Rightous Rage

[Steve Boyd]

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In reviewing a case involving a murder, I came across a Psychiatric Report(summary version) that referred to the reason for the act as being "RighteousRage" however there is little in the way of context associated with it. Ihaven't been successful in locating a specific definition although the similarphrase 'Self-Rightous Rage" does come up. Would anyone have a definitionof the former or could the former and the latter be the same?

Thank you.

Steve

 

[zenman]

I think it refers to things happening down in the Southern bible belt.

 

[whopper]

Can you provide a link to the article?

There has been an argument that sometimes a person's rage that caused them to cause an act of violent was justifiable in the minds of some people or at least draw sympathy. For example, if a father finds a child molester anally raping his 3 year old daughter, and he kills the guy with a shotgun during the act, a mental health expert could use that to reduce the defendant's punishment during the sentencing phase though it'd likely wouldn't allow one to use it as an NGRI defense.

Only reason why I say "likely" is because I've seen judges, lawyers, and expert witnesses sometimes not use the law the way it's supposed to be used. I know, for example, a rapist in a psychiatric long-term hospital that is not dangerous due to mental illness and therefore, per the law, needs to be discharged, and if he commits another dangerous act, needs to be put in prison, but the judge just keeps him in the hospital despite the hospital's efforts to get this addressed appropriately.

 

[TexasPhysician]

Can you provide a link to the article?

There has been an argument that sometimes a person's rage that caused them to cause an act of violent was justifiable in the minds of some people or at least draw sympathy. For example, if a father finds a child molester anally raping his 3 year old daughter, and he kills the guy with a shotgun during the act, a mental health expert could use that to reduce the defendant's punishment during the sentencing phase though it'd likely wouldn't allow one to use it as an NGRI defense.

Only reason why I say "likely" is because I've seen judges, lawyers, and expert witnesses sometimes not use the law the way it's supposed to be used. I know, for example, a rapist in a psychiatric long-term hospital that is not dangerous due to mental illness and therefore, per the law, needs to be discharged, and if he commits another dangerous act, needs to be put in prison, but the judge just keeps him in the hospital despite the hospital's efforts to get this addressed appropriately.

In Texas: No one would prosecute you for killing a person molesting your child. You are more likely to get a parade named after you.

 

[whopper]

And I wouldn't exactly find such an act wrong.

A judge could literally just say something to the effect of "time served" depending on the parameters of the state. Further in several states, people attacking non-welcome people in self-defense (or defense of friends or family) while on property they own offers several legal protections.

But let's assume the act was in a hotel? Now there's no home-defense. Some states offer hardly any protections at all for shooting someone even in self-defense.

 

[Mattchiavelli]

"Righteous Rage" sounds an awful like a Paladin feat/talent

 

[Apollyon]

"Righteous Rage" sounds an awful like a Paladin feat/talent

Your salvation and redemption will come from conviction with vengeance, even as you find cleansing when you use your blessed aim with zeal and vigor to charge into thorns but, by showing fanaticism and concentration, you may find sanctuary. Meditation and prayer might help you resist fire, resist cold, and resist lightning, along with sacrifice, and your blessed hammer can unleash a holy bolt, holy fire, holy shock, holy freeze, and the fist of the heavens. If you smite with your holy shield, you may get conversion, but may ultimately end up with defiance.

(Either you totally get this, or you think I'm some sort of schizophrenic.)

 

[Apollyon]

And there's a lawyer whose name I know that is "Steve Boyd" - but I don't think that he would be simple enough to use his own name if looking for medical advice.

 

[whopper]

"Righteous Rage" sounds an awful like a Paladin feat/talent

In D&D 4E, not Pathfinder.

Ah boy, I remember my Paladin in 4E falling down a pit in full armor. If you ask me, Paladins in 4E blow. They're supposed to be tanks, but IMHO they're more like that kid in A Christmas Story wearing too many coats. They'll all armored up but now they can't move for squat, and the second they fall down, they're screwed, then on top of that they really don't fight as well as a fighter anyway. Why not just go fighter? Now that's a tank with a mean gun vs a tank with a flaccid one.

In first edition AD&D Paladins fought as well as fighters but also had all those holy powers. Power imbalance? Maybe, but you had to give 10% of your money away to the church and forever be humble. Kinda balanced it out IMHO. Man have they gone limp and that was the class I always wanted to play the most. I actually kinda liked playing the noble hero.

Pathfinder, they're kinda wimpy too IMHO.

Elmo the NPC fighter I was controlling as the DM cut off the arm of a guy he was interrogating with his battle-axe. Then when he had the bad guys put in the stocks, and relieved himself on them, and then went to the barkeep for a pint, no one could say he couldn't do that. Hey fighters are better in the current D&D or Pathfinder and at least you still get your freak on. I felt like I was playing a guy who lost his frontal cortex and having fun at it (and yes that's the way the adventure was written by Gygax, with Elmo having to be played being a drunkard scoundrel, but one dedicated to fighting bad guys).