This is a question for the SDN med student population. Are there any wicked smart people in your class? If so, what can they do? I'm just curious. I always love to hear about insanely intelligent people. I used to know a guy who could do logarithms of numbers like 7.234 in his head. This dude was doing calculus in 5th grade! Ridiculous man.
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my workout partner is pretty impressive, he is a ms2, he can bench 315, he gets mad hoes, he goes out to clubs during exam week, doest go to class, learns the stuff at home and aces the exams. he 's already been published in a medical journal and he has like 3 business projects going on.
i guess the lesson here is.. hang out with these types of people, seeing this guy, I have learned so much about time management and setting high goals that I am doing really well in school cuz of his advice and his habits. Hang out w smart cool people, they definetely rub off on u.
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i guess the lesson here is.. hang out with these types of people, seeing this guy, I have learned so much about time management and setting high goals that I am doing really well in school cuz of his advice and his habits. Hang out w smart cool people, they definetely rub off on u.
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I'm not a med student yet, but when I was in elementary school, I was in this experiment where they took 28 "highly gifted" (whatever that means -- there turned out to be a lot of duds) kids and put us in a special educational program for three years. I don't have any special talents, but a bunch of kids in the program did -- one kid was a ranked chess player when he was, like, 8. The same kid was doing optimization theory in the sixth grade. He was scary scary scary. There were a couple kids in there who went to college in their early or mid teens, and 2 who dropped out of school to pursue pretty successful performance careers, one in ballet, one as a pianist and violinist.
I, on the other hand, have done nothing.
I, on the other hand, have done nothing.
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You should be embarassed that you're such a loser. 😉 😛
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I think it's funny that people find bench pressing 315 impressive.
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yeah...but don't be deceived by the ones who like to ACT smart. you know who i'm talking about. the ones that ask questions that took them 3 hours to think of, the ones that finish exams in 20 minutes but end up just barely passing, and the ones that wear their scrubs and short white coat to cafes and sit down to read the NEJM (but they're really only looking at the ads).
ps - benching 315 is totally impressive...and smart.
ps - benching 315 is totally impressive...and smart.
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i went to hs with this girl who was a mathematical genius. Our teacher hated her....sometimes the teacher would work the problem for almout one hr and my classmate would say " Mrs. Karkut in the third line there is a mistake". Unfortunately we've lived in crazy counrty(Poland) which doesn't care much about smart people. this girl ended up in Italy working as a house keeper...and i had more luck to come here and study althoigh till this day i have barely some idea about math. Oh i also have a friend now who is always the best without even trying, he just knows everything...that is just not fair! But, oh well, we do what we CAN do😀
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Originally posted by Amy
You should be embarassed that you're such a loser. 😉 😛
Heh. Seriously. When I was in that program, I heard my mom talking on the phone about how I was a "gross underachiever" because I didn't speak any languages. I was eight. Eh, what can you do?
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I was in organic chemistry with a guy who had a photographic memory - it was severely unfair. The stuff it took me hours and hours to digest and remember he was reeling off after a couple of minutes. He went into dentistry as a I recall at an obscenely young age.
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Truly impressing is that our neighbor's kids all are potty-trained (fully) by the age of 13 months. Those of you who have kids will know how impressive (well, maybe not impressive, but DAMN cool nonetheless) this is.
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You know, I had no idea I was even supposed to learn that, until the neighbor kid (a year younger than me) told me she could tie hers. I was like, what's this? None of my shoes even had shoelaces. I went home and asked my brother if he knew how, and sure enough, he did. So I demanded that my dad teach me. It had truly never crossed anyone's mind to teach me how until then.
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Potty trained by 13 mos - wow
My two girls were done at about 26 mos. My son is 3 mos old now and I would love to know the secret for success at 13 mos!
Speaking of kids: My seven year old proclaimed at age four that inifinity was "just like zero" because you can never really get there. Just as you can always add something to make a number bigger, you can never quite get to zero when you subtract because there is always something there, like"air".
My two girls were done at about 26 mos. My son is 3 mos old now and I would love to know the secret for success at 13 mos!
