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EctopicFetus said:
IMO the best bet is to use the dorms.. they are cheap pretty new (2 yrs old) and relatively spacious. I would do whatever it is you have to do early because they fill up quickly.

http://66.99.255.20/housing/

The Woodlands is also right next to campus but the units there are old and IMO kinda nasty. Some of your classmates who couldnt get into student housing are likely there.

www.woodlandsongreenbay.com

Believe me the pics there look better than it really is. The place is kinda ghetto. and from all accounts their management office is beyond terrible. If you arent gonna do the dorms try to find one of the other places in the area even though it will require a drive and the woodlands doesnt. Of course thats if the dorms arent for you.

If you have more questions contact the school they can help you with your choices in the Area. Here is the file they have on their site...

http://66.99.255.20/housing/pdfs/aprtsArea.pdf

Good luck to you all.
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Is the Woodlands that bad??? I'm mainly concerned about the proximaty to the school. And thats the closest one right? the dorms are expensive! hmmm....

I'll go check it out in about a week. Are there any other apts that you know within walking distance? I'm just trying to avoid having to drive, especially in those cold snowy winters. =(
 
oh btw...thanks for all the help Ectopic! =)
 
NO other place is within walking distance except the Woodlands and the dorms. I can say that I never lived in the Dorms (as I am married) but good friends who lived there told me rent was like 550 or so and that included the net, cable and electric. Did the $$$ increase? Lumaya all I can say is talk to some students who currently live there and MAKE SURE YOU GET A LOOK AT A COUPLE OF UNITS. Some of them are in terrible shape.

Also, per the President of the School the people who own to woodlands were at least considering applying to use it as low-income housing. The school then considered buying the land because they dont want low income housing next to the campus.

All I can say is DO YOUR RESEARCH.... but housing is something that will pass if it sucks. My motto: "Keep your eye on the prize!"

Lastly, I am truly humbled by the response on this site. You guys are all welcome and all I can say is when you guys make it through go back on this site and offer your insights both good and bad. This is the greatest service we can offer those who follow us. Teach them to not make the same mistakes that you did and how to succeed in this program and in their medical careers.

Lastly, be careful who you take advice from (including me), do your own due diligence. These things are anonymous and all sorts of BS can get spread. The rumor of doing great as an AP then going into M2 directly is still around. I have no idea how but this is complete BS.

As always please contact with questions..

FYI I have no idea when acceptances to the AP go out but I know people who found out like 1-2 days prior to the start of the program.
 
Just cause I was curious.... I guess the dorms for double occupancy is 750 per month for 10 months. Or if you use the dorms for the whole year you would be looking at like 625 per month (or 1875 per qtr----> 1875/3). The dorms are newer and cleaner.

The woodlands doesnt list price but I doubt it is much cheaper than the 625 per month, and it doesnt include the net or electricity. Dont forget to factor in these costs. The woodlands requires a 1 yr lease IIRC. Finally, a scary subject but something to consider. If you fail out of the AP program after 2 qtrs the school will let you leave and not owe anything onyour housing. In the woodlands...they hold your feet to the fire (at least they did prior to the dorms opening) and they might have changed their policy to entice CMSers to go there.

I am no expert by any means as my knowledge is 2nd hand.I never lived in the Woodlands or the Dorms.. I hope this helps. Good luck.
 
i just called over there about how exactly the committee takes the April 2005 MCAT into account.

She said that they'll first make a decision based on all the information they currently have (i.e. transcripts, previous MCAT scores, resume, etc). If the committee kinda likes what the see, they can (1) accept you right off or (2) put the application aside for the April 2005 MCAT to be report.

Here is what really pleased me though:
If the committee does not like what they see in the application, they will put it in a pseudo-rejection pile! What that means is that the lady will not automatically send off the rejection (doesn't apply to those whose have not taken the april mcat ). She'll wait for you to report the April 2005 MCAT and resubmit the (already-reviewed application + new MCAT) to the committee. TAfter that, all your life-lines are exhuasted. If they like, then they do and if they don't there is always next year.

I wanted to share this because I thought others might be concerned (like me) about not getting a fair chance (because either the application was sent very late in the process and/or he/she believes the new MCAT might truly represent their potential.

This is such a relief because I kinda wanted to know now where I stand with these master's programs and didn't want to wait for such a long time to hear back from the committee.

Hope this helps someone!
 
