retake DAT?

SimSeema,

I know what you are going through. Look at your situation this way...you are taking extra science courses which is a HUGE plus for starters. Get B's or Better in all of them and if I were you I would retake the DAT. You will do better on it the 2nd time trust me. I do not know anyone who has done worse. The first time is always the hardest because you really do not know what to expect. Do yourself the favor and retake it so that way you can sell yourself to the commitees next year by saying I have taken more Science classes and Worked at a dental office and I retook the DAT. They will really be impressed. GOOD LUCK! You will do Great !

 

Take it again! Look at what I am able to complish with new DAT scores even with a 2.7 cumulative and less than a 2.5 science undergrad GPAs! Be sure to add a little personal touch (phone calls, emails, meet them in person if possible) with your motivation, admissions personal really enjoys that!

 

simseema,
You are in a very sticky situation but with some planning you could make it work. Eventhough your biochem and microbio weren't as well as perhaps you wanted, considering you are a grad student and not an undergrad. If I were you, I would defenitely want to retake the DAT, your previous grades were average and combine them with your grad work, you are gonna have a tough time getting an interview. The DAT should be review for you so it shouldn't be too much of a challenge, and with new and improved scores you will become a competitive applicant. Also I was wondering that if you were a bio major, why didn't you already take biochem during undergrad? Most dental students I know actually did well in biochem, you just gotta work harder and then you will see the results you need. Good Luck on whatever you decide.

 

Simseema 17,
You are sort of between the rock and hard place on the DAT retake issue. Your scores fall within the averages of those who get accepted at many dental schools. On one hand, producing a new academic average of 20+ would obviously help your cause. However, showing no significant improvement or even worse on a retake would likely damage your case. I think you have do some soul searching. If you are willing to devote a good three months to nothing other than DAT prep then I say retake it. If you are burnt out on getting up for the DAT again, then I would advise you to go with the first score only. Good luck.

 

I took the DAT twice. The first time I had not had O Chem so I bombed that section. In addition I was one big overstimulated quivering bundel of nerves. The second time I had O Chem and I bought one of the review books (I can't remember which and I already donated them to AED). I got a 17 the first time and a 19 the second time. If nothing else it shows that I had enough dedication to put up the $$ twice.
End of story, I got into my top three choices DEC 1st. I will be at VCU and I think that anything you can do to improve your chances you should do. It is all worth it in the end, or the next begining, whatever.

 

Simseema17,

I really do not think that you are in a hard place! If you are in a hard place, then I was in a harder place! It's simple as this, listen:

If you want dental school REALLY bad, then just do what ever it take to make your application better!! You HAVE to have the confidence that you will do better on your next DAT. Without a doubt, I would retake it because I know that once I increase my scores the second time, then I will increase my chances of getting in!! NO "if"s or "but"s, just committ yourself to your DAT studies and get them 20s!!!

Check this out:

Your first time:

GPAs = greater than 3.0
DATs = 18/17

My first time:

GPAs = less than 2.7 cumulative/2.5 science!!!
DATs = 17/24 (first time) 20/23 (second time)
and 3 interviews thus far, some still might be coming!!!

I'm telling you, my new increased DAT scores really showed dental schools that I meant business inspite of my blemish undergraduate record!!

No more "I'll have to think about it" or "I'm at a hard place"...JUST tell yourself that you can do it and you WILL do it!!! Retake and DAT and get them 20s!!! Always do everything in your reach to improve your application! Don't even get in that frame of mind that you'll do worse the second time! That will only happen if you LET it happen!

Sounds like your current GPAs are in great status, improve your other application components!

I hope that my application situation demonstrated how increased DAT scores can get you further in the application process!

I bet you anything that you would have better chances receiving interview invites and acceptances with a new set of improved DAT scores along with your current new GPAs than just your current new GPAs alone for your next application cycle!

I personally would do ANYTHING to increase my chances of getting an acceptance and that included studying of the DAT for three months straight and over New Years Eve when all my friends are out drinking and celebrating!! Well, only thing I have left to say is, my hard work studying for the DATs paid off, in my opinion, your hard work will too if you so to apply it!!