Speaking of kids: My seven year old proclaimed at age four that inifinity was "just like zero" because you can never really get there. Just as you can always add something to make a number bigger, you can never quite get to zero when you subtract because there is always something there, like"air".
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Yeah, not to toot my own horn, but my friends used to say this about me. I got through high school and college without doing ****, kicked ass on the MCAT's, and rolled through much of anatomy. And then halfway through first year, everything just caught up with me. I had a hard time adjusting, just because everything came so easily to me, and I struggled for months trying to figure out why i wasn't doing so hot anymore, and coming to grips with having to study everyday, instead of just going to lecture. I guess i was probably depressed for a while. So i guess the moral is, don't envy the ridiculously smart people too much, because it catches up to 99% of people, as the learning curve gets steeper, whether it's in college, med school, residency, fellowship. Now that i'm back on track and studying my ass off everyday in order to do well, I think that dedication, accountability, focus, good time management and plain old hard work is much more valuable that being ridiculously smart.
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One of our classmates is a speed reader / photographic memory - type person. We used to study together and what took me 10 hours to get through and 2 weeks of review to completely understand, he'd be done with in 45 minutes and get it all on the first pass. I'd give him rides to the library and while waiting for me to finish studying, he'd go through, let's say, a 500 page cardiovascular physiology book and have the damn thing memorized -- amazed me every time.
My only consolation was that he has the type of personality that inherently pisses people off, including me (and I get along with everybody I meet), and somewhere along the way he'll push the envelope a little too far with the wrong person, inciting the wrath of the powers that be.
My only consolation was that he has the type of personality that inherently pisses people off, including me (and I get along with everybody I meet), and somewhere along the way he'll push the envelope a little too far with the wrong person, inciting the wrath of the powers that be.
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When I was in high school, I worked at a fast-food joint. There was a guy there that could multiply numbers in his head quicker than you could type it into a calculator. He would multiply 3 digit numbers by 3 digit numbers within a few seconds. We used to get the calculator and challenge him, and he was never wrong. It was like something out of Rain Man.
On the other hand, this guy didn't have much common sense. When the boss would tell him to drain the oil out of the fryers, he would forget that you were supposed to put the bucket under the pipe BEFORE you opened the valve. He was notorious for emptying oil all over the floor.
On the other hand, this guy didn't have much common sense. When the boss would tell him to drain the oil out of the fryers, he would forget that you were supposed to put the bucket under the pipe BEFORE you opened the valve. He was notorious for emptying oil all over the floor.
For "smart" people, some of you are pretty dumb. If you don't allow society to understand something differently or something unknown before, you are no genius. This idea also has to be abstract and it fundeamently changes the way we all see reality. Examples-Feinman, Newton, Darwin, Einstein, Da Vinchi, Mozart. There has only been one Physician genuis, Frued. If you do not fit into a person who has or will accomplish something to this effect you are just smart. Let me tell you there are lots of smart people and no real way to distinguish them. Personally most med students don't impress me. They can memorize and are decent at synthesizing info. If you put them up against my friend who is a Phd at Cal tech in theoretical Physics their most of their brains can't compete. It is easier to teach a homeless person to pass medical school than it would be to try to get him/her to understand a difficult concept in theoretical physics. I see lots of dumb people doing phenomenally in Med school. It is almost like it is less likely you are really intelligent if you do really well in medical school. How can one be creative and abstract and be able to study hours on end remembering facts. It is very mentally restictive. Anyone who says they don't have to study is lying, medicine is very fact based. Some may have to study less or synthesize info more quickly but while these are aspects of intelligence, they are not what is at the crux of what pushes our society forward. Abstract problem solving is the rate limiting intellect, it dictates how fast society is pushed forward.
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Ugh... the misspelling of da Vinci doesn't bother me, but get Feynman right!!! Sheesh. I really hope you're using the nick QED as in "quod erat demonstrandum" instead of "Quantum Electrodynamics," for which Feynman earned the Nobel.
