Residency Interview Violations

[jonwill]

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For those of you who are new or have not yet had to deal with residency interviews, there are supposed strict rules that programs must follow. For instance, after interviews, programs are allowed to tell students where they will be ranking them. They are not allowed to ask students where they will be ranking the program, ask for a commitment to that particular program before the match, ask that a student accept the program and drop out of the match, etc. When a program is caught violating these rules, they are put on probation. From what I can figure, this doesn't mean much other than the program's name is put up on a website (AACPM I think) saying that they violated interview rules.

Students have always brought up the point that until there are greater penalties and restrictions put on programs that violate these rules, programs will continue to do so.

Here is the question: What penalties should be placed on residency programs that violate interview rules?

 

[doclm]

For those of you who are new or have not yet had to deal with residency interviews, there are supposed strict rules that programs must follow. For instance, after interviews, programs are allowed to tell students where they will be ranking them. They are not allowed to ask students where they will be ranking the program, ask for a commitment to that particular program before the match, ask that a student accept the program and drop out of the match, etc. When a program is caught violating these rules, they are put on probation. From what I can figure, this doesn't mean much other than the program's name is put up on a website (AACPM I think) saying that they violated interview rules.

Students have always brought up the point that until there are greater penalties and restrictions put on programs that violate these rules, programs will continue to do so.

Here is the question: What penalties should be placed on residency programs that violate interview rules?

Has there been many programs that have done this in the past??
I can understand where this would be unfair for the students interviewing at the program.

Is this nature of probation a common theme with certain residency programs??
I agree something like this should be done and have the interview committee meet with a few officials from AACPM. You would think that would deter this from happening again.

 

[krabmas]

Just like how punishment fit the crime in real life it depends on how badly they break the rules. Some just hint at wanting to know where you will rank them, others ask for contracts to be signed before Match.

Any real consiquence I can think of in the end hurts the students and current residents and not the program per se.

examples of consiquences:

1. they cannot participate in CRIPs (must have students fly to them or phone interviews...) but must participate in Match. As in Match only program. (in the end this hurts students who have to make another trip)

2. The program must go one year unfilled. (very severe obviously and would hurt the current residents by giving them more work to do)

3. the program must scamble the next year, no CRIPs no match. And they must wait until match is over to find a resident( think this might be the best yet)

4. anything that effects the amount of money a program gets would obviously only hurt the residents.

5. keeping probation but on all CASPR CRIPS paperwork or sites that list the programs a nice balck start would be next to the name. I think now the only place to see programs on probation is the actual probation list. This would make the probation more public, sort of putting directors morals out there.

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[krabmas]

COTH is the council of teaching hospitals. They regulate the residency match.

here are their rules copied from aacpm.

SELECTION PROCESS FOR RESIDENTS
Residency selection personnel shall:
· Abide by the official schedule printed in the CASPR application materials and shall not conduct
interviews for the purposes of resident selection prior to the first interview date or in conflict
with any of the interview dates published by the national resident matching service.
· Establish criteria for the evaluation of all applicants to its residency program.
· Not require that students provide materials that would duplicate those provided by the CASPR
service.
· Notify applicants well in advance of application deadlines of all requirements that shall be met in
order to be considered for the residency program.
· Provide a current residency program description that accurately reflects the clinical experiences
and benefits afforded the applicant, if selected.
· Charge an application fee to applicants for consideration to the program that appropriately covers
the expenses of the residency selection process without creating remaining funds that constitute a
profit to the program for use in other areas in the administration of the residency program.
· Not demand students participate in hospital visitations, pre-interviews or social events to be
considered for residency selection.
· Conduct residency interviews in a professional manner with consistent standards for all
applicants.
· Conduct promotional activities in a professional manner.
· Accept, for the purpose of documenting student academic records, only official transcripts and
test scores in the residency selection process, which come directly from the registrar's office of
the institutions the candidate attends or had attended or from other appropriate agencies.
· Understand that the selection form is confidential and is the final determinant for selection.
· Not accept an applicant who is under contract to another residency program or matching service
without a signed release from that residency program or matching service.
· Adhere to the notification date established by the national resident matching service.

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

For those of you who are new or have not yet had to deal with residency interviews, there are supposed strict rules that programs must follow. For instance, after interviews, programs are allowed to tell students where they will be ranking them. They are not allowed to ask students where they will be ranking the program, ask for a commitment to that particular program before the match, ask that a student accept the program and drop out of the match, etc. When a program is caught violating these rules, they are put on probation. From what I can figure, this doesn't mean much other than the program's name is put up on a website (AACPM I think) saying that they violated interview rules.

Students have always brought up the point that until there are greater penalties and restrictions put on programs that violate these rules, programs will continue to do so.

Here is the question: What penalties should be placed on residency programs that violate interview rules?

This is tough and I cannot honestly answer the question until I have been through the process.