Roseman (OOS) vs. UMKC (OOS)

[B.O.Y.14]

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School 1: Roseman

• OOS

Pros:

• 3-year program (saves one year of tuition and living costs).
• Block curriculum (focuses on one subject at a time).
• Pass/no pass grading system (less stress from GPA pressure).
• Opportunity to experience two different locations (Utah for the first year, Nevada for the last two). Rosemans Ortho program is in Nevada
• Very welcoming students

Cons:

• Only three years to prepare for residency applications and boards
• Does Pass/No Pass affect residency decisions
• Moving between Utah and Nevada could be logistically challenging.

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School 2: UMKC

• OOS

Pros:

• 4-year program (more time to prepare for board exams and residency applications).
• Traditional grading system (letter grades could potentially stand out on residency applications).
• Located in Kansas City, a larger metropolitan area with diverse patient demographics.
• Established reputation as a dental school, but I am not sure if it is viewed as "stronger" than Roseman.

Cons:

• 6-7 courses at a time might feel overwhelming.
• An extra year to graduate with the same degree (will graduate a year later)
• Further from home compared to Utah/Nevada.

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Summary:
Both schools cost around $400K total for tuition and living expenses. I am a California resident interested in specializing in orthodontics after dental school.

I like Roseman's 3-year program and block curriculum, but I worry it may feel rushed, and I’m unsure if its reputation will support my goal of matching into an orthodontics residency. On the other hand, UMKC’s 4-year program offers more time to prepare for residency, but the traditional grading system and multi-course load might feel more stressful.

I’d love to hear thoughts about how the reputation of these schools might impact my chances for an orthodontics residency and any insights into clinical opportunities or other factors I should consider.

 

[hockey2001]

Check both schools residency acceptance rates- 4 year program w ranking system should be better for specialities. Roseman is known to be a general dentist school

 

[OncePreDent]

Check both schools residency acceptance rates- 4 year program w ranking system should be better for specialities. Roseman is known to be a general dentist school

I completely agree with this post. I am a Roseman student, and we typically have difficulty getting people into ortho. As you know, Roseman's ortho program is in Nevada and has 10 open spots. They normally only accept 1-2 people per year from Roseman. This cycle 9-10 applied and one 1 was accepted. In the last cycle, 18 applied to ortho, and only 2 were accepted into Roseman's ortho program. Roseman has a more difficult time compared to other programs in getting into ortho residency. Also, something to consider is Roseman's ortho residency will cost you more than +$400k (last year they increased ortho tuition by over 10%), plus +$400k of dental school, and you are easily looking at $800k + interest in student debt for the combo. Most people who get into ortho residency from Roseman get into either Roseman or GSO, which is about it. So total you would be looking at around $800k+ for both dental and ortho realistically (if you went to Roseman).

And don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Roseman; it is an outstanding dental school. I can't think of a better program if you want to become a general dentist. However, it isn't a good program for helping you get accepted into an affordable orthodontic residency (or even an ortho residency at all). This is something that I wish I had known before coming here. Roseman is genuinely a general dentist's dream school; specialists, maybe not so much...