Sorry if this is a repeat from earlier threads I went through them all and didn't get a grasp on a few things, if anyone could help me I would be very grateful. This is in regards to the 1 Year masters in applied physiology:

- How difficult is the program to get in to, and if people dont mind who have gotten into the program sharing their stats. If you REALLY didnt mind sharing them on the thread so everyone else and people in the future could see, but if not if you could pm them to me thank you so much. Or just in general what is required to gain acceptance to this masters program?

-Is there a type of conditional acceptance to students in this masters program to The medical school where as you maintain a certain gpa (ie-3.5) to automatically be accepted (as a first year, or anything for that matter) into the medical school.
and if anyone knows of a post bac program that guarantees acceptance into a joining medical school if certains minimums are kept that information would be worth gold =).

-What is the matriculation rate for students in the program to medical schools in the United states and specifically to the associated medical school in chicago.

Thank you all very much for all of your help, and I hope all goes well in the world of applications 😀
 
Nooro said:
Sorry if this is a repeat from earlier threads I went through them all and didn't get a grasp on a few things, if anyone could help me I would be very grateful. This is in regards to the 1 Year masters in applied physiology:

- How difficult is the program to get in to, and if people dont mind who have gotten into the program sharing their stats. If you REALLY didnt mind sharing them on the thread so everyone else and people in the future could see, but if not if you could pm them to me thank you so much. Or just in general what is required to gain acceptance to this masters program?

-Is there a type of conditional acceptance to students in this masters program to The medical school where as you maintain a certain gpa (ie-3.5) to automatically be accepted (as a first year, or anything for that matter) into the medical school.
and if anyone knows of a post bac program that guarantees acceptance into a joining medical school if certains minimums are kept that information would be worth gold =).

-What is the matriculation rate for students in the program to medical schools in the United states and specifically to the associated medical school in chicago.

Thank you all very much for all of your help, and I hope all goes well in the world of applications 😀
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I applied, but haven't gotten in yet. I will probably be going to Georgetown's SMP, but I'm still trying to decide. In regards to your questions, I don't know what their averages are for acceptance to the AP program, but I have heard that most (if not all) AP students get an interview at the medical school and that if you get a 3.0+ in the program, it is very likely that you will be accepted into the first year class for the next year as a MSIa, which means you don't have to retake the classes you've already taken and done well in. However, if you get less than 3.0, then you are pretty much rejected automatically, no matter how good your interview went.
 
Hey guys... I just found out I got into CMS AP program and am really excited. I am from TX and going to Chicago June 6 to look for places to live.... and have a few questions.....

I just found out I got a spot at the Woodlands - but they want the nonrefundable deposit before I can get up there to look at it..... . I have seen it online... but didn't know how updated the pics were. What do you suggest? Are the woodlands the place to live? Is it nice and safe? The CMS site also has a link with about 10 sugguestions on http://66.99.255.20/housing/pdfs/aprtsArea.pdf in areas such as Waukegan, Gurnee, and Lake Bluff. I don't know anything about these areas or complexes. I was going to do some research online before I went up there... but didn't know if you had any suggestions. Also- is this list pretty updated ? Do you know of any other complexes around the area that are not on this list? I really have no idea where to start and if you have ANY ideas... that would be awesome! Also-do you think I should jump on this opening at the Woodlands... or hold out until I get up there? Someone suggested Northern Crossing was nice and Highland Park area too....Thanks for all your advice! -amy
 
Hey Guys,

I would have to agree that Phase I of the Woodlands is gross. I know people who lived there and I didn't like it. However, I do live in Phase II and I love it! It's newer, cleaner, brighter, has a garbage disposable, looks homeyier (i know that's not even a word!) and doesn't smell. I particularly love my apt, as I live on the 3rd floor, so I have vaulted ceilings and a fireplace (gas operated). Personally my apt did look like the one in the pictures on the website. So, keep that in mind if you want to live in the Woodlands, I'd request for an apt in Buildings 3505, 3506, or 3507. If they say they'll give you an apt in one of those buildings you better make sure it's stated in the lease contract. That way if they don't give you the apt you want, the contract would not be valid i guess? I know someone who was promised a certain apt. last year, but Woodlands gave them a different one. I'm not sure is she ever complained or got compensated for it. Oh yeah, the manager is a biatch and I personally think the office helpers are rude. I'm still hoping the school goes through with the plan to buy the school over. They had appraisers and inspectors out here a few months ago, and also installed additional smoke detectors in all bedrooms. The rent is pretty cheap for continuing residents, my apt is $1062 (2 br, 2ba... i paid $531) if I resign my lease by this Weds. I haven't received my acceptance letter yet, but going to take the gamble since I did make the GPA cutoff. If I wanted to wait for my letter and resign the lease by June 30, the rent would be $1094. I think they are going to tell you rent is normally $1200+ and will give you a $100 discount to get you to sign the lease. If you guys know anyone who's planning to leave and don't mind not getting fresh paint and putting out some money to wash the carpets, find someone's apt to take over the lease. Hey, for some odd reason I don't get accepted, anyone want to take over my lease? 😕

