Residencies in the 5 states that require AOA

[patters1111]

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There are 5 states which require DOs to complete a AOA approved 😛 internship in order to practice in the state. From my understanding a DO can go through the allopathic match and then ask the AOA to approve the residency thus allowing you to practice in those 5 states. Is this correct?

I have heard (from my school) that it is hard to get the AOA to approve your residency if there are AOA programs around. Is this correct?

I would like to look at some programs in Florida which is one of the 5 states (I am not sure what the other states are). Can DOs go into residencies in Florida without 1st completing an AOA approved internship or do they have to get the AOA to approve the internship year for you to complete the rest of the residency? I am not sure how DOs in allopathic residencies are affected in these 5 states.

Thanks

 

[imajin78]

From my understanding you can do a residency wherever you want including the "5 states" but you won't be able to practice or do moonlighting in the "5 states"
As for the the AOA approving a allotpathic residency and giving you a AOA approval is very rare. I suggest either doing the AOA intership it is only 1 year, and some allopathic residency will allow it to count for PGY-1 position. Also if you are going into something PM&R, radiology, ER, anest. you need to do a prelim year any way so a rotating intership is a good way to kill to birds with one stone.

 

[hurl2002]

A friend of mine was looking at doing and MD peds residency in Florida. He talked to a couple of program directors who told him it was no problem to do a residency in FL without an AOA internship.

On the other hand in Michigan the MD programs will not even talk to you unless you have done an AOA approved internship.

Also if you are doing Emergency Medicine there are only 20 programs that require a prelim year and there are 104 that start in the PGY-1 year.

 

[patters1111]

So after the 1st year and you pass your step 3 boards you would be able to write prescriptions?

Thanks

 

[H&E]

Once licensed with a state (which requires passing all 3 parts of boards and coughing up the cash for license fees) you can moonlight and earn extra income above and beyond your residency salary. However, If you are a DO doing your residency in one of the 5 states and you did not do an AOA approved internship you cannot be licensed in that state and consequently cannot moonlight. Which brings up an interesting point. In the last issue of JAOA an article discussed how there is a shortfall AOA internship slots relative to number of graduates of DO schools. The numbers were something like 1800 spots vs. 2500 graduates. However all 1800 do not fill since many DO grads jump right into ACGME Residencies. My point is how can the 5 states requiring internship legally do this when theoretically there are not enough spots for all DO graduates to take an AOA internship. Essentially they are denying licensure on the basis of not doing an internship when this option is not available to all seekers?

 

[wsu]

H&E,

Actually, on the AOA website, they discuss the issue that you mentioned. The number of D.O. graduates increasing while AOA internships decling or staying the same.

On the website, they mention a Resolution that they have offered allowing AMA/AOA duall accredited status so long as you fulfill the prescribed requirements. There are essentially 5 or 6 of them.

The application form along with the requirements can also be downloaded and is very helpful.