical humanities, hospice management/shadowing, psychiatry, etc, etc. Something that exposes you to patients and management decisions, case studies, etc.

Personally, I just wasn't a research person. That doesn't mean I can't read the papers that are of interest and relevance to me in my chosen field. I agree that it's very important to stay well educated and well versed in new theories and the principles of research design, etc. But I don't think you need to be a highly research-driven physician to be a good physician. Knowing how to apply theories at the bedside is a different skill--and I think it takes years of practice and clinical experience to do this well.

That said, don't go to a research school and turn your back on the opportunities to get great research experience. If you're not a research person, go to a school where there's less emphasis on it.

Just my $0.02. 😉


p.s. Don't you think administrations that push research on students are at least as much concerned with incoming grant money, cheap research labor, and achieving higher rankings on paper as they are with actually enhancing the education of their students?

 

[mdcool]

I think that 90-some people in my class of 120 (excluding MD/PhD’s and the Clinic students, both of whom are actively involved in reseach as a part of their respective programs) are doing Crile Fellowship research this summer--up from 20 or 30 last year. The Crile is a Case stipend for summer research activities, but I don't know if/how that will change with the new curriculum, which will involve 1.5 years of basic science in order to accommodate the thesis requirement. Dr. Horwitz is really interested in emphasizing research, which is a very good thing.

Research allows us to hone our precision and attention to detail before it becomes a matter of life and death/morbidity. For one thing, it's invaluable experience that we can apply during our residencies. Furthermore, research fosters an appreciation for the foundations we rely upon as clinicians, and affords us the flexibility to pursue our own projects if and when we decide to become PI's.

I'm a few weeks into my project in the department of neurosciences here at Case, and I love the opportunity for "hands on practice/experience." The project I'm working on involves manual care (the tissue slices are 50 micron thick after all), multitasking, and demands continuous attention to detail amidst repetitive tasks. Even though I am interested in surgery, I believe these skills are essential for physicians of all stripes, whether med docs, psychiatrists, or surgeons...My dad, who is a psychiatrist and alumnus of Duke, recently told me that obsessive attention to detail is an adaptive trait for all doctors. I think the sooner that trait is sharpened in both the “thinking” and “doing” arenas, the better we, as well as our future patients will be.

Research is a must, even for people who are interested in primary care. The first two years of medical school are extremely "ivory tower", but medicine itself is discipline of creative thinking and doing. One can't go wrong with research experience, and in fact, I lament the fact that I may not have the chance to do more lab work once classes get rolling again.

There's still a great deal of mystery in medicine, and it behooves us as future physicians to step in on the ground floor, get wet behind the ears, and train our minds to “do” as well as to "think". Medicine is an art form akin to music, where one must develop knowledge, technical skill, a sensitive hand and a sensitive mind, as well as an aesthetic sense of balance and natural beauty. Research, I believe, is a powerful avenue for us to perfect these skills prior to our first day on the wards.

Great Story.....I'm impressed.
Thank you.