The dorms are nice, with ELEVATORS (great for moving!). It's huge and clean, but not very homey like, and the kitchen is tiny for the one brs. I wouldn't be able to do the dorms since I love to cook and bake, thus I need a big kitchen. The drawback is closet parking space is not very close at all and some rooms don't get a lot of natural sunlight. The walking distance between Woodlands and school vs. dorms and school is practically the same.

The other apt complex I'd suggest is Northern Crossing. The apts are nice and a little bit more expensive. One thing I love about it is the huge dining area and washer and dryer included in the unit! Units on the 2nd floor comes with a fireplace as well. Dont' let the "gated" complex fool you. It's not an iron gate as I had imagined. It's some puny cross bar gate that can be manually lifted. The drawback is the driving during snowdays. You have to give yourself more time to defrost the car and brush off the snow. Also a friend of mine told me the rent will not include water anymore, so they will be charged per unit of water they use in addition to the rent.

Highland park is pretty far from North Chicago ( a good 20 mins at least!).

That being said I too will be needing a roommate next year, but I'll post something on the school's messageboards after I resign my lease and etc. Sorry guys i'm Female and would be looking for a female roommate.

elcapeetan--if you are reading this, did you ever get my PM response? I sent one the two days ago, but SDN has not record of me sending anything.
 
Just wanted to share my apartment hunting experience. I was checking out the places in the area last week and was put on a waiting list for woodlands. When they called today to ask if I still wanted the place I've already singned for another one so I can't comment on those. From the school's list, I checked out the closest apartments - Forest Pointe and Deer Valley in Lake Bluff and Northern Crossing in Waukegan. Forest Pointe and Deer Valley are basically exactly the same and very near each other and what's different is that Deer Valley does not offer specials and thus is more expensive. (By about $100) But, the Forest Pointe apts are actually pretty nice (but small) and I would totally go for them if I haven't seen Northern Crossing. It was by far the best and still the same distance from school. The kitchens and bathrooms are exceptionally large. The apartments are nice and worth checking out. I would also suggest calling all the places and just talking to the management. They can tell you all that's included and all the prices right off so that you can check off what you can't or don't want to afford.

Good Luck and pm me if you have any more Q's. 🙂

aeg1494 said:
Hey guys... I just found out I got into CMS AP program and am really excited. I am from TX and going to Chicago June 6 to look for places to live.... and have a few questions.....

I just found out I got a spot at the Woodlands - but they want the nonrefundable deposit before I can get up there to look at it..... . I have seen it online... but didn't know how updated the pics were. What do you suggest? Are the woodlands the place to live? Is it nice and safe? The CMS site also has a link with about 10 sugguestions on http://66.99.255.20/housing/pdfs/aprtsArea.pdf in areas such as Waukegan, Gurnee, and Lake Bluff. I don't know anything about these areas or complexes. I was going to do some research online before I went up there... but didn't know if you had any suggestions. Also- is this list pretty updated ? Do you know of any other complexes around the area that are not on this list? I really have no idea where to start and if you have ANY ideas... that would be awesome! Also-do you think I should jump on this opening at the Woodlands... or hold out until I get up there? Someone suggested Northern Crossing was nice and Highland Park area too....Thanks for all your advice! -amy
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Hey guys,

Just found out I got in to the AP for Fall. However it was through email from Caryn Wickersheim. The email said that the acceptance packet is being mailed out. Did anyone else get an email? I hope it's not a spoof (not that anyone could've gotten my personal info that was included in the email) but I'm so happy that I got in considering my undergrad GPA that I'm almost in denial that it's not true. Anyone else receive an email as the first notification of acceptance?
 
Congrats! I got accepted a monnth ago the same way and the packet came about a week later. It is official. Go celebrate this weekend. You are in!
 
Congrats everyone! I'll be seeing you guys in fall!