Yeah, spelling is a really important skill. Spelling Bee champions are the intelligent people in our society, even though there is no human eho can out spell a computer. I will go back to nursery school and work on it. Or, maybe if I am going to write on the internet I do not go back and proof read since that would take too much time. What does the spelling have to do with the content. Did my misspellings affect your ability to understand?
Most doctors possess above average intelligence--they aren't geniuses by any means. Success in medical school, according to physicians and med students with whom I've spoken, depends on diligence, perseverance, and hard work, not genius (although, geniuses would certainly have a less painful experience in med school--lucky bastards).
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Can we maybe go back to talking about the guy whose friend keeps getting the "mad hoes"?
But *seriously smart people* can also be found by googling for the homepage for Rhodes scholars. Help. And what about that 12-year-old med student at Loyola? Makes my life feel like a complete waste of time.
But *seriously smart people* can also be found by googling for the homepage for Rhodes scholars. Help. And what about that 12-year-old med student at Loyola? Makes my life feel like a complete waste of time.
12-year old med student at Loyola! You gotta be freakin kidding me! What the hell was the AdCom thinking? No patient wants to be treated by a freakin teenager. That kid is going to be miserable in medical school.
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he's at U of Chicago, not loyola. loyola is where he did his undergrad.
he's doing the ph.d component of his MSTP first, so i don't think it will be that big of a deal.
he's doing the ph.d component of his MSTP first, so i don't think it will be that big of a deal.
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i have had to break into my house three times in the past 30 or so days because i forgot my keys. it took me until the third try to hide a spare key. i am passing medical school. 😎
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My mother had me and both my brothers trained before we could walk -- but it was more an achievement on her part than on ours
. As soon as each baby was old enough to support its head, she would hold it on the potty every morning for a while (this was before any of us were sitting up, and we were all small enough to fall in if not held up), not taking us off until something came out. Eventually, we all got the idea of what we were supposed to do, and we each had a different way of telling her to take us to do our business, so we were pretty much trained before we could talk. She also would let each of us lay on a plastic mat for a little bit without the diaper, to get used to that -- obviously, that worked better before the crawling stage, but she said that once we found out what life was like without the diaper, it became motivation to keep it off and control ourselves. Guess who's going to be potty training my kids? 😀- Joined
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Wow, from what highly respected textbook did you pull that out of? "The rate at which society is pushed forward" is determined by many things, not just intellect. I guess you think that Sulpha Drugs or Penicillin, meds that fundamentally changed society, were the products of creative and ingenious intellect?
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I used to take lunch money from people like you. How's your love life?
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at 13 months my son was pooping and peeing on the potty but the day care woudlnt' start potty training him and since i wasn't at home all day i coudlnt' do it so he's still not potty trained and he's 22 months. the sitter is going to start when he turns 2. he doe sless on the potty now than he did when he was 13 months. we missed the window! so i thinkt hat it can be done if you are at home or have a sitter or a nanny that is willing to do it.
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Yeah, me too. A 315 1-rep max on the bench really isn't that impressive. I benched 405 for 5 reps when I was in my prime. God knows how many times I could have repped 315...probably 15-20.
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yup, same here
[being brag]Back in my days at Nam, I ate four dozen eggs
Ev'ry morning to help me get large
And now that I'm grown I eat five dozen eggs
So I'm roughly the size of a barge!
[end brag]
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The stress and pressure of exams. At such a young age too. How long before they are cramming for the pregnancy test. Stop the madness.
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The 315 lb 1 rep max is nothing impressive. I'm not in my prime and can still rep it 12 times on a good day. That being said, I think at Penn there is only 1 other student that could possibly hit 315. Is all that means is they have other talents and other focuses...
I think the vast majority in my class are smart (they can't do logs in their head though). I think you'll find that the people who are only book smart (logs in head) are by in large boring. It's the individuals who combine brains with interesting experience and personality that impress. Anyway, my 2 cents.
Regards to all.
I think the vast majority in my class are smart (they can't do logs in their head though). I think you'll find that the people who are only book smart (logs in head) are by in large boring. It's the individuals who combine brains with interesting experience and personality that impress. Anyway, my 2 cents.
Regards to all.
