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I was given some advice to post on this forum about research in medical school. I am interested in ophthalmology and want to get started on some research. I have a few questions about this. 1) What kind of research and how much will make you competitive? 2) I was interested in doing some during M1 summer and was thinking about doing some away from my home institution. Would this be a pro or a con? Is it even possible to do notable research and get publication worthy material in 8-10 weeks time? Or should I stay at my home institution where I would be familiar with the mentors and labs? I appreciate everyone taking their time to read this. Thanks a lot!
 
M3 here, so take what I say with that in mind. However, I do have quite a bit of experience with research.

1) obviously ophtho research would be best if you are interested in ophtho. I guess it depends on what else you are interested in. If you are also interested in internal, then doing ophtho research is def the way to go since internal doesn't require any research really. More difficult if you are interested in other things that are competitive.

2) My take is that it would be better to stay at your home program and work with the folks there. It usually takes a long time to get enough work done to get a pub out of it, so working at your home program gives you more time (unless you are just talking a poster, then it would be much more doable). Plus, at your home program, you would be able to foster a relationship with the people that you will be working with for the next couple years.
 
M3 here, so take what I say with that in mind. However, I do have quite a bit of experience with research.

1) obviously ophtho research would be best if you are interested in ophtho. I guess it depends on what else you are interested in. If you are also interested in internal, then doing ophtho research is def the way to go since internal doesn't require any research really. More difficult if you are interested in other things that are competitive.

2) My take is that it would be better to stay at your home program and work with the folks there. It usually takes a long time to get enough work done to get a pub out of it, so working at your home program gives you more time (unless you are just talking a poster, then it would be much more doable). Plus, at your home program, you would be able to foster a relationship with the people that you will be working with for the next couple years.
Thanks for the reply! I was talking more about clinical vs. basic science or different types of ophtho research
 
My advice - take with a grain of salt 🙂

I spent several years doing full-time basic science research. I think if you aren't going to take a year off and don't have a HUGE passion for basic science research, I would recommend doing clinical/QI research. Some translational projects are doable, like where you get samples from a surgeon and then run a high output test or use the tissue for something relatively simple or repetitive and then are able to present that data. That could be really nice, but again you have to be passionate about basic science and working in a lab. It helps to have prior experience…

Clinical projects with a pre-existing database or retrospective studies or case studies can be done easier, because you don't have to be THERE all the time or at a set time. There is flexibility in scheduling. In a lab you need to be there to run experiments and if your med school curriculum doesn't allow you to blow off all your classes and watch them later online, it can be rough. Some lab work requires you to be there every 8 hours or 4 hours or days a time, especially when it's involving cell culture or animals. If you have a set number of experiments and a very good research plan over 8 weeks to yield you a poster, then a lab project could work.

Picking a mentor? This is tough. Try to meet with a few people, see if you can have a conversation with them or if they intimidate you. Look at their work - are they publishing a lot? Do they have research that interests you? Do they have a specific project in mind for you or is it, "just come to my lab, and see what you can do". If they don't have something in mind, the chances of you getting stuff done in 8 weeks is limited. Even if you intend to make it a longitudinal project, if they don't have something in mind and someone for you to meet and mentor with you directly in lab or if they can't mentor you themselves, it's already off to a bad start IMO. Same goes for clinical… make sure they have a project lined up for you or an area they want you to focus on with a clear idea of what your role would be and how you could contribute. Find out if there are other players…If there are already 4 students working on this project and you're just lending a hand, you likely won't have 2nd authorship on a paper or even be first author on a poster.

In terms of what types of research makes you most competitive:

Obviously, any good work that is high profile or ends up being published in a high profile journal is impressive, but for most programs the people interviewing you are clinicians. They think if you publish in IOVS that's awesome. In reality, the impact factor of IOVS in the basic science world isn't all that high. Because it's a eye journal, ophthalmologists know it and are impressed by it. The reality is, you don't need to publish to get a competitive residency. It helps, certainly, but I know people that have one ARVO poster and have matched amazing.

The things that will make you most competitive are: Step 1, possibly getting AOA, though it doesn't matter as much if you kill step 1, good clinical reviews/grades and good letters. I met people on the interview trail that did all different kinds of research and if they could speak well about it or were passionate about it, it went a long way.

In summary, my advice:
1) pick a clinical project unless you really want to do basic science.
2) pick a mentor who already has something in mind for you, unless you have your own research idea
3) try and get a poster out of the 8 weeks at least and possibly convert into longitudinal project --> paper. You don't have to be first author on a paper though that would be cool, but you should definitely be first author on the poster.
4) Do well on step 1.
 
Fantastic post by DrZeke. I agree with everything mentioned.

I'd like to further emphasize the relative importance of clinical research. Even if you end up doing great basic science work, I would still try participating in something clinical, at least one project, whether it be a case report, small series, review, or book chapter. It's more amenable to a medical student's schedule as DrZeke mentions, it's a great learning experience, and you'll have a lot more to discuss during interviews.

Out of ~100 interviewers I met during residency application, 0 asked me about my basic science work that I was proud of, while 100% asked about some of my clinical stuff. It's still a great thing to have on your CV though and it IS noticed, but it's just hard for interviewers to discuss in a 10-15 minute interview if they're not in the same small basic science niche and their goal is to try to get to know you as a person.
 
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