I just signed a lease for the Woodlands for a Phase 2 apt(the nicer ones) that I have personally checked out myself. Its really nice and right next to the laundry room on the first floor. Now I just need a roommate!

I'm 23,F/NS who's really easy going and friendly. Looking for similar. PM me for more info and tell me about you!
 
I received an email wednesday, i got the black folder packet today.

Can't wait to meet all of you and get the party started.
 
im in kind of a complicated situation. i was accepted to RFU's AP program, but am also waitlisted at 1 med school. the AP program starts late July and the med school starts late Aug. im from Boston and have never been to Chicago but think i should probably visit to find a place to live. the thing is, i don't want to sign a lease in the event i get off the waitlist... anyone have any suggestions?
 
For those that are accepted into the RFU AP, when do we start submitting our AMCAS app to RFUMS? Does anyone know what is historically done? Also when do the interviews start for AP students?

Look forward to seeing all of you in the program.
 
Did anyone have to go thru an interview for the AP?
 
lumaya said:
Did anyone have to go thru an interview for the AP?
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I meant the interview for matriculating at RFUMS medical school in 2006. I assume they would have to interview us just like other medical school applicants.

There isn't an interview for matriculating in the AP program.
 
APs interview on 2 separate days with other APs. It is a low stress affair. It only makes a difference if you are a freak of nature.

Questions? PM me
 
EctopicFetus said:
APs interview on 2 separate days with other APs. It is a low stress affair. It only makes a difference if you are a freak of nature.

Questions? PM me
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What kind of questions should we expect? Are they similar to the med school interviews? Are we interviewed individually or in groups?
 
Inidividual interviews and the questions totally depend on your interviewer. I know someone who was asked to describe how they would fix the healthcare system in Cali (this student was from Cali), she did a terrible job (by her own admission) and she got in (grades etc were good).

A good friend of mine was asked to describe a genetic disease (we just finished the medical genetics course) and he screwed up and he got in.

My interviews (u usually do 2 different ones) were totally casual, a lot of tell me about you, then get sidetracked about something about you etc. No hard Qs for me.

I hope this is helpful. You really shouldnt stress about the interviews. You SHOULD stress about getting your 3.0.
 
hey everyone,

my good friend just got into rosalind frankin after doing the ap program. (unofficially that is; he got his final transcript and his gpa was above 3.0) he said essentially nothing else matters as long as you get a 3.0 (and dont piss off the faculty). his mcats (taken twice) were 20 and 22. its a sure-fire way to prove yourself - so work hard!
 
As an AP you automatically get scheduled for an interview, whether you submitted your apps or not. They will tell you u need to submit one via amcas by Nov. 1st, and base your interview on your AP application.

This year the interviews were on Fridays at 1, starting mid august extending to mid september. Interview dates were based on alphabetical order by last name. so bring your suits/clothes. although i know of a few girls who just wore a skirt or nice top (totally laid back compared to normal med school interview outfits). the guys in my group all had nice suits.

I had two interviews, both on same day. One was a student the other a prof. the student was just "how's life? school? classes?" and more chit chat and question/answer session. the second one, I was actually asked 2 ethical questions on stem cell research and blood transfusions for a jehovah's witness, which surprised me, but I was prepared for it and think i did well (okay, okay,.... i peeked at his evaluations of me while was chatting with him). Then we talked about hobbies, if i ever considered the caribbean, and basically ended the interview by telling me that i'm fine as long as i get a 3.0.

Hope this helps! relax....... it's not as bad, i'd say spend the time studying. Supposedly I had one of the harder interviews (ethical questions!) but it was laid back compared to other med school interviews I've been too.
 
Hi, This is good news !! Ha, I used to be stressed about if I would get into the AP program. Now I am stressed about doing well in the program. Anyways, I called the housing office and there are > 90 people on the waitlist, so offcampus housing might be the only real option if i don't want to commute from home.

Orchid 209 said:
As an AP you automatically get scheduled for an interview, whether you submitted your apps or not. They must tell you u need to submit one via amcas by Nov. 1st, and base your interview on your AP application.

This year the interviews were on Fridays at 1, starting mid august extending to mid september. Interview dates were based on alphabetical order based on last name. so bring your suits/clothes. although i know of a few girls who just wore a skirt or nice top (totally laid back compared to normal med school interview outfits). the guys in my group all had nice suits.

I had two interviews, both on same day. One was a student the other a prof. the student was just "how's life? school? classes?" and more chit chat and question/answer session. the second one, I was actually asked 2 ethical questions on stem cell research and blood transfusions for a jehovah's witness, which surprised me, but I was prepared for it and think i did well (okay, okay,.... i peeked at his evaluations of me while was chatting with him). Then we talked about hobbies, if i ever considered the caribbean, and basically ended the interview by telling me that i'm fine as long as i get a 3.0.

Hope this helps! relax....... it's not as bad, i'd say spend the time studying. Supposedly I had one of the harder interviews (ethical questions!) but it was laid back compared to other med school interviews I've been too.
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just got an email today saying its not starting until 7/27 now. dont know exact details yet though.
 
hi, i don't mean to be rude, but do you know your friend's gpa. the reason being that i applied to the program and i want to know that i have some chance, even a tiny bit, of getting in. thanks.
chitown82 said:
hey everyone,

my good friend just got into rosalind frankin after doing the ap program. (unofficially that is; he got his final transcript and his gpa was above 3.0) he said essentially nothing else matters as long as you get a 3.0 (and dont piss off the faculty). his mcats (taken twice) were 20 and 22. its a sure-fire way to prove yourself - so work hard!
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luvklub said:
hi, i don't mean to be rude, but do you know your friend's gpa. the reason being that i applied to the program and i want to know that i have some chance, even a tiny bit, of getting in. thanks.
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did you apply for 2005 and still havent heard? cause i am also still waiting to here. I had a 3.4
 
Sorry for the stupid question, but is AP the masters in physiology program? If so, do you just apply to the normal one, or is there a special one that you have to apply to that is geared towards students getting into the medical school?
 
My question was what was the AP program, too? Is this the post-bacc program? And is anybody affiliated with CAHMCP with this program?
 
PleaseMiami said:
Sorry for the stupid question, but is AP the masters in physiology program? If so, do you just apply to the normal one, or is there a special one that you have to apply to that is geared towards students getting into the medical school?
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yes, there is only one program and that is the one that is supposed to help. one year masters in applied physio. check out the threads about RFU there is a lot of info there
 
chitown82 said:
when does the current class find out if they get in or not?
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Would u guys be willing to discuss this program even more? I was wondering if students in the post bac program get automatic bid into the medical school. Thanks so much!!
 
nene12 said:
Would u guys be willing to discuss this program even more? I was wondering if students in the post bac program get automatic bid into the medical school. Thanks so much!!
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To be honest, I don't think you will find any SMP/Post bacc that will officially guarantee admissions into their medical school program. Many will boast high/very high acceptances upon "successful completion" but that is intrinsic on so many different factors. Just because an applicant has a high GPA/MCAT, there are other factors such as CV, LOR and the interviews that will have complications.

Most of the best programs in my opinion are the ones where the faculty/administration form the program much like a 1 year/2 year interview. When everyone knows you, you have the grades from the program to show that you can handle the rigors of medical school, and they can see you have the motivation to excel on that level, then I think that is the best bet that you will have to entering medical school. I just find these programs more of a rarity but more so of schools that consider these programs as a cash cow for students to pay huge sums of money to take a limited medical school courseload and try to gain consideration this way.
 
nene12 said:
Would u guys be willing to discuss this program even more? I was wondering if students in the post bac program get automatic bid into the medical school. Thanks so much!!
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nene, the RF AP program doesn't exist anymore, unfortunately. It has been replace with the RFU BMS program which DOES NOT guarantee anything except for an interview. Admission into the medical school is not guaranteed, they just give you an opportunity to prove yourself by taking med classes alongside med students.
 
jslo85 said:
To be honest, I don't think you will find any SMP/Post bacc that will officially guarantee admissions into their medical school program. Many will boast high/very high acceptances upon "successful completion" but that is intrinsic on so many different factors. Just because an applicant has a high GPA/MCAT, there are other factors such as CV, LOR and the interviews that will have complications.

Most of the best programs in my opinion are the ones where the faculty/administration form the program much like a 1 year/2 year interview. When everyone knows you, you have the grades from the program to show that you can handle the rigors of medical school, and they can see you have the motivation to excel on that level, then I think that is the best bet that you will have to entering medical school. I just find these programs more of a rarity but more so of schools that consider these programs as a cash cow for students to pay huge sums of money to take a limited medical school courseload and try to gain consideration this way.
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apparently, tourocom-ny guarantees admission with a 3.5 in the program and some other criteria
 
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