 

Simseema 17!

You are going thru what I have been going through. My gpa is similar to yours. Probably .1 higher. My DAT is 19/18. I applied in 2000 and got only 1 interview from university of Pitt. And they rejected me. And at that time, I was working as a research associate at UCB, and I had also done 2 yrs of undergrad research. I was really PO after that, because I knew some people got worse score than mine got in. However, I still want to do it. So, I'm studying like crazy now for the DAT(since last oct). I also got 2 papers published last year (first author). I now plan of taking some graduate classes to improve my gpa and will retake the infamous DAT again this coming july hopefully. I just want to make sure that I will be in and I will do anything in my power to make it happen. What will you do if you won't get in next yr just because of your DAT? I definitely think that you should get a new score, show them that you want to be a dentist. Then, it will happen. Don't just let it go because of a simple test.
Best of luck
T

 

Simseema17,

I think it's really do-able! Here's what I like to further suggest:

First, if the application is available for you to complete online in the beginning June 2002, go ahead complete it and submit the darn thing, dental schools won't receive it until a month later or even longer (so probably in July or August 2002) anyways!

During all this time, you're studying for your second DAT which will be scheduled at the end of August 2002 (NOTE: bring your studying materials back to India with you, every hour of studying will help!!). Take the DAT at the end of August upon your return, you'll get your unofficial score sheet right there and then at the end of the exam that you can fax/scan/email to dental schools before they receive the official score sheet. (timing will be perfect, by the time you fax them your unofficial DAT score sheet, they probably just received your AADSAS application for fall 2003)

As far as you school's committee for letters of recommendation and how they want a copy of your new DAT scores prior to typing your letter, then give them a copy of your unofficial score sheet that you have in your possession! A health profession's committee should be able to use that unofficial score sheet to type you a letter, it's your scores that they want to see, not the official DAT score sheet.

Second, if dental schools receive your fall 2003 AADSAS application in August, THAT IS NOT LATE in the rolling admissions cycle process!! That is perfect timing, in my opinion!!! I know a lot of us on SDN will have different opinion about when to submit the AADSAS application, but August is not TOO late!! Our goal here is to be accepted, whether it's the first round, second round or even the thrid round of acceptances, WHO CARES!!! As long as we are accepted right?

Look at me for example! I submitted my AADSAS fairly late (others will call it extremely late) at the end of November 2001 and retook my DAT on JANUARY 2002 and I'm currently still in the game!!!!! All my interviews thus far has been or will be for a seat in the class and not for the waiting list!! I think that you'll be fine as far as rolling admissions goes if you submit your AADSAS in August 2002.

Remember, again, our goal is to get you in and accepted! If it takes you another 3 weeks to make you feel completely confident to earn them 20s on the DAT into September 2002, I would take that additional 3 weeks to study for it!! You can ALWAYS submit your AADSAS before your retake the DAT.

The main point here is not when you submit your application, but what you add to your application this second time around that makes you a more competitive applicant!

Your plan right now, finish AADSAS in June, take the DAT in August = PERFECT!!! Please be sure to dedicate your time and energy to the DAT! You HAVE to make this round of application absolutely PERFECT!!!! Unless you wouldn't mind going in for a third round!

 

YOU CAN DO IT!!!

 

Hey Simseema,

As it looks like everyone is saying, especially Yah-ZZZ, retake that DAT and ace it!!!!!!!!!!

Your scores on some of the sections are not so good, so you can definitely improve. I don't think India should get in the way... just do the topscore, and improve your science using the Kaplan Books (worked well for me), and if you want a smaller book, Barron's DAT prep book.

Good luck, and sorry to hear about your aunts passing away. Were they your masi's or bhua's?

Buckyball

 

simseema,

The TopScore PRO cd is made by ScholarWare. You can get it directly from the ScholarWare website.

The quickest way to get there is to go to: <a href="http://www.datreview.com" target="_blank">http://www.datreview.com</a>

Good luck with your studying! I'm taking the DAT on May 31 for the first time.