Retook the mcat and I did worse by a point, but my score distribution improved in 2 sections.

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Just making my point. Do research on the schools you are applying to.

Fair
Enough. At this point though I'm really tempted to just mass apply based off of msar data to max my chances though.
 
Fair
Enough. At this point though I'm really tempted to just mass apply based off of msar data to max my chances though.

if you have the money to do so....

but really not a great strategy even if you do. all those secondaries add up, you may get fatigued, and the quality could go down. Then you'll just be hurting your chances at schools you may have a legitimate shot at
 
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Enough. At this point though I'm really tempted to just mass apply based off of msar data to max my chances though.

I'll give it to you honestly. Your gpa is average at best. Your mcat is below the median for most schools. Unless you have some killer EC that we don't know about, you'd just be a run-of-the-mill applicant. You should be applying strategically and getting the scoop on the schools where you have the best chance at landing an interview. When those secondaries come, you'd want to put your best efforts at the schools you actually have a chance at.

What is your focus in medicine? rural? urban? research? Look at schools that fit why you want to be a physician.

Mass applying blindly to schools with low OOS% rates will not improve your chances. You also know that generally speaking, because you are OOS, you need higher stats than IS applicants to be looked at favorably in OOS schools?
 
Yea that's true. If I could apply to like 30-40 mds I have decent chances to and maximize my chances that'd be best. I probably wouldn't be able to complete 60-70 apps and if they don't even screen beforehand id just be wasting my time.

My plan: I am going to get a humanities recommendation letter so I can apply to places like Drexel and creighton and be taken seriously.

Make a giant list and repost and apply. I'm also working on my personal statement and people have pretty torn on whether it's good or not. I either hear its amazing and one of the best or I need to redo everything.

make sure to utilize the WAMC section when you do this!!
 
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If you want a chance at Creighton, continue #5 and #6 (hope you haven't quit) and maybe even pick up some new non-clinical volunteering.
 
As far as your application strategy goes a strategic approach is likely to be more fruitful (and less stressful) than a shotgun approach - take it from people who've gone through it. Also, you keep emphasizing gaining an MD acceptance. While you stand a fair chance at MD be aware that your odds definitely lean towards DO. So in making your strategy you need to decide what's most important - having 2 consonants after your name or becoming a physician.
 
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LSU-NO is a no because while they do accept OOS students, the spots are reserved for those with ties to the Gulf States. If you have to ask what the Gulf States are, you have no ties to the area. 🙂

Univ of Arkansas is **strong** ties to the state. I was born and raised <5 miles from the AR border but have absolutely no chance of an acceptance. I didn't even waste my money.
 
LSU-NO is a no because while they do accept OOS students, the spots are reserved for those with ties to the Gulf States. If you have to ask what the Gulf States are, you have no ties to the area. 🙂

Univ of Arkansas is **strong** ties to the state. I was born and raised <5 miles from the AR border but have absolutely no chance of an acceptance. I didn't even waste my money.

Fair enough. This is why i took university of Utah off. Is pretty much every state school this way or is there a list of schools like that?
 
Look at the MSAR OOS stats like everyone has been telling you and you will have your answer.
Even then, you have an uphill battle due to a sub-30 MCAT and CA resident. Many people have a saving grace with their state school(s) but CA isn't one of those states.
 
Even then, you have an uphill battle due to a sub-30 MCAT and CA resident. Many people have a saving grace with their state school(s) but CA isn't one of those states.

yea, CA med students get interviewed pretty much everywhere though. I just gotta apply to strategically. I got a question though, how could I found what schools take the best score from each sub section on the mcat? How common is that? because if schools do that, my score would be a 32.
 
yea, CA med students get interviewed pretty much everywhere though. I just gotta apply to strategically. I got a question though, how could I found what schools take the best score from each sub section on the mcat? How common is that? because if schools do that, my score would be a 32.

What does the bolded part mean? A lot of CA applicants receive interviews... because there are a ton of highly qualified CA applicants. But it's not like being a CA applicant gives you an advantage in receiving interview invites.

In terms of the highest sub-section thing, if the MSAR doesn't have info on that, then your best bet is checking individual school websites. I don't think it's a very common practice though.
 
Look at the three Virginia public schools...UVA, VCU, and EVMS. They all have close to 50% OOS numbers,
 
Look at the three Virginia public schools...UVA, VCU, and EVMS. They all have close to 50% OOS numbers,

They do however have a somewhat strong regional preference and VCU and EVMS (not sure about UVA) receive a higher portion of private funding than most state schools; hence the greater OOS numbers. Also, I believe a fair number of EVMS OOS-ers come from their SMP program.